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#1 raider4life

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Posted 29 April 2012 - 05:06 PM

Seeing how this past season has gone, it is pretty obvious that some significant changes will be coming to this Canucks team. Though they played well in the regular season, they played significantly lower than they're capable of in the playoffs, which is when it really counts. Some are calling for a major rebuild, I say some tweaking, our window of opportunity for the Cup is still open while the Sedin's are playing well on a consistent basis. I've got some ideas and suggestions that I think could take this team back to where they were last year, but with one extra win.

So looking at this roster now, I see some areas we need to improve in:
  • Secondary Goal scoring - While we were among the NHL leaders in goals for, we can't be relying on the Sedin twins, and Burrows for all our offense. While the Americans (Kesler, Higgins, and Booth) played pretty well our second and third lines need to score some more.
  • Size - Our roster is seriously depleted when it comes to size, we have 4 players over 6'3" (Kassian, Alberts, Edler, and Salo) and only one player who is over 220 lbs (Malhotra). 3 of the 5 players (Kassian, Alberts and Edler) will hit constantly each game they play, while 2 of those 3 players (Alberts and Kassian) see the press box more often than not. While we have other players that still hit, it's not usually on a consistent basis.
  • Toughness - Outside of perhaps Dale Weise, I wouldn't say we have that one true fighter that can bring the crowd to its feet and bring up the energy level on the team since the tragic loss of Rypien.
  • Defense - Though we have some pretty good defensemen, considering we were fourth in the league with goals against, I see a need for improvement. Much of the reason for this great statistic is due to Canucks' goaltending, both Luongo and Schneider were outstanding throughout the season. This team needs a solid defensive body that can play at least 75+ games without being injured on in the press box.
  • Leadership - Some nights it seems like the Canucks have no real focus and this stems from a lack of leadership. I don't completely disagree with Henrik being the captain, but I believe someone else should be, Henrik is far too quiet. I think someone such as Kesler, Bieksa, or Hamhuis should be made captain, these guys play like leaders on the ice and lead by examples, working hard every shift they're playing.
  • Diving - This has got to go, while it is part of the game, it brings down the fans and makes the team look bad. We want this team to be attractive to free agents and we should want to play with integrity and honor.
  • Canadians - Our team only possesses about 9 Canadian regulars. Canadians play well, work hard, and know the game. I'm not saying other nations can't play, but I think we should want to promote the Canadian game some more, I feel like it's a major key to doing well.
Players that Need to Improve:
  • Kesler - It's evident that he needs to improve and the good part is, he acknowledges it. I see a big, comeback season coming up for him after a pretty significant hip injury and now an apparent shoulder injury. I believe this past season will be a low-point in his career and he'll continue to develop into the player he was a few seasons ago. Though some believe he should be pushed to the third line or traded, I think this is just a down year and this is really how he plays.
  • Booth - Though it was his first season playing here and he may not have been used to playing in a hockey-crazed city like this, I expected more. I also see a big season out of him, he needs to score more and use his body some more against opponents.
  • Kassian - It was quite apparent he didn't play the way anyone expected him to and considering the hype hockey networks put around him. However, he is only 21 and still has many more years to come in which he can mature and become a better rounded player. I believe if we give him another year or two he can become a solid power forward in the NHL for years to come.
Roster Moves:

Trades:

VAN - Roberto Luongo + 2nd Round Pick 2012 + 3rd Round Pick 2013
FOR
TBL - Ryan Malone + 1st Round Pick 2012

Reason: It appears Luongo played his final game as a Canuck, and while it saddens me that he may be on the move, I think it's best for him and the team. The fans never seemed to be able to really appreciate what a fantastic goalie he was and I believe he'll be able to shine in another city. As well, his wife is from the Florida area so the move would work. Tampa Bay was a league worse in goals against so its apparent that Luongo's services would be much appreciated. Tampa Bay would also get some draft picks which would be later in the round. For Vancouver, they would receive a player that adds size, toughness, and secondary scoring, exactly what the Canucks need. As well, the Canucks get a 10th overall pick in which they can add a great, young player.
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VAN - Manny Malhotra
FOR
NYI - 2nd Round Pick 2012

Reason: Though I love Malhotra and his leadership, his cap hit is too high for what he provides. The Canucks receive a pretty good pick in which they can pick up a good player, also replaces the pick in the TBL trade, and they also get some much needed cap space. For the Islanders they receive a great faceoff man, that can help take the younger guys under his wing, the team can also take on his space hit.
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VAN - Keith Ballard + Andrew Alberts + 1st Round Pick 2013
FOR
PHO - Oliver Ekman-Larsson

Reason: Provides some more needed cap space to the Canucks while puts the Coyotes up to the cap floor. Oliver Ekman-Larsson is a very talented player with a lot of potential, he can fit in on almost any defensive pairing. Keith Ballard will hopefully be able to revitalize his career in the desert while Alberts will likely see some more ice time. The 1st rounder would be the extra piece to get the Yotes to accept the deal, would likely be a late round pick in which they can get some good, young talent.
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Resignings:

Samuel Pahlsson: Two year, 3.0M contract, cap hit of 1.5M.

Reason: He played well, but not to the level he's capable of. Give him a contract for a couple more years to see how he does, the cap hit isn't too bad and its much better than the one he has now.
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Byron Bitz: One year, 750K.

Reason: In the few games he played this year, he played great. I'd want to see another, healthy season out of him before he gets some years added to his contract. He hit and added some points in the 10 games this season, he's a decent 3rd liner, great 4th liner to have on our team.
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Aaron Volpatti: One year, 700K.

Reason: I love this guy, he's a good BC boy who unfortunately was injured for much of the season. He brings energy and a hard-working attitude. See how he fares in a healthy season.
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Sami Salo: One year, 1.0M.

Reason: Salo was arguably the most consistent Canuck defender, I think at his age a 1 year, 1 million won't hurt the team and in fact could turn out to be a steal. If he's willing to come back for another year, it won't be about the money so that's good and he can help to mentor the rookies moving through the system.
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Marc-Andre Gragnani: Two years, 1.5M contract, cap hit of 750K.

Reason: Gragnani didn't get significant playing time so it's hard to determine what his value truly is, sign him for a cap-friendly contract and see what sort of player he turns out to be, add more years and dollars if he can make an impact on this team.
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Cory Schneider: Two years, 6.5M contract, cap hit of 3.25M.

Reason: This is arguably the biggest signing of the summer for the Canucks, with Luongo likely gone, he is the future of the team. Schneider is still relatively unproven, so I give him a contract that he'll be happy with and then in the future you can extend him, you can't be handcuffed with a Luongo-type contract again. Schneider in the games he's played in, he is calm and can control the game. He has had some great games, standing on his head and keeping the team in the game (ex. past playoff series vs. LA Kings).
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Eddie Lack: Two years, 2.5M contract, cap hit of 1.25M.

Reason: Lack seems like the next Schneider, once again, keep the years of his contract low to see his development and then add more on later. If Schneider for some reason turns out to be a dud, you have a great goaltender waiting in the wings. If Schneider plays the way everyone expects him to be able to, you can trade Lack for some good pieces down the road. I see another season in Chicago to get in some seasoning and perhaps a few call-ups to get in some NHL experience, then in following year he can be a full-time backup to Schneider.
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Steven Reinprecht: One year, 750K.
Ryan Parent: Two years, 2.0M contract, cap hit of 1.0M.
Matt Climie: Two years, 1.5M contract, cap hit of 750K.
Nolan Baumgartner: One year, 550K.

Reason: Another two years for Parent and Climie will develop them into the players they were once and are expected to be. For Reinprecht and Baumgartner, these guys are here to help mentor and show the ways of hockey to the younger guys, they'll be key to the development of some of the rookies.
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Gone:

Mason Raymond

Reason: Has played no where near what he's capable of, needs a change of scenery, also adds some cap space to the team.
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Andrew Ebbett
Aaron Rome
Victor Oreskovich
Steve Pinizzotto
Mike Duco
Mark Mancari
Dale Weise

Reason: For various reasons, most haven't played like they are capable of and just need another team to find to get more minutes and continue on with they're careers.
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UFA Signings:

Brandon Prust: Two years, 1.7M contract, cap hit of 850K.

Reason: This guy helps with many of the roster needs of the Canucks. He adds some toughness and he can even chip in with some offense. He would replace Weise, because he is much better and he's that perfect enforcer that we're in desperate need of.
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Martin Biron: One year, 800K.

Reason: Biron would provide some solid back-up goaltending and can help mentor Schneider to become a better goalie and person. If he doesn't play well, Lack can easily step in and provide his services.
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Scott Hannan: Two years, 2.0M contract, cap hit of 1.0M.

Reason: A guy right from here that can provide some good defensive play and bit of offense here and there. Wouldn't take a pay increase so that he can play in his hometown. Can slot in to the 3rd pairing alongside Tanev or Gragnani.
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PA Parentau: Three years, 5.25M contract, cap hit of 1.75M.

Reason: Had an outstanding offensive year, deserves a pay increase, can slot into any three of the tops lines.
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Lineup:

Sedin - Sedin - Malone/Burrows
Booth - Kesler - Higgins/Burrows/Parentau
Hansen - Pahlsson - Higgins/Burrows/Parentau/Malone
Prust - Lapierre - Kassian/Bitz

Bieksa - Hamhuis
Ekman-Larsson - Edler
Salo/Hannan - Tanev/Gragnani


Schneider
Biron
Lack

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Let me know what you think for this 2012-2013 roster idea!

Edited by raider4life, 29 April 2012 - 05:13 PM.


#2 Danthecanucksfan

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Posted 29 April 2012 - 05:16 PM

I don't like parenteu or Malone but the rest is Likeable

Edited by Danthecanucksfan, 29 April 2012 - 05:21 PM.


#3 Bilbro Baggins

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Posted 29 April 2012 - 05:18 PM

No way Phoenix does that trade. And I think a 3rd is more fair for Manny.

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Posted 29 April 2012 - 05:21 PM

As if Phoenix trades OEL for that package.

Here's my idea:

Trade Luongo, Ballard, the rights to Raymond along with our second rounder this year to Chicago for Patrick Kane, Jeremy Morin and Corey Crawford

Trade Manny Malhotra and Corey Crawford to Edmonton for Ryan Jones, Curtis Hamilton and a 2nd

Trade Jones to Columbus for their 2nd

Trade David Booth, and Vancouver's, Columbus's, and Edmonton's 2nd to Nashville for Weber (this one might not happen)

Trade Kevin Bieksa (if he waives his no trade) to Toronto for Tyler Biggs, rights to Jonas Gustavvson, and their 2nd

Sign Zach Parise and Ryan Suter each to 6 year, $42,000,000 contracts ($7,000,000 a year), call up Jordan Schroeder, Kevin Connauton, and Nicklas Jensen

Canucks 2012-13 line up:

Daniel - Henrik - Burrows
Parise - Kesler - Kane
Kassian - Schroeder - Jensen (our 'kid' line)
Higgins - Lapierre - Hansen

Edler - Weber
Hamhuis - Suter
Tanev - Connauton

Schneider
Lack

**And then I wake up.

Edited by Steven Stamkos' Mullet, 29 April 2012 - 05:39 PM.

In my eyes drouin is overrated he can score in the qmjhl but did nothing in last two gold medal games that canada lost. Fox will be better pro than him talk to me in five yrs

Gaudreau has one NHL goal whereas all your "prized" prospects have none.

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Posted 29 April 2012 - 05:22 PM

lol the trade with tampa and coyotes aren't happenning. No way coyotes getting rid of OEL. OEL to phoenix is like Edler to the canucks.

Edited by hockeyfan90, 29 April 2012 - 05:24 PM.


#6 ThaManbeast

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Posted 29 April 2012 - 05:27 PM

I bet that was fun. Never going to actually happen though.

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Posted 29 April 2012 - 05:32 PM

Why would NYI trade a 2nd for Manny? Phoenix will not do that in this life time.

Although the Malone trade is very reasonable, I don't want a 32 year old coming here.
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Posted 29 April 2012 - 05:35 PM

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Resignings:

Samuel Pahlsson: Two year, 3.0M contract, cap hit of 1.5M.

Reason: He played well, but not to the level he's capable of. Give him a contract for a couple more years to see how he does, the cap hit isn't too bad and its much better than the one he has now.
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Gillis will not waste even his own time let alone the time of Pahlsson's agent by making such a low offer.

Expect Pahlsson to sign elsewhere for at least $2.5 million.

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Posted 29 April 2012 - 05:40 PM

Being 20 years old, OEL is top 10 in icetime in the playoffs. In the regular season, he scored more goals than Keith Yandle. Just sayin'.

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Posted 29 April 2012 - 05:41 PM

I realize now that the deals with NYI and PHO are quite far-fetched. So what if instead of a 2nd rounder for Malhotra, we took the highest pick they'd offer which would likely be a 4th or 5th rounder. And as for the PHO trade what if we scrapped that and traded Ballard + Alberts + 1st Rounder 2013 for Jared Cowen? Would those be more realistic? As well, I forgot to add that I want to Shane O'Brien, he's another tough guy that has improved his game considerably.

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Posted 29 April 2012 - 05:42 PM

Manny will not get a 2nd. A 3rd at best for a team who wants a reliable 4th liner and faceoff specialist. You are also underrating the value of Ekman-Larsson in Phoenix, he is basically untouchable. An overpaid bottom pairing d-man with top 4 potential, a 6th/7th d-man in Alberts, and a low 1st will not do the job.

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Posted 29 April 2012 - 06:08 PM

TO TORONTO
-Roberto Luongo
TO VANCOUVER
-1st round pick (5th overall) *Draft Dumba*

TO PITTSBURG
Alex Edler
TO VANCOUVER
Jordan Staal

move Kesler to wing
Sign Ryan Suter at all costs!!!

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My Custom Lineup

FORWARDS
Daniel Sedin ($6.100m) / Henrik Sedin ($6.100m) / Alexandre Burrows ($2.000m)
David Booth ($4.250m) / Jordan Staal ($4.000m) / Ryan Kesler ($5.000m)
Chris Higgins ($1.900m) / Jordan Schroeder ($1.025m) / Jannik Hansen ($1.350m)
Manny Malhotra ($2.500m) / Maxim Lapierre ($1.000m) / Zack Kassian ($0.870m)
Dale Weise ($0.666m) /
DEFENSEMEN
Ryan Suter ($6.300m) / Dan Hamhuis ($4.500m)
Kevin Bieksa ($4.600m) / Matt Dumba ($0.900m)
Chris Tanev ($0.900m) / Sami Salo ($1.500m)
Andrew Alberts ($1.225m) /
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Cory Schneider ($3.500m)
Eddie Lack ($1.100m)
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SALARY CAP: $64,300,000; CAP PAYROLL: $61,285,500; BONUSES: $125,000
CAP SPACE (22-man roster): $3,014,500

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Posted 29 April 2012 - 06:11 PM

I know manny hasnt played well this season but you want leadership and trade manny?

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Posted 29 April 2012 - 06:28 PM

As if Phoenix trades OEL for that package.

Here's my idea:

Trade Luongo, Ballard, the rights to Raymond along with our second rounder this year to Chicago for Patrick Kane, Jeremy Morin and Corey Crawford

Trade Manny Malhotra and Corey Crawford to Edmonton for Ryan Jones, Curtis Hamilton and a 2nd

Trade Jones to Columbus for their 2nd

Trade David Booth, and Vancouver's, Columbus's, and Edmonton's 2nd to Nashville for Weber (this one might not happen)

Trade Kevin Bieksa (if he waives his no trade) to Toronto for Tyler Biggs, rights to Jonas Gustavvson, and their 2nd

Sign Zach Parise and Ryan Suter each to 6 year, $42,000,000 contracts ($7,000,000 a year), call up Jordan Schroeder, Kevin Connauton, and Nicklas Jensen

Canucks 2012-13 line up:

Daniel - Henrik - Burrows
Parise - Kesler - Kane
Kassian - Schroeder - Jensen (our 'kid' line)
Higgins - Lapierre - Hansen

Edler - Weber
Hamhuis - Suter
Tanev - Connauton

Schneider
Lack

**And then I wake up.


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Posted 29 April 2012 - 06:37 PM

All just annoying to me.
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Posted 29 April 2012 - 07:46 PM

I hope Gillis does some serious 'retooling' to this team, we could use it if we want to win the cup.

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Posted 29 April 2012 - 08:14 PM

As if Phoenix trades OEL for that package.

Here's my idea:

Trade Luongo, Ballard, the rights to Raymond along with our second rounder this year to Chicago for Patrick Kane, Jeremy Morin and Corey Crawford

Trade Manny Malhotra and Corey Crawford to Edmonton for Ryan Jones, Curtis Hamilton and a 2nd

Trade Jones to Columbus for their 2nd

Trade David Booth, and Vancouver's, Columbus's, and Edmonton's 2nd to Nashville for Weber (this one might not happen)

Trade Kevin Bieksa (if he waives his no trade) to Toronto for Tyler Biggs, rights to Jonas Gustavvson, and their 2nd

Sign Zach Parise and Ryan Suter each to 6 year, $42,000,000 contracts ($7,000,000 a year), call up Jordan Schroeder, Kevin Connauton, and Nicklas Jensen

Canucks 2012-13 line up:

Daniel - Henrik - Burrows
Parise - Kesler - Kane
Kassian - Schroeder - Jensen (our 'kid' line)
Higgins - Lapierre - Hansen

Edler - Weber
Hamhuis - Suter
Tanev - Connauton

Schneider
Lack

**And then I wake up.


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Posted 29 April 2012 - 08:15 PM

Seeing how this past season has gone, it is pretty obvious that some significant changes will be coming to this Canucks team. Though they played well in the regular season, they played significantly lower than they're capable of in the playoffs, which is when it really counts. Some are calling for a major rebuild, I say some tweaking, our window of opportunity for the Cup is still open while the Sedin's are playing well on a consistent basis. I've got some ideas and suggestions that I think could take this team back to where they were last year, but with one extra win.

So looking at this roster now, I see some areas we need to improve in:

  • Secondary Goal scoring - While we were among the NHL leaders in goals for, we can't be relying on the Sedin twins, and Burrows for all our offense. While the Americans (Kesler, Higgins, and Booth) played pretty well our second and third lines need to score some more.
  • Size - Our roster is seriously depleted when it comes to size, we have 4 players over 6'3" (Kassian, Alberts, Edler, and Salo) and only one player who is over 220 lbs (Malhotra). 3 of the 5 players (Kassian, Alberts and Edler) will hit constantly each game they play, while 2 of those 3 players (Alberts and Kassian) see the press box more often than not. While we have other players that still hit, it's not usually on a consistent basis.
  • Toughness - Outside of perhaps Dale Weise, I wouldn't say we have that one true fighter that can bring the crowd to its feet and bring up the energy level on the team since the tragic loss of Rypien.
  • Defense - Though we have some pretty good defensemen, considering we were fourth in the league with goals against, I see a need for improvement. Much of the reason for this great statistic is due to Canucks' goaltending, both Luongo and Schneider were outstanding throughout the season. This team needs a solid defensive body that can play at least 75+ games without being injured on in the press box.
  • Leadership - Some nights it seems like the Canucks have no real focus and this stems from a lack of leadership. I don't completely disagree with Henrik being the captain, but I believe someone else should be, Henrik is far too quiet. I think someone such as Kesler, Bieksa, or Hamhuis should be made captain, these guys play like leaders on the ice and lead by examples, working hard every shift they're playing.
  • Diving - This has got to go, while it is part of the game, it brings down the fans and makes the team look bad. We want this team to be attractive to free agents and we should want to play with integrity and honor.
  • Canadians - Our team only possesses about 9 Canadian regulars. Canadians play well, work hard, and know the game. I'm not saying other nations can't play, but I think we should want to promote the Canadian game some more, I feel like it's a major key to doing well.
Players that Need to Improve:
  • Kesler - It's evident that he needs to improve and the good part is, he acknowledges it. I see a big, comeback season coming up for him after a pretty significant hip injury and now an apparent shoulder injury. I believe this past season will be a low-point in his career and he'll continue to develop into the player he was a few seasons ago. Though some believe he should be pushed to the third line or traded, I think this is just a down year and this is really how he plays.
  • Booth - Though it was his first season playing here and he may not have been used to playing in a hockey-crazed city like this, I expected more. I also see a big season out of him, he needs to score more and use his body some more against opponents.
  • Kassian - It was quite apparent he didn't play the way anyone expected him to and considering the hype hockey networks put around him. However, he is only 21 and still has many more years to come in which he can mature and become a better rounded player. I believe if we give him another year or two he can become a solid power forward in the NHL for years to come.
Roster Moves:

Trades:

VAN - Roberto Luongo + 2nd Round Pick 2012 + 3rd Round Pick 2013
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TBL - Ryan Malone + 1st Round Pick 2012

Reason: It appears Luongo played his final game as a Canuck, and while it saddens me that he may be on the move, I think it's best for him and the team. The fans never seemed to be able to really appreciate what a fantastic goalie he was and I believe he'll be able to shine in another city. As well, his wife is from the Florida area so the move would work. Tampa Bay was a league worse in goals against so its apparent that Luongo's services would be much appreciated. Tampa Bay would also get some draft picks which would be later in the round. For Vancouver, they would receive a player that adds size, toughness, and secondary scoring, exactly what the Canucks need. As well, the Canucks get a 10th overall pick in which they can add a great, young player.
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VAN - Manny Malhotra
FOR
NYI - 2nd Round Pick 2012

Reason: Though I love Malhotra and his leadership, his cap hit is too high for what he provides. The Canucks receive a pretty good pick in which they can pick up a good player, also replaces the pick in the TBL trade, and they also get some much needed cap space. For the Islanders they receive a great faceoff man, that can help take the younger guys under his wing, the team can also take on his space hit.
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VAN - Keith Ballard + Andrew Alberts + 1st Round Pick 2013
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PHO - Oliver Ekman-Larsson

Reason: Provides some more needed cap space to the Canucks while puts the Coyotes up to the cap floor. Oliver Ekman-Larsson is a very talented player with a lot of potential, he can fit in on almost any defensive pairing. Keith Ballard will hopefully be able to revitalize his career in the desert while Alberts will likely see some more ice time. The 1st rounder would be the extra piece to get the Yotes to accept the deal, would likely be a late round pick in which they can get some good, young talent.
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Resignings:

Samuel Pahlsson: Two year, 3.0M contract, cap hit of 1.5M.

Reason: He played well, but not to the level he's capable of. Give him a contract for a couple more years to see how he does, the cap hit isn't too bad and its much better than the one he has now.
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Byron Bitz: One year, 750K.

Reason: In the few games he played this year, he played great. I'd want to see another, healthy season out of him before he gets some years added to his contract. He hit and added some points in the 10 games this season, he's a decent 3rd liner, great 4th liner to have on our team.
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Aaron Volpatti: One year, 700K.

Reason: I love this guy, he's a good BC boy who unfortunately was injured for much of the season. He brings energy and a hard-working attitude. See how he fares in a healthy season.
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Sami Salo: One year, 1.0M.

Reason: Salo was arguably the most consistent Canuck defender, I think at his age a 1 year, 1 million won't hurt the team and in fact could turn out to be a steal. If he's willing to come back for another year, it won't be about the money so that's good and he can help to mentor the rookies moving through the system.
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Marc-Andre Gragnani: Two years, 1.5M contract, cap hit of 750K.

Reason: Gragnani didn't get significant playing time so it's hard to determine what his value truly is, sign him for a cap-friendly contract and see what sort of player he turns out to be, add more years and dollars if he can make an impact on this team.
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Cory Schneider: Two years, 6.5M contract, cap hit of 3.25M.

Reason: This is arguably the biggest signing of the summer for the Canucks, with Luongo likely gone, he is the future of the team. Schneider is still relatively unproven, so I give him a contract that he'll be happy with and then in the future you can extend him, you can't be handcuffed with a Luongo-type contract again. Schneider in the games he's played in, he is calm and can control the game. He has had some great games, standing on his head and keeping the team in the game (ex. past playoff series vs. LA Kings).
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Eddie Lack: Two years, 2.5M contract, cap hit of 1.25M.

Reason: Lack seems like the next Schneider, once again, keep the years of his contract low to see his development and then add more on later. If Schneider for some reason turns out to be a dud, you have a great goaltender waiting in the wings. If Schneider plays the way everyone expects him to be able to, you can trade Lack for some good pieces down the road. I see another season in Chicago to get in some seasoning and perhaps a few call-ups to get in some NHL experience, then in following year he can be a full-time backup to Schneider.
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Steven Reinprecht: One year, 750K.
Ryan Parent: Two years, 2.0M contract, cap hit of 1.0M.
Matt Climie: Two years, 1.5M contract, cap hit of 750K.
Nolan Baumgartner: One year, 550K.

Reason: Another two years for Parent and Climie will develop them into the players they were once and are expected to be. For Reinprecht and Baumgartner, these guys are here to help mentor and show the ways of hockey to the younger guys, they'll be key to the development of some of the rookies.
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Gone:

Mason Raymond

Reason: Has played no where near what he's capable of, needs a change of scenery, also adds some cap space to the team.
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Andrew Ebbett
Aaron Rome
Victor Oreskovich
Steve Pinizzotto
Mike Duco
Mark Mancari
Dale Weise

Reason: For various reasons, most haven't played like they are capable of and just need another team to find to get more minutes and continue on with they're careers.
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UFA Signings:

Brandon Prust: Two years, 1.7M contract, cap hit of 850K.

Reason: This guy helps with many of the roster needs of the Canucks. He adds some toughness and he can even chip in with some offense. He would replace Weise, because he is much better and he's that perfect enforcer that we're in desperate need of.
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Martin Biron: One year, 800K.

Reason: Biron would provide some solid back-up goaltending and can help mentor Schneider to become a better goalie and person. If he doesn't play well, Lack can easily step in and provide his services.
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Scott Hannan: Two years, 2.0M contract, cap hit of 1.0M.

Reason: A guy right from here that can provide some good defensive play and bit of offense here and there. Wouldn't take a pay increase so that he can play in his hometown. Can slot in to the 3rd pairing alongside Tanev or Gragnani.
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PA Parentau: Three years, 5.25M contract, cap hit of 1.75M.

Reason: Had an outstanding offensive year, deserves a pay increase, can slot into any three of the tops lines.
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Lineup:

Sedin - Sedin - Malone/Burrows
Booth - Kesler - Higgins/Burrows/Parentau
Hansen - Pahlsson - Higgins/Burrows/Parentau/Malone
Prust - Lapierre - Kassian/Bitz

Bieksa - Hamhuis
Ekman-Larsson - Edler
Salo/Hannan - Tanev/Gragnani


Schneider
Biron
Lack

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Posted 29 April 2012 - 08:23 PM

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Posted 29 April 2012 - 08:31 PM

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Posted 29 April 2012 - 08:53 PM

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Posted 29 April 2012 - 11:23 PM

Roberto Luongo + Jordan Schroeder + 2nd rnd pic (2012 or 2013) to Tampa Bay for Ted Purcell + 1st rnd pic (2012)
David Booth + 1st rnd pic (from Tampa) to Nashville for Shea Weber s rights (if they can t sign him)
Aggressively seek to sign Parise, Suter and Prust (if MG spent his pennies wisely it could happen).
As it is salary average that counts toward the cap, properly structured contracts could make it happen.

In addition lose Pahlsson, Raymond, Salo, Rome, Ebbett and Volpatti

Re sign Schneider, Bitz and Weise.

In the end the team looks something like this:

D.Sedin - H.Sedin - A.Burrows
Z.Parise - R.Kesler - T.Purcell
C.Higgins - M.LaPierre - J.Hansen
B.Prust - M.Malhotra - Z.Kassian
B.Bitz, D.Weise

R.Suter - S.Weber
A.Edler - K.Bieksa
D.Hamhuis - C.Tanev
K.Ballard

C.Schneider
E.Lack

I know this will never happen, but as I said previously, if MG were to time it right and put a logical offer on the table, it could hypethetically work.

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Posted 29 April 2012 - 11:55 PM

Love how many people think we're going to get Weber, Parise, Suter, and Malone. All over the offseason. As if we'd pick up that many top end players with what we have to offer.

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Posted 30 April 2012 - 12:12 AM

Seeing how this past season has gone, it is pretty obvious that some significant changes will be coming to this Canucks team. Though they played well in the regular season, they played significantly lower than they're capable of in the playoffs, which is when it really counts. Some are calling for a major rebuild, I say some tweaking, our window of opportunity for the Cup is still open while the Sedin's are playing well on a consistent basis. I've got some ideas and suggestions that I think could take this team back to where they were last year, but with one extra win.

So looking at this roster now, I see some areas we need to improve in:

  • Secondary Goal scoring - While we were among the NHL leaders in goals for, we can't be relying on the Sedin twins, and Burrows for all our offense. While the Americans (Kesler, Higgins, and Booth) played pretty well our second and third lines need to score some more.
  • Size - Our roster is seriously depleted when it comes to size, we have 4 players over 6'3" (Kassian, Alberts, Edler, and Salo) and only one player who is over 220 lbs (Malhotra). 3 of the 5 players (Kassian, Alberts and Edler) will hit constantly each game they play, while 2 of those 3 players (Alberts and Kassian) see the press box more often than not. While we have other players that still hit, it's not usually on a consistent basis.
  • Toughness - Outside of perhaps Dale Weise, I wouldn't say we have that one true fighter that can bring the crowd to its feet and bring up the energy level on the team since the tragic loss of Rypien.
  • Defense - Though we have some pretty good defensemen, considering we were fourth in the league with goals against, I see a need for improvement. Much of the reason for this great statistic is due to Canucks' goaltending, both Luongo and Schneider were outstanding throughout the season. This team needs a solid defensive body that can play at least 75+ games without being injured on in the press box.
  • Leadership - Some nights it seems like the Canucks have no real focus and this stems from a lack of leadership. I don't completely disagree with Henrik being the captain, but I believe someone else should be, Henrik is far too quiet. I think someone such as Kesler, Bieksa, or Hamhuis should be made captain, these guys play like leaders on the ice and lead by examples, working hard every shift they're playing.
  • Diving - This has got to go, while it is part of the game, it brings down the fans and makes the team look bad. We want this team to be attractive to free agents and we should want to play with integrity and honor.
  • Canadians - Our team only possesses about 9 Canadian regulars. Canadians play well, work hard, and know the game. I'm not saying other nations can't play, but I think we should want to promote the Canadian game some more, I feel like it's a major key to doing well.
Players that Need to Improve:
  • Kesler - It's evident that he needs to improve and the good part is, he acknowledges it. I see a big, comeback season coming up for him after a pretty significant hip injury and now an apparent shoulder injury. I believe this past season will be a low-point in his career and he'll continue to develop into the player he was a few seasons ago. Though some believe he should be pushed to the third line or traded, I think this is just a down year and this is really how he plays.
  • Booth - Though it was his first season playing here and he may not have been used to playing in a hockey-crazed city like this, I expected more. I also see a big season out of him, he needs to score more and use his body some more against opponents.
  • Kassian - It was quite apparent he didn't play the way anyone expected him to and considering the hype hockey networks put around him. However, he is only 21 and still has many more years to come in which he can mature and become a better rounded player. I believe if we give him another year or two he can become a solid power forward in the NHL for years to come.
Roster Moves:

Trades:

VAN - Roberto Luongo + 2nd Round Pick 2012 + 3rd Round Pick 2013
FOR
TBL - Ryan Malone + 1st Round Pick 2012

Reason: It appears Luongo played his final game as a Canuck, and while it saddens me that he may be on the move, I think it's best for him and the team. The fans never seemed to be able to really appreciate what a fantastic goalie he was and I believe he'll be able to shine in another city. As well, his wife is from the Florida area so the move would work. Tampa Bay was a league worse in goals against so its apparent that Luongo's services would be much appreciated. Tampa Bay would also get some draft picks which would be later in the round. For Vancouver, they would receive a player that adds size, toughness, and secondary scoring, exactly what the Canucks need. As well, the Canucks get a 10th overall pick in which they can add a great, young player.
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VAN - Manny Malhotra
FOR
NYI - 2nd Round Pick 2012

Reason: Though I love Malhotra and his leadership, his cap hit is too high for what he provides. The Canucks receive a pretty good pick in which they can pick up a good player, also replaces the pick in the TBL trade, and they also get some much needed cap space. For the Islanders they receive a great faceoff man, that can help take the younger guys under his wing, the team can also take on his space hit.
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VAN - Keith Ballard + Andrew Alberts + 1st Round Pick 2013
FOR
PHO - Oliver Ekman-Larsson

Reason: Provides some more needed cap space to the Canucks while puts the Coyotes up to the cap floor. Oliver Ekman-Larsson is a very talented player with a lot of potential, he can fit in on almost any defensive pairing. Keith Ballard will hopefully be able to revitalize his career in the desert while Alberts will likely see some more ice time. The 1st rounder would be the extra piece to get the Yotes to accept the deal, would likely be a late round pick in which they can get some good, young talent.
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Resignings:

Samuel Pahlsson: Two year, 3.0M contract, cap hit of 1.5M.

Reason: He played well, but not to the level he's capable of. Give him a contract for a couple more years to see how he does, the cap hit isn't too bad and its much better than the one he has now.
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Byron Bitz: One year, 750K.

Reason: In the few games he played this year, he played great. I'd want to see another, healthy season out of him before he gets some years added to his contract. He hit and added some points in the 10 games this season, he's a decent 3rd liner, great 4th liner to have on our team.
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Aaron Volpatti: One year, 700K.

Reason: I love this guy, he's a good BC boy who unfortunately was injured for much of the season. He brings energy and a hard-working attitude. See how he fares in a healthy season.
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Sami Salo: One year, 1.0M.

Reason: Salo was arguably the most consistent Canuck defender, I think at his age a 1 year, 1 million won't hurt the team and in fact could turn out to be a steal. If he's willing to come back for another year, it won't be about the money so that's good and he can help to mentor the rookies moving through the system.
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Marc-Andre Gragnani: Two years, 1.5M contract, cap hit of 750K.

Reason: Gragnani didn't get significant playing time so it's hard to determine what his value truly is, sign him for a cap-friendly contract and see what sort of player he turns out to be, add more years and dollars if he can make an impact on this team.
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Cory Schneider: Two years, 6.5M contract, cap hit of 3.25M.

Reason: This is arguably the biggest signing of the summer for the Canucks, with Luongo likely gone, he is the future of the team. Schneider is still relatively unproven, so I give him a contract that he'll be happy with and then in the future you can extend him, you can't be handcuffed with a Luongo-type contract again. Schneider in the games he's played in, he is calm and can control the game. He has had some great games, standing on his head and keeping the team in the game (ex. past playoff series vs. LA Kings).
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Eddie Lack: Two years, 2.5M contract, cap hit of 1.25M.

Reason: Lack seems like the next Schneider, once again, keep the years of his contract low to see his development and then add more on later. If Schneider for some reason turns out to be a dud, you have a great goaltender waiting in the wings. If Schneider plays the way everyone expects him to be able to, you can trade Lack for some good pieces down the road. I see another season in Chicago to get in some seasoning and perhaps a few call-ups to get in some NHL experience, then in following year he can be a full-time backup to Schneider.
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Steven Reinprecht: One year, 750K.
Ryan Parent: Two years, 2.0M contract, cap hit of 1.0M.
Matt Climie: Two years, 1.5M contract, cap hit of 750K.
Nolan Baumgartner: One year, 550K.

Reason: Another two years for Parent and Climie will develop them into the players they were once and are expected to be. For Reinprecht and Baumgartner, these guys are here to help mentor and show the ways of hockey to the younger guys, they'll be key to the development of some of the rookies.
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Gone:

Mason Raymond

Reason: Has played no where near what he's capable of, needs a change of scenery, also adds some cap space to the team.
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Andrew Ebbett
Aaron Rome
Victor Oreskovich
Steve Pinizzotto
Mike Duco
Mark Mancari
Dale Weise

Reason: For various reasons, most haven't played like they are capable of and just need another team to find to get more minutes and continue on with they're careers.
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UFA Signings:

Brandon Prust: Two years, 1.7M contract, cap hit of 850K.

Reason: This guy helps with many of the roster needs of the Canucks. He adds some toughness and he can even chip in with some offense. He would replace Weise, because he is much better and he's that perfect enforcer that we're in desperate need of.
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Martin Biron: One year, 800K.

Reason: Biron would provide some solid back-up goaltending and can help mentor Schneider to become a better goalie and person. If he doesn't play well, Lack can easily step in and provide his services.
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Scott Hannan: Two years, 2.0M contract, cap hit of 1.0M.

Reason: A guy right from here that can provide some good defensive play and bit of offense here and there. Wouldn't take a pay increase so that he can play in his hometown. Can slot in to the 3rd pairing alongside Tanev or Gragnani.
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PA Parentau: Three years, 5.25M contract, cap hit of 1.75M.

Reason: Had an outstanding offensive year, deserves a pay increase, can slot into any three of the tops lines.
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Lineup:

Sedin - Sedin - Malone/Burrows
Booth - Kesler - Higgins/Burrows/Parentau
Hansen - Pahlsson - Higgins/Burrows/Parentau/Malone
Prust - Lapierre - Kassian/Bitz

Bieksa - Hamhuis
Ekman-Larsson - Edler
Salo/Hannan - Tanev/Gragnani


Schneider
Biron
Lack

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I think that this a well thought out post. I'm not sure if all of the numbers and logistics work as far as trades go but I gree with a good portion of it, including our lack of size, needing more Canadians and toughness and the sickening amount of diving this team does. I also agree with resigning Bitz and Volpatti and getting rid of Raymond and most of the others that you mentioned.

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Posted 30 April 2012 - 12:26 AM

Ok you reccommended kesler as captain bc leads by example on the ice etc than you discussd "diving" as a detriment to the team. What was kesler doing in the kings series? Lol

Also, you want a captain who doesnt face the media after adversary?

I think this leadership issue is being blown out of proportion. It would have made no difference who was captain, bieska, kesler etc bc they were all playing in same series and outcome was the same. Its more like we need guys like "brown" who can provide that physical elemant that lifts their team with a body check or a goal

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Posted 30 April 2012 - 01:30 AM

sedin-sedin-burrows
booth-(stephen)weiss-kesler
higgins-schroeder-jensen ----> we clearly need 3 scoring lines
hansen-lapierre-kassian

edler-bogosian
hamhuis-bieksa
allen-tanev

Schneider
lack

get er done GMMG!
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Posted 30 April 2012 - 02:01 AM

The only big changes i expect to see are in the crease and inserting a top 2 D, other than that, keeping as many players from the stanley cup run as possible is important, maybe add a top 6 playmaker. (from within?)
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Posted 30 April 2012 - 02:04 AM

sedin-sedin-burrows
booth-(stephen)weiss-kesler
higgins-schroeder-jensen ----> we clearly need 3 scoring lines
hansen-lapierre-kassian

edler-bogosian
hamhuis-bieksa
allen-tanev

Schneider
lack

get er done GMMG!


Those bottom 6 forward lines are too young in my opinion. Rookie lines are for teams like edmonton. If we have a rookie or two, you need to surround them with veterans. Hansen is a top 9 player.
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Posted 30 April 2012 - 04:36 AM

Ok I'll play. I can be un realistic also. Lets convince Luongo Columbus is where he should go.

Sedin-Sedin-Burrows
Nash-Kesler-Booth
Higgins-Lappierre-Jensen
Hansen-Malholtra-Kassian
Volpatti

Suter-Tanev
Hamhius-Bieksa
Edler-Cannauton
Grangani
Shnieder (3.5 mil) lack (1.25)
As you can see Ballard is gone, Suter was signed (6 mil)Raymond also moved for what ever ( Iam sure GMMG would get the most possible for these assets)
According to cap geek this gives us a CAP of
$$65,412,500br />So depending on where the cap is going to be at, I like this team

Edited by 2009cupchamps, 30 April 2012 - 04:40 AM.


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Posted 30 April 2012 - 04:37 AM

As if Phoenix trades OEL for that package.

Here's my idea:

Trade Luongo, Ballard, the rights to Raymond along with our second rounder this year to Chicago for Patrick Kane, Jeremy Morin and Corey Crawford

Trade Manny Malhotra and Corey Crawford to Edmonton for Ryan Jones, Curtis Hamilton and a 2nd

Trade Jones to Columbus for their 2nd

Trade David Booth, and Vancouver's, Columbus's, and Edmonton's 2nd to Nashville for Weber (this one might not happen)

Trade Kevin Bieksa (if he waives his no trade) to Toronto for Tyler Biggs, rights to Jonas Gustavvson, and their 2nd

Sign Zach Parise and Ryan Suter each to 6 year, $42,000,000 contracts ($7,000,000 a year), call up Jordan Schroeder, Kevin Connauton, and Nicklas Jensen

Canucks 2012-13 line up:

Daniel - Henrik - Burrows
Parise - Kesler - Kane
Kassian - Schroeder - Jensen (our 'kid' line)
Higgins - Lapierre - Hansen

Edler - Weber
Hamhuis - Suter
Tanev - Connauton

Schneider
Lack

**And then I wake up.


You've been playing far too much EA. You're looking at around $30m for Weber, Suter, Parise and Kane.

Btw, an offer sheet on Weber would get Nashville FOUR 1st round picks. Unless of course he gets a "for life" contract that has cap reducers tacked on the end.
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