Hank33 Posted May 3, 2012 Share Posted May 3, 2012 wow this is the first time i've heard this And anyways we won the presidents trophy two years in a row, so why are we trying to diminish this great accomplishment? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanucksSayEh Posted May 3, 2012 Share Posted May 3, 2012 Divisional games are always tough regardless of bottom feeder presence. Even the dominant Pittsburgh Steelers have a hard time with the Browns. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hotdawg Posted May 3, 2012 Share Posted May 3, 2012 That's a myth. There is no such thing as a weak division, or even a weak team. The league is more balanced now than ever before. Infact the North-west division, has a winning record against all 3 Eastern divisions combined. NW Division vs 3 Eastern Divisions = 43 wins 33 losses 14 ot. (you call that weak ?) If the league played all teams equally, you would see the Western teams with more points than the Eastern ones. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Onions Posted May 3, 2012 Share Posted May 3, 2012 What do you guys think? In my opinion the canucks only came away with the presidents trophy this year because our division was so weak and we were able to take so many points from our division members. Looking at the regular season standings it would be easy to say that the pacific division is a weak division but I think its the opposite, it may be one of the strongest division which is why the points are divided so evenly as they are playing each other for a majority of the year. The Atlantic division is probably the strongest with 4 teams over 100 points and 3 teams still in the hunt for the cup. The northwest division is weak with only the canucks as a legitimate cup contender but the presidents trophy gave the canucks loftier expectations. We faced a team that has been playing much harder games within their division all year and it's no surprise that they came in to the series guns a blazing while we continued to coast thinking we'd get victories like we have all year within the division. If the canucks were in any other division i doubt they would have been the top seeded team in all reality. I just watch the way the canucks have played all year compared to these teams left in the playoffs and it's obvious there was a lack of tenacity and hunger to go out and get wins. It's too bad because I think that the re-aligment of the conferences may have been the best thing for the canucks out of anything right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shift-4 Posted May 3, 2012 Share Posted May 3, 2012 NW Division vs 3 Eastern Divisions = 43 wins 33 losses 14 ot. (you call that weak ?) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hotdawg Posted May 3, 2012 Share Posted May 3, 2012 That means the Eastern teams had 47 wins Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shift-4 Posted May 3, 2012 Share Posted May 3, 2012 Thanks Einstein, I mentioned points. North-West = 86 points East = 80 points Therefore we win ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
La Mauviette75 Posted May 3, 2012 Share Posted May 3, 2012 If the Presidents trophy is only a product of a weak division, how do you explain New York finishing just 1 point behind Vancouver? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TotesMagotes Posted May 3, 2012 Share Posted May 3, 2012 Guess what? We only played teams in our division 2 more times than the rest of the conference. Besides, Canucks played better against tougher teams anyways. The argument that we won the P because of a weak division makes no sense. The Canucks got outplayed by the Flames and Oilers at times during the season, and then on the other hand they would dominate teams like Detroit, Chicago and other good teams....So enough of this dumb argument. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BenDrinkin Posted May 3, 2012 Share Posted May 3, 2012 This is pretty much a matter of fact. There's a simple formula for the Presidents trophy winner; Top team + weakest division = Presidents trophy winner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobby_Lu1ngo Posted May 3, 2012 Author Share Posted May 3, 2012 If the Presidents trophy is only a product of a weak division, how do you explain New York finishing just 1 point behind Vancouver? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elvis15 Posted May 3, 2012 Share Posted May 3, 2012 I disagree. If that was the case, then why weren't the Bruins better? The Northeast was almost as crappy, yet they ended up almost 10 points less than us in the overall standings. Add to that we were something like 11-6-3 against the toughest division in hockey currently, the Central, and we deserved our regular season success. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canacks1970 Posted May 3, 2012 Share Posted May 3, 2012 Well Because they had a tougher division, 3 other teams in that division had 100 points as well and they play those teams a lot, those are tough teams to get 2 points against otherwise they would have walked away with the PT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryanstorm Posted May 3, 2012 Share Posted May 3, 2012 If it isn't our fault for that, why should anyone use it as an excuse. The way it is, Canucks are presidents trophy winners and that is all. Plus the Canucks just make everyone look weaker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master Mind Posted May 3, 2012 Share Posted May 3, 2012 No, because a member here on CDC already proved that Boston got more points against their own division and they couldn't get the President's Trophy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CowtownCanuck Posted May 3, 2012 Share Posted May 3, 2012 It was a race to not win the trophey between New York and St. Louis with us, they happened to lose the last few games (some say NY did it intentionally to choose their Playoff matchup). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
realnucksfan2010 Posted May 3, 2012 Share Posted May 3, 2012 Well "NuckFanLivinginCalgary:(" if you read the rest you would see that what i said makes sense. The team has become LAZY! they had no fight in them that is why they lost, it is that simple! to add to that I also wrote that hopefully the fact that they went out in the first round will serve as a wake up call and they will play with heart and effort next year. The OP was right, and he did hit the nail on the head, as well i don't do drugs or drink! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tm085 Posted May 3, 2012 Share Posted May 3, 2012 if we played all 82 games against divisional opponent then you could use that argument, but we don't. We did well against everyone not just our own division Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
La Mauviette75 Posted May 3, 2012 Share Posted May 3, 2012 In some ways you could say the New York Rangers and the Boston Bruins play in a weaker conference because they play against the Southeast division Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geoff Peterson Posted May 3, 2012 Share Posted May 3, 2012 All divisions have bottom feeders..."BALLS" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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