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Zack Kassian

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I didn't mind the trade, just the timing of it.

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Yes MG made a good move, Cody would have wanted more money for sure but in Zack it'll pay off too. Thing is people seem to think our core group is so close to the end and it's simply not the case but let them think it. Fact is, they still have time and MG will do whatever it takes w/o selling out our future and he has said that.

It's NOT MG's fault he was asked to take the reigns for a team whose owners were a bunch of cheap skates (pun intended) Griffith's and never won a cup, no matter who came here to do it would have been the same story. I'm glad MG has that mindset because even if we do win a cup then there will be other years that people would cry about if we sold the farm for one cup and then had a crappy team after it.

IMO there wasn't anything wrong with trading for a guy who does have the potential to become a power forward who you'd normally have to pay through the nose for in cap dollars and limiting other parts of the team that are needed too. There's no arguing we need a power forward developing in the stable that could be paying dividends in the next cpl of yrs in which the core will still be quite good and more experienced to help players like that mature for the future long after the core is replaced.

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You say we need to be patient. I say as fans we've all been patient enough. If this guy isn't going to help us win a cup NEXT YEAR, then we shouldn't have traded for him. The core of our teams window is closing as we speak.

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he doesn't have enough experience. period. :bored:

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So you want our prospect that we traded Vancouver's golden boy for to fail and be unsuccessful just so you can gloat over people not being able to say it's because power forwards take longer to develop? Quite a fan I see.

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Power forwards do take longer to develop. It's not an excuse, it's a fact. Unless you're someone like Nash who had a 40-goal sophomore season, but he only scored 17 goals in his rookie season. That's a pretty big jump.

Let's take a look at other power forwards in the league. Lucic didn't develop into the player he is today until 2010-11, in his first 3 season he had 8, 17, and 9 goals respectively. It took Iginla a couple of seasons to reach near-30 goal marks, and 4 to actually reach it. 5 season before he reached 50 goals. Bertuzzi erupted for 25 goals in his 5th season, after having scored 10 goals in a season only once in his previous 4. He scored 46 in his 8th season.

I'm not saying Kassian will ever match any of those players in terms of offensive production (though I really hope he does), but it's a fact that power forwards take longer to fully develop.

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It's NOT MG's fault he was asked to take the reigns for a team whose owners were a bunch of cheap skates (pun intended) Griffith's and never won a cup, no matter who came here to do it would have been the same story. I'm glad MG has that mindset because even if we do win a cup then there will be other years that people would cry about if we sold the farm for one cup and then had a crappy team after it.

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IMO he's not good enough and will never reach his potential. He couldn't make it on a struggling buffalo team yet Gillis expected him to help the Canucks in the playoffs? Yes, he needs experience and time to develop but I do not think he'll ever be more than 3rd/4th line plug in the NHL. I hope I'm wrong but I truly doubt it.

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It's too early to make a judgment, I liked what I saw from Kassian but he didn't play much and he's still really young.

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Kassian advantages relative to Hodgson

1 - speed

2 - size (even as a 21 yr old, the difference in the play of Lapierre was notable - team-mates play bigger with him in lineup)

3- character/team-player

4- fits a more vital/needed role

5- will not need to be sheltered defensively - responsible and effective two-way player at a young age

6- can play up and down the lineup effectively

7- has an extra year on his RFA contract at just over half what Hodgson was making

8- does not have an annoying agent who creates ridiculous ice-time controversies and will demand a Stamkosesque contract

9- is not the most over-rated young player in Canucks history and has not already been projected the next captaincy.

Hodgson's advantages

1- scored a nice goal in Boston

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Let me guess, you were one of the same "experts" calling Hodgson a bust only a season ago.

People who don't understand how development of young players works should really just keep quiet. You just make yourself sound dumb.

21 years old is very young to be making an impact in the NHL. People already forget how Cody was a deer lost in the headlights last season, and then this season he was in the calder race. Kassian needs the same amount of time Cody got. This will be the biggest sumer of his career, and he knows it.

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