Toews Posted May 6, 2012 Share Posted May 6, 2012 But on topic of this, its plausible and I do like it. Helps for the future big time as well as now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Franz Liszt Posted May 6, 2012 Share Posted May 6, 2012 That's not much coming from you. You would find a hard time not liking a proposal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smashian Kassian Posted May 6, 2012 Author Share Posted May 6, 2012 I love having my own style and all the attention But on topic of this, its plausible and I do like it. Helps for the future big time as well as now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Läck Ness Monster Posted May 6, 2012 Share Posted May 6, 2012 As much as I want Chris Kreider, I doubt the blueshirts are willing to move him for anything less than elite talent as part of a package, or even at all. That's gonna be the guy playing alongside Stepan and Gaborik in the near future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smashian Kassian Posted May 7, 2012 Author Share Posted May 7, 2012 As much as I want Chris Kreider, I doubt the blueshirts are willing to move him for anything less than elite talent as part of a package, or even at all. That's gonna be the guy playing alongside Stepan and Gaborik in the near future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Läck Ness Monster Posted May 7, 2012 Share Posted May 7, 2012 Well they get a good top 6 forward and 2 great prospects, niether to Kreider's level but Jensen is a really good prospect, much refered to as "Hit or Miss" so if it's a hit he could be a very good player, maybe a 1st/2nd liner. And Rodin is really dynamic, that package would probably be appealing to them, they already have some good young players, and Kreider is better than both but if they could turn him into to other good prospects i'm sure they would and we could change the 5th and 6th into a 2nd or 3rd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VintageForever420 Posted May 7, 2012 Share Posted May 7, 2012 Hi, I've been thinking about this for awhile, and I feel like I have come up with a pretty good off-season plan. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- To Toronto: -Roberto Luongo -Manny Malhotra -3rd Round Pick (2014) To Vancouver: -Jake Gardiner -Mike Komisarek -Jesse Blacker Roberto would put Toronto into the playoffs, then Malhotra also helps because one of the biggest reasons they have been missing the playoffs is penalty killing so he would really help in that area. Gradiner is obvisously a very good young D-man and Blacker is also a really good D-man, he's in the AHL right now and would be atleast for next year but he is a very good young prospect, and Komisarek is a cap dump and to even it out, we could either trade him for next to nothing, buy him out, or bury him in the minors. Here's some stuff on Blacker. http://www.hockeysfu...t/Jesse_Blacker http://mapleleafshot...-jesse-blacker/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- To New York (Rangers): -Chris Higgins -Anton Rodin -Nicklas Jensen -5th Round Pick (2013) -6th Round Pick (2013) To Vancouver: -Chris Kreider -Shane McColgan I know it may seem like an overpayment to some but that's probably what it will take to get Kreider, he brings alot, size, speed, a good shot, goes to the dirty areas and so-on, he is an Upgrade on Jensen and he is already NHL ready and next season he will be even more developed. Also McColgan is (in my opinion atleast) an underrated prospect, a smaller prospect, offensive minded, more of a playmaking winger, who isn't afraid to drop the gloves. He could be a 5th Round steal if he can round his game and develop properly He scored 62 points in 67 games (21G,45A) last year and this season scored 64 points in 70 games (18G,46A) Here's some stuff on McColgan: http://www.hockeysfu.../shane_mccolgan http://bleedingallbl...ed-skilled.html And also some stuff on Kreider (for those who don't know): http://www.hockeysfu...s/chris_kreider http://www.snyranger...couting-report/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- To New Jersey: -Kevin Bieksa -Mason Raymond -Yann Sauve -1st Round Pick (2013) To Vancouver: -Travis Zajac -Eric Gelinas If you think this is an overpayment, it's what it would take, Zajac is one of there best players, and if Parise won't re-sign it would take more to get Zajac and I feel he is what we need. he's a big solid two-way/playmaking centre, he has a great shot, and is good at making plays, he's great on faceoffs, can kill penalties, be physical, he really brings alot, and seems to be a playoff preformer. Gelinas is a very good young defensemen, he has a great skillset, he's big (6-3, 190), there's alot to like, he has a bomb of a shot, likes to rush the puck, can join the rush, quarterback the powerplay, he can kill penalites, be physical, he has an absolute ton of potential, and should definetly develop well and reach his potential. His weakness is the same problem Bieksa was having with his game, he tends to "chase the game" and always tries to make things happen, he just has to learn to "let the game come to him" but it's nothing that coaching and experience can't fix.\ Gelinas: http://www.hockeysfu...ts/eric_gelinas http://www.hockeybuz...p?post_id=37645 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Re-signing's Samuel Pahlsson---------------------3.7 Mill, 2 yrs. (1.85M per/yr) Cory Schneider-----------------------10.5 Mill 3 yrs. (3.5M per/yr) Sami Salo------------------------------1.5 Mill 1 yr. Marc-Andre Gragnani---------------1.9 Mill 2 yrs. (950K per/yr) Byron Bitz------------------------------800K 1 yr. Eddie Lack-----------------------------1.8 Mill 2 yrs. (900K per/yr) Dale Weise-----------------------------1.4 Mill 2 yrs. (700K per/yr) Ryan Parent----------------------------750K 1 yr. Aaron Rome----------------------------950K 1 yr. Aaron Volpatti--------------------------650K 1 yr. Free agent signing's -Dennis Wideman--------------------13.5 Mill 3 yr. (4.5 per/yr) -Martin Biron---------------------------900k 1 yr. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- CAPGEEK.COM CAP CALCULATOR ROSTER My Custom Lineup FORWARDS Daniel Sedin ($6.100m) / Henrik Sedin ($6.100m) / Alexandre Burrows ($2.000m) David Booth ($4.250m) / Ryan Kesler ($5.000m) / Travis Zajac ($3.888m) Chris Kreider ($1.325m) / Jordan Schroeder ($1.025m) / Zack Kassian ($0.870m) Maxim Lapierre ($1.000m) / Samuel Pahlsson ($1.850m) / Jannik Hansen ($1.350m) Dale Weise ($0.700m) DEFENSEMEN Dan Hamhuis ($4.500m) / Dennis Wideman ($4.500m) Alexander Edler ($3.250m) / Jake Gardiner ($1.117m) Keith Ballard ($4.200m) / Chris Tanev ($0.900m) Sami Salo ($1.500m) GOALTENDERS Cory Schneider ($3.500m) Eddie Lack ($0.900m) ------ CAPGEEK.COM TOTALS (follow @capgeek on Twitter) (these totals are compiled without the bonus cushion) SALARY CAP: $64,300,000; CAP PAYROLL: $62,374,167; BONUSES: $975,000 CAP SPACE (24-man roster): $1,925,833 -Biron and Lack can compete for the back up job, I just put lack in it here, but either way I have them both at the same cap hit. -We all know Salo isn't a 7 d-man so don't flame over that, he may not even play in the NHL next year and if he does come back he won't play all 82, he will sit out a few and probably have an injury at some point, and also with they way our d-men go down it's rare that we have them all in the line-up at once. -I know Hansen isn't a 4th liner, I have been saying that but if we put that line together we could use them as a traditional checking 3rd line, and they would be a great line in the playoffs and we could balance out the ice time more throughout the season. -And finally Zajac or Kesler could play wing, it really doesn't matter which is where I just put it like that for now. Some of the trades may be a little off but with some "fine tuning" it could be done. Well, anyone have some feedback or thoughts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smashian Kassian Posted May 7, 2012 Author Share Posted May 7, 2012 With the prospect pool the Rangers have, I don't think they'd wanna move quality for numbers, even if it's a good deal value-wise. The only thing their prospect pool lacks is a good prospect at center ice, but I don't think that'll matter since they already have guys in the organization that can play center ice well for the foreseeable future in Richards, Stepan, Anisimov, and Boyle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Läck Ness Monster Posted May 7, 2012 Share Posted May 7, 2012 J.T Miller? They have a decent prospect pool, some of there young players like Hagelin and Stepan are already in the NHL but they are still young players, and there prospects are better than ours, they have some decent players, and even some good B prospects. If this trade happens they would have this. (in no order). Dylan McIlrath, Tim Erixon, J.T Miller, Christan Thomas, Nicklas Jensen, Anton Rodin. They have some other guys who are decent, some B prospects like Michael St.Crox, Jesper Fasth, and then Zuccarello, Hagelin, Stepan, Del Zotto, Mcdonagh, Anisimov, are all young players too that will still grow. The Blueshirts have alot of good young talent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smashian Kassian Posted May 7, 2012 Author Share Posted May 7, 2012 Huh, always thought he was a winger for some reason. My bad then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TwinTelepathy Posted May 7, 2012 Share Posted May 7, 2012 Hi, I've been thinking about this for awhile, and I feel like I have come up with a pretty good off-season plan. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- To Toronto: -Roberto Luongo -Manny Malhotra -3rd Round Pick (2014) To Vancouver: -Jake Gardiner -Mike Komisarek -Jesse Blacker Roberto would put Toronto into the playoffs, then Malhotra also helps because one of the biggest reasons they have been missing the playoffs is penalty killing so he would really help in that area. Gradiner is obvisously a very good young D-man and Blacker is also a really good D-man, he's in the AHL right now and would be atleast for next year but he is a very good young prospect, and Komisarek is a cap dump and to even it out, we could either trade him for next to nothing, buy him out, or bury him in the minors. Here's some stuff on Blacker. http://www.hockeysfu...t/Jesse_Blacker http://mapleleafshot...-jesse-blacker/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- To New York (Rangers): -Chris Higgins -Anton Rodin -Nicklas Jensen -5th Round Pick (2013) -6th Round Pick (2013) To Vancouver: -Chris Kreider -Shane McColgan I know it may seem like an overpayment to some but that's probably what it will take to get Kreider, he brings alot, size, speed, a good shot, goes to the dirty areas and so-on, he is an Upgrade on Jensen and he is already NHL ready and next season he will be even more developed. Also McColgan is (in my opinion atleast) an underrated prospect, a smaller prospect, offensive minded, more of a playmaking winger, who isn't afraid to drop the gloves. He could be a 5th Round steal if he can round his game and develop properly He scored 62 points in 67 games (21G,45A) last year and this season scored 64 points in 70 games (18G,46A) Here's some stuff on McColgan: http://www.hockeysfu.../shane_mccolgan http://bleedingallbl...ed-skilled.html And also some stuff on Kreider (for those who don't know): http://www.hockeysfu...s/chris_kreider http://www.snyranger...couting-report/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- To New Jersey: -Kevin Bieksa -Mason Raymond -Yann Sauve -1st Round Pick (2013) To Vancouver: -Travis Zajac -Eric Gelinas If you think this is an overpayment, it's what it would take, Zajac is one of there best players, and if Parise won't re-sign it would take more to get Zajac and I feel he is what we need. he's a big solid two-way/playmaking centre, he has a great shot, and is good at making plays, he's great on faceoffs, can kill penalties, be physical, he really brings alot, and seems to be a playoff preformer. Gelinas is a very good young defensemen, he has a great skillset, he's big (6-3, 190), there's alot to like, he has a bomb of a shot, likes to rush the puck, can join the rush, quarterback the powerplay, he can kill penalites, be physical, he has an absolute ton of potential, and should definetly develop well and reach his potential. His weakness is the same problem Bieksa was having with his game, he tends to "chase the game" and always tries to make things happen, he just has to learn to "let the game come to him" but it's nothing that coaching and experience can't fix.\ Gelinas: http://www.hockeysfu...ts/eric_gelinas http://www.hockeybuz...p?post_id=37645 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Re-signing's Samuel Pahlsson---------------------3.7 Mill, 2 yrs. (1.85M per/yr) Cory Schneider-----------------------10.5 Mill 3 yrs. (3.5M per/yr) Sami Salo------------------------------1.5 Mill 1 yr. Marc-Andre Gragnani---------------1.9 Mill 2 yrs. (950K per/yr) Byron Bitz------------------------------800K 1 yr. Eddie Lack-----------------------------1.8 Mill 2 yrs. (900K per/yr) Dale Weise-----------------------------1.4 Mill 2 yrs. (700K per/yr) Ryan Parent----------------------------750K 1 yr. Aaron Rome----------------------------950K 1 yr. Aaron Volpatti--------------------------650K 1 yr. Free agent signing's -Dennis Wideman--------------------13.5 Mill 3 yr. (4.5 per/yr) -Martin Biron---------------------------900k 1 yr. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- CAPGEEK.COM CAP CALCULATOR ROSTER My Custom Lineup FORWARDS Daniel Sedin ($6.100m) / Henrik Sedin ($6.100m) / Alexandre Burrows ($2.000m) David Booth ($4.250m) / Ryan Kesler ($5.000m) / Travis Zajac ($3.888m) Chris Kreider ($1.325m) / Jordan Schroeder ($1.025m) / Zack Kassian ($0.870m) Maxim Lapierre ($1.000m) / Samuel Pahlsson ($1.850m) / Jannik Hansen ($1.350m) Dale Weise ($0.700m) DEFENSEMEN Dan Hamhuis ($4.500m) / Dennis Wideman ($4.500m) Alexander Edler ($3.250m) / Jake Gardiner ($1.117m) Keith Ballard ($4.200m) / Chris Tanev ($0.900m) Sami Salo ($1.500m) GOALTENDERS Cory Schneider ($3.500m) Eddie Lack ($0.900m) ------ CAPGEEK.COM TOTALS (follow @capgeek on Twitter) (these totals are compiled without the bonus cushion) SALARY CAP: $64,300,000; CAP PAYROLL: $62,374,167; BONUSES: $975,000 CAP SPACE (24-man roster): $1,925,833 -Biron and Lack can compete for the back up job, I just put lack in it here, but either way I have them both at the same cap hit. -We all know Salo isn't a 7 d-man so don't flame over that, he may not even play in the NHL next year and if he does come back he won't play all 82, he will sit out a few and probably have an injury at some point, and also with they way our d-men go down it's rare that we have them all in the line-up at once. -I know Hansen isn't a 4th liner, I have been saying that but if we put that line together we could use them as a traditional checking 3rd line, and they would be a great line in the playoffs and we could balance out the ice time more throughout the season. -And finally Zajac or Kesler could play wing, it really doesn't matter which is where I just put it like that for now. Some of the trades may be a little off but with some "fine tuning" it could be done. Well, anyone have some feedback or thoughts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smashian Kassian Posted May 7, 2012 Author Share Posted May 7, 2012 NO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canucksbiggestfan Posted May 7, 2012 Share Posted May 7, 2012 You don't need Schroeder in your line up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smashian Kassian Posted May 7, 2012 Author Share Posted May 7, 2012 You don't need Schroeder in your line up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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