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#31 Ray_Cathode

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Posted 06 May 2012 - 03:44 PM

I am really looking forward to seeing Nicklas Jensen in training camp. If his short stint with the wolves (4 goals in 6 reg season games, 2 goals in 5 playoff games), then i think we have a really good offensive player on our hands. i think he needs to beef up a bit to fight his height but if he can put on some weight we have a great powerforward waiting for his chance. yes he does need to prove himself and only a very impressive training camp will result him being with the Canucks to start but I think we should try and find a top 6 forward to play with the sedins (perry?) and bring up jensen to replace raymond in the top 6. Hopeful line up:

Sedin-Sedin-Perry
Jensen-Kesler-Booth
Hansen-Phalsson-Higgins
Kassian-Lapierre-Bitz
Weise
Malhotra

Edler Tanev
Bieksa Hamhuis
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Rome

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Two goals in two playoff games, he got a concussion in the second game.

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Posted 06 May 2012 - 03:49 PM

Honestly,I don't see the Vancouver organization pushing this kid too hard. Many times mistakes are made by rushing good, young prospects to the NHL (ie. Alexander Daigle). There is little doubt he is going to be a machine (quite possibly the steal of the draft) for the Canucks, but MG needs to make sure he's ready. I think they'll have a good look at him, but in the end they'll send him to Chicago for a season.


He can't play in the AHL next season, he's not old enough. It's either the NHL or back to Junior.

I think he'll end up playing his nine trial games and then go back to Junior and tear it up..... then a full season in the AHL with maybe some call ups... THEN he'll have his time to shine in the big leagues. Prospects take time people!! We don't need to rush them and we won't. I don't expect to see Jensen being a full-time player for the Canucks until the 2014-2015 season.

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Posted 06 May 2012 - 03:54 PM

Next season Kassian will be more NHL ready than Jensen for that top 6 spot. Jensen needs time to develop, he's still a boy playing trying to play in a man's league.


The AHL is not a boys league - that would be junior. I have played against minor pro players and juniors, and there is a world of difference between the two. The top fifth of the AHL could easily be swapped with the bottom fifth of the NHL - without much loss in skill or toughness - those kinds of swaps are what got guys like Burrows, Kessler, Bieksa, Schneider, etc into the NHL. Jensen has shown he can play in the AHL - as 8 goals in 10 AHL games can attest - which is pretty much all that Kassian has done (15 goals in 27 AHL games). Jensen plays much more an NHL style than Kassian.

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Posted 06 May 2012 - 03:56 PM

If you read the post afterwards, I corrected myself cause I thought Perry was a free agent and we could have used the money from luongo and raymond being gone. I also didnt say jensen deserved the spot, I said if he beefs up a bit and has an impressive training camp then he should be considered. 6 goals in 8 games with a new team going from junior to the A is pretty impressive, playing with the players for the first time. I put him in the top 6 because he is an offensive player and is top 6 or nothing. as far as the d pairings go, i think tanev and edler would be an awesome pairing, and im just thinking realistically bringing up connauton for the powerplay in case salo decides not to come back and we dont sign another d man. as far as kassian goes, I saw him play maybe a handful of games where he looked like he had some promise and i dont think he deserves a top 6 spot before anyone cause he aint ready yet either. That line up is big, dangerous, and defensively responsible

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Posted 06 May 2012 - 04:01 PM

Next season Kassian will be more NHL ready than Jensen for that top 6 spot. Jensen needs time to develop, he's still a boy playing trying to play in a man's league.


He showed more upside in the few preseason games with the Canucks than Kassian has so far...but you're probably right

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Posted 06 May 2012 - 05:39 PM

Jensen just suffered an elbow to the face concussion at the A level.

This kid is not developed physically a superhuman.


Fixed that for you.

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Posted 06 May 2012 - 05:54 PM

Luongo for Perry -> :sadno:

Bringing up Jensen for next season -> :picard:

TRADING BURROWS - > :shock:

D Pairing? -> <_<

Edler Tanev
Bieksa Hamhuis
Ballard Connauton


I believe Salo will come back for another year.

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Posted 06 May 2012 - 06:25 PM

I thought jensen looked great last season in preseason he was doing just fine. He is more ready then most draft picks i have seen.

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Posted 06 May 2012 - 06:34 PM

Yea but how many AHL games did he play? He played all year in junior where he is playing against boys.

The AHL is not a boys league - that would be junior. I have played against minor pro players and juniors, and there is a world of difference between the two. The top fifth of the AHL could easily be swapped with the bottom fifth of the NHL - without much loss in skill or toughness - those kinds of swaps are what got guys like Burrows, Kessler, Bieksa, Schneider, etc into the NHL. Jensen has shown he can play in the AHL - as 8 goals in 10 AHL games can attest - which is pretty much all that Kassian has done (15 goals in 27 AHL games). Jensen plays much more an NHL style than Kassian.



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Posted 06 May 2012 - 07:24 PM

Ok armchair GM, which of Henrik or Kesler would he replace to play in the top 6? Your memory must be short if you don't remember the exact situation we had with Hodgson in the lineup, where he was forced to the 3rd line.

RNH wouldn't have been as capable pushed down the lineup. Perhaps he might have fit with Kesler moving to the wing and Booth on the other side, but with that line playing tougher minutes and more of a physical north south game I don't see how an undersized playmaker would have been as much help.


That's the worst logic I've ever heard. By that logic, no one should want the 1st overall this year to draft Yakupov since he was injured in juniors - clearly not physically ready even for junior.

The hit on Jensen was an elbow to the head, similar to the Moore hit on Naslund. Jensen was on the boards rather than open ice, but he made the same mistake of reaching for the puck and a player hit him in a vulnerable position. Being more 'developed physically' wouldn't have saved him injury there, but if you still think so, we never should have played Naslund since he obviously couldn't stand up to the same type of hit. For that matter, Moore should never have played since he clearly wasn't physically ready for Bertuzzi to punch him from behind and then have multiple players dog pile on top of him.

wow, what a rant, the comment on rnh was nothing more than a generalization on canucks management reluctance to play younger players, put your pom-poms aside and chill...whew!

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Posted 06 May 2012 - 09:00 PM

Kassian should spend some time in the AHL first.

Players Nikolaj Ehlers have been compared too by the fan base of the Vancouver Canucks.

 

1 Pavel Bure

2 Markus Naslund

3 Nathan Mackkinon

4 Jonathan Drouin.

5 Jonathan Tavares

 

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combine results.  Ehlers 5'11 162 lbs of solid rock.  


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Posted 06 May 2012 - 09:35 PM

Next season Kassian will be more NHL ready than Jensen for that top 6 spot. Jensen needs time to develop, he's still a boy playing trying to play in a man's league.


I am afraid that I disagree. If you look at Kassian's AHL record (15 goals in 30 AHL games; no goals in 3 playoff games) and compare it to Jensen's short stint in the AHL, a strong case could be made that Jensen is more NHL ready. They are very similar in size. Jensen came close to making the team last October; the fact that he was brought up to the AHL team for the end of the regular season and playoffs indicates that the Canucks' brain trust is projecting him to make the team next year.

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Posted 07 May 2012 - 07:30 AM

If Jensen does well pre-season and lights it up for the first nine games, then he should stay in Vancouver. If you are good enough, you are old enough.

If he then begins to wilt, he can go back down.

The experience of being in Vancouver for training camp and playing in pre -season games will help his development. If he is ready for the NHL, play him. If not, send him down to develop further in the minors.

From the little I have seen of him and read about him, he will be an important part of this team - maybe not next season, but certainly at some point in the near future.

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Posted 07 May 2012 - 09:01 AM

Of course we would probrably send nugent hopkins back to juniors because we are already stacked as a championship calibre team. The Oilers on the other hand..........

Of course we would probrably send nugent hopkins back to juniors because we are already stacked as a championship calibre team. The Oilers on the other hand..........

Of course we would probrably send nugent hopkins back to juniors because we are already stacked as a championship calibre team. The Oilers on the other hand..........


Yeah we were stacked alright..We blew the competition away !!!

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Posted 07 May 2012 - 09:04 AM

Kassian should spend some time in the AHL first.


Ya I agree....I think Gillis was saying he was like a ppg (too lazy to look up stats) in the AHL

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Posted 07 May 2012 - 09:06 AM

Ya I agree....I think Gillis was saying he was like a ppg (too lazy to look up stats) in the AHL




Edit: Just checked....26 points 30 games....15 goals 11 assists

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Posted 07 May 2012 - 09:30 AM

Jensen just suffered a concussion at the A level.

This kid is not developed physically.


Yes, he really needs more time in the gym to work on those skull muscles......

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Posted 07 May 2012 - 09:31 AM

I could see the Canucks calling up Jensen if there was an injury to a top six guy. I'm really excited to see what this guy can do when he makes the NHL.


This will be awesome... we can all be so excited for the next few years at our awesome prospect, have him finally make the team, have him rip it up, have him sit on the bench and then have him traded for a 4th line player!!!!

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Posted 07 May 2012 - 09:34 AM

If Jensen does well pre-season and lights it up for the first nine games, then he should stay in Vancouver. If you are good enough, you are old enough.

If he then begins to wilt, he can go back down.

The experience of being in Vancouver for training camp and playing in pre -season games will help his development. If he is ready for the NHL, play him. If not, send him down to develop further in the minors.

From the little I have seen of him and read about him, he will be an important part of this team - maybe not next season, but certainly at some point in the near future.


If he exceeds 9 nhl games he can't be sent down. It's the Canucks for the full season or juniors for the full season. Which is why he needs to be lights out good to win a spot. The safest bet is another year in juniors.

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Posted 07 May 2012 - 09:42 AM

If he exceeds 9 nhl games he can't be sent down. It's the Canucks for the full season or juniors for the full season. Which is why he needs to be lights out good to win a spot. The safest bet is another year in juniors.


Fair enough, thanks for that. If he goes back to the Juniors with up to 9 games in the NHL under his belt, it will surely be to his benefit (on the assumption that he looks good enough at training camp and in pre - season games).You are probably right about another year in juniors, but it would be a shame if we don't get a good look at him first.......

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Posted 07 May 2012 - 09:51 AM

wow, what a rant, the comment on rnh was nothing more than a generalization on canucks management reluctance to play younger players, put your pom-poms aside and chill...whew!

Hmmm, if it makes you feel better, maybe I should have quoted your first reply in this thread:

about jensen, i'll caution you this organization are impatient at the nhl level to play youngsters, this club would have sent ryan nugent-hopkins back to juniors lol


And that's why this board is so idiotic at times. People come in to a reasonable thread talking about a fresh topic and then use it to further their unsupported arguments. To say we wouldn't have played RNH even if we had him is probably true, but not for the reasons you're insinuating.

If you don't like that I've given you facts with which to base a proper argument on - versus your "lol" worthy statement for a team that has just won consecutive President's Trophies and already has 2 top centers being more likely to send a top pick back to juniors than a team that has finished low enough in the league to get 3 first overall draft picks - then I can't be too worried about what you think of my 'rant' about such poor generalizations.

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Posted 07 May 2012 - 09:52 AM

If he exceeds 9 nhl games he can't be sent down. It's the Canucks for the full season or juniors for the full season. Which is why he needs to be lights out good to win a spot. The safest bet is another year in juniors.


He can still be sent back to Junior, but it will burn a year of his contract.

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