TACIC Posted May 10, 2012 Author Share Posted May 10, 2012 Yeah Neal dosent back check year he is paid 5 mil a year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kloubek Posted May 10, 2012 Share Posted May 10, 2012 Even *before* he got injured, he was unable to get into the offensive zone properly. The fact is that there is nothing about Raymond that is exceptional, except for his speed. His defensive play and mobility is good, his hands are average at best, and his strength on the puck and along the boards is far below what it needs to be. As a result, he is simply not talented enough to be on the top 2 lines. And he isn't strong enough to be on the bottom 2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raph Posted May 10, 2012 Share Posted May 10, 2012 Raymond is one of the few snipers in the league that will back check every time. So at least he is defensively responsible. His scoring touch will come back next year. Still worth around $2m in my book. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
avelanch Posted May 10, 2012 Share Posted May 10, 2012 Yeah Neal dosent back check year he is paid 5 mil a year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Light Racicot Posted May 10, 2012 Share Posted May 10, 2012 I only see the defence losing ground on him here. Is that good enough. To say he isn't fast exposes your bias my friend. You are yet another person who only sees what you want to see. or this. Raymond payback on Marchand. Speed and goes to the net. He's got it all and we trade him and regret it, I say. Raymond with Kes. We have missed this. again at the net for Kes This one is interesting because if you look Raymond is the player dashing to help in front of his own goal. He turns on a dime when the Canucks get the puck and he is off. Look at the defenders who just give up. He is the king of transition. Wrap around Sweet to drag. One of the things which strike me on quite a few of MR's goals is his tremendous chemistry with Kesler. On it's day it's awesome!................The guy has it all. We need to stick with him at least another season in my book. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KING ALBERTS Posted May 10, 2012 Share Posted May 10, 2012 raymond didn't go to the net before he broke his back... pretty poor excuses some of you are making for him. raymond isn't a top 6 forward on any team in the NHL - and as a bottom 6 he is soft and ineffective. really, where does he fit in on this team? the chicago wolves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
puckluv Posted May 10, 2012 Share Posted May 10, 2012 Very brave post is all I can say Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bodee Posted May 10, 2012 Share Posted May 10, 2012 raymond didn't go to the net before he broke his back... pretty poor excuses some of you are making for him. raymond isn't a top 6 forward on any team in the NHL - and as a bottom 6 he is soft and ineffective. really, where does he fit in on this team? the chicago wolves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeanBeef Posted May 11, 2012 Share Posted May 11, 2012 i say resign him for 1.25 mil or less, if not goodbye Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Millerdraft Posted May 11, 2012 Share Posted May 11, 2012 Can you give us 3 with Raymond's speed? just to make you work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
avelanch Posted May 11, 2012 Share Posted May 11, 2012 i say resign him for 1.25 mil or less, if not goodbye Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thehun Posted May 11, 2012 Share Posted May 11, 2012 Cool, let's forget his inability to score, his ability to spend more times on his butt and not on his skates. Let's not forget that he is making too much money for what he does. Cut him loose. The Canucks will easily survive without him. A shame really because I wanted to see him hit his potential. Maybe he just needs a change of scenery. He sure did not play for a contract extension this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zombieksa Posted May 11, 2012 Share Posted May 11, 2012 His upside is the compensation we will get when he gets an offer sheet from a low tier franchise overpaying for a defensively gifted forward. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bang Bang Boogie Posted May 11, 2012 Share Posted May 11, 2012 Off the top of my head: Andrew Cogliano, Darren Helm, Jannik Hansen, Viktor Stalberg, Torrey Mitchell, Lauri Korpikoski, Mikkel Boedker, Matthew Lombardi, Jason Chimera, Matt Cooke, Tyler Kennedy, Carl Hagelin (Martin Erat, Matt Duchene, Devon Setoguchi, Michael Grabner, Kris Versteeg as well but these guys score). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hockey Fever Posted May 11, 2012 Share Posted May 11, 2012 Fast and soft with no hands or hockey sense, enough said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lateralus Posted May 11, 2012 Share Posted May 11, 2012 Taylor Hall, Marian Gaborik, Martin St. Louis, Steven Stamkos, Tyler Ennis, Mike Green, Kris Letang, Ryan Kesler, Patrick Kane, plus so many others. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TACIC Posted May 11, 2012 Author Share Posted May 11, 2012 he also gets more than 1 ppg and is consistently over 12% in his shooting%. raymond hasn't come close to either of those, and he's smaller and weaker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUPERTKBD Posted May 12, 2012 Share Posted May 12, 2012 Just for the sake of illuminating how people can give up on a player, I thought I'd show you all a previous quote: Every game i watch with him in the lineup(all of them) I find myself screaming at the tv because of the stupid stuff the guy does. Personally i'd rather have any of the guys that are fighting for a spot on the team rather than him. Everyone's #1 reason they like this guy from what I read on this forum "He's great on the pk. Who cares! Anyone can do this thats fighting for a spot. He can't score and i'm tired of kesler carrying this guy on his back night after night, I'm tired of him losing the puck, falling down everywhere seriously this guy falls down a hundred times a night can't he skate its ridiculous Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tocnhockey Posted May 12, 2012 Share Posted May 12, 2012 Just for the sake of illuminating how people can give up on a player, I thought I'd show you all a previous quote: Seems about bang on, doesn't it? It does, until you realize that the player being criticized is not Mason Raymond. See if you can guess who it is..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gollumpus Posted May 12, 2012 Share Posted May 12, 2012 I think we might see a case where MG doesn't qualify Mayray and then try and sign him as a UFA at a more reasonable salary. The risk of course, is that he ends up signing with the Flames or the Avs, rediscovers his game and comes back to haunt the Canucks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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