Franz Liszt Posted May 12, 2012 Share Posted May 12, 2012 Hi. I have now brought it down once again to 3 trades & 3 1/2 FA signings. This only works if the salary cap goes up to $68.8+ million. I also looked at HF Boards and was looking at some value trades, so here is something to consider; - Nashville fans seem to think the 11th overall pick for Colin Wilson's (RFA) & Ryan Suter's (UFA) rights is a good trade. So I thought I would top it. Anyways, here goes my magic: TRADES: To TOR: Roberto Luongo, Manny Malhotra & Chris Tanev To VAN: Jake Gardiner & TOR 5th overall pick + LAK 3rd round pick Reasons: Leafs get their franchise goalie, a great penalty killer, because they absolutely sucked at penalty killing last season and Tim Connolly is not a 3rd liner. They also get a local kid that is calm and good in his own zone. Vancouver gets a high pick, plus a mid pick for a later trade & a good puck moving defender who is still quite young. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- To NSH: Edler, Ballard, Alberts, Schroeder, TOR 5th overall, LAK 2012 3rd, + Conditional 2013 1st & 3rd if Suter signs To VAN: Weber (RFA), Colin Wilson (RFA) & Suter (UFA) & NSH 2012 4th The value is tough for this one, but I tried; BREAKDOWN: (A part of the 5th overall pick is good value for all 3 parts of the breakdown) For Suter's rights: Ballard & Conditional 2013 1st & 3rd For Weber's rights: Edler, Alberts & 5th overall pick For Wilson's rights & NSH 4th: Schroeder & LAK 2012 3rd Reasons: Nashville doesn't look like they're able to re-sign Suter, so he has the least amount of value of the three for being a UFA. Weber will require a hefty sum, so Edler (49 point defenseman), Alberts (depth) & the 5th overall pick should do it. Colin Wilson a center can play RW decently (whereas Schroeder can't very well), but he isn't getting top-6 minutes with Legwand, Fisher, Erat, Hornqvist & the Kostitsyn's ahead of them. So Schroeder and a 2nd should help them for the near future. The Predators don't have a 1st because they traded it for Gaustad, so they should draft Dumba or Ceci with it. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- To CGY: Mason Raymond (RFA), VAN 2012 1st (26th) & VAN 2013 4th To VAN: Alex Tanguay & Blair Jones (RFA) BREAKDOWN: For Tanguay: VAN 2012 1st & Raymond (RFA) For Jones: VAN 2013 4th Reasons: Calgary needs to do a semi-rebuild/reload. Tanguay who is 32 should waive his NTC to go to a contending team. Cervenka I don't think will be stellar for Calgary. Calgary gets an extra 1st round pick plus a late 3rd, and a defensive forward for their 3rd line. Vancouver gets their 2nd line playmaker and a 13th forward who is decent defensively and plays center. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- DRAFT PICK STATUS: 2012 1st round - N/A 2nd round - Vancouver (57th) 3rd round - N/A 4th round - Nashville (~110th) 5th round - Vancouver (147th) 6th round - Vancouver (177th) 7th round - Vancouver (207th) ------------------------------------------------------- RE-SIGNINGS: (After trades are done) Ryan Suter: 9 years @ $55.2 million. $6.133 cap hit Shea Weber: 9 years @ $54 million. $6.000 cap hit Sami Salo: 1 year @ $2 million Colin Wilson: 2 years @ $3.75 million. $1.875 cap hit Cory Schneider: 5 years @ $16 million. $3.200 cap hit Eddie Lack: 1 year @ $800,000 Marc-André Gragnani: 2 years @ $1.5 million (2-way deal for 1st year). $0.750 cap hit Dale Weise: 1 year @ $700,000 Blair Jones: 1 year @ $650,000 ----------------------------------------------------------------------- SIGNINGS: Jarret Stoll: 4 years @ $13 million. $3.250 cap hit Travis Moen: 2 years @ $3.5 million. $1.750 cap hit Stu Bickel: 2 years @ 1.7 million. $0.850 cap hit ----------------------------------------------------------------------- COLLEGE FREE AGENT: Justin Schultz: 2 years @ $1.8 million + $125,000 in bonuses. $1.025 cap hit (including bonuses) --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ROSTER: Sedin - Sedin - Burrows --------- 22 - 33 - 14 Tanguay - Kesler - Booth ------- 21 - 17 - 7 Higgins - Stoll - Wilson ----------- 20 - 26 - 30 Moen - Lapierre - Hansen ------- 34 - 40 - 36 Jones, Weise --------------------------29 -- 32 Suter - Weber ------------------------ 10 -- 4 Hamhuis - Bieksa --------------------- 2 -- 3 Gardiner - Schultz ------------------- 15 -- 8 Bickel, Gragnani, Salo ------------ 41 - 5 - 6 Schneider & Lack --------------------35 -- 31 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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ken kaniff Posted May 12, 2012 Share Posted May 12, 2012 you traded connauton twice. i didnt bother reading all of it. still very unrealistic. in a perfect world that might happen but not in this one how does suter get more than weber? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elvis15 Posted May 12, 2012 Share Posted May 12, 2012 One of these days, you'll post a proposal and I won't call it idiotic. Then you'll know you've done ok. Here's a hint, we traded Ehrhoff's rights as a pending UFA for a 4th. Hamhuis' rights were moved for Parent and a conditional pick, then moved again for a 3rd. It doesn't matter how good Suter is, but as a pending UFA he has very little trade value. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Franz Liszt Posted May 12, 2012 Author Share Posted May 12, 2012 One of these days, you'll post a proposal and I won't call it idiotic. Then you'll know you've done ok. Here's a hint, we traded Ehrhoff's rights as a pending UFA for a 4th. Hamhuis' rights were moved for Parent and a conditional pick, then moved again for a 3rd. It doesn't matter how good Suter is, but as a pending UFA he has very little trade value. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WetPaint Posted May 12, 2012 Share Posted May 12, 2012 The best part of this proposal is AriGold's sig. God Bless Kate Upton Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanKeslord17 Posted May 12, 2012 Share Posted May 12, 2012 Like your ideas, but we will never ever get Suter AND Weber. Heck, we probably won't get either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nd84 Posted May 12, 2012 Share Posted May 12, 2012 Like your ideas, but we will never ever get Suter AND Weber. Heck, we probably won't get either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Franz Liszt Posted May 12, 2012 Author Share Posted May 12, 2012 You just have to believe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Franz Liszt Posted May 12, 2012 Author Share Posted May 12, 2012 you traded connauton twice. i didnt bother reading all of it. still very unrealistic. in a perfect world that might happen but not in this one how does suter get more than weber? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hockey21383 Posted May 12, 2012 Share Posted May 12, 2012 your trades are brutal...Schroeder and 3rd round pick for Wilson....hahah as if! he got drafted 7th overall hes gotten 35+points for 2 straight seasons, so hes bound to breakout. And to top it off he's 6'1, 214 while Schroeder has never played a single game in the NHL and is 5'9, 180. I cant believe you put time in making such a stupid proposal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Franz Liszt Posted May 12, 2012 Author Share Posted May 12, 2012 your trades are brutal...Schroeder and 3rd round pick for Wilson....hahah as if! he got drafted 7th overall hes gotten 35+points for 2 straight seasons, so hes bound to breakout. And to top it off he's 6'1, 214 while Schroeder has never played a single game in the NHL and is 5'9, 180. I cant believe you put time in making such a stupid proposal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toews Posted May 12, 2012 Share Posted May 12, 2012 3 things: 1. It's for player's negotiating rights, so a pick alone is good for UFAs. Pick and young player is good value for RFAs. But depending on the RFA (Weber) more should be added, like the 5th overall. 2. Wilson and Trotz is similar to Vigneault and Hodgson. Trotz doesn't play Wilson properly and he doesn't give Colin a top-6 shot either. 3. I looked at your proposals. I could say the same for you. lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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