Gollumpus Posted May 13, 2012 Share Posted May 13, 2012 All the Hodgson haters have another fifteen years of this to come. It's all positive for me but not so good for Gillis lovers and the Hodgson hate machinery. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Hindsight Posted May 14, 2012 Share Posted May 14, 2012 July 28, 1997: What a mess When the Canucks introduced Mark Messier to the Vancouver media, they presented him with a number 11 jersey, despite the fact that the number had been retired by the team 25 years earlier. No one from the team had even bothered to contact the family of Wayne Maki (whose number had been retired) before the press conference. Perhaps this was an omen of things to come. Messier was supposed to be the missing piece of the puzzle that would push the Canucks to the next level. Early in the 1997-98 season, it became clear that the team was divided as some players were waiting for the six million dollar man to lead them to victory. Instead the general manager was fired in the midst of a team record ten game losing streak and the coach was fired soon after. Long time Canucks Trevor Linden, Martin Gelinas, Kirk McLean, Mike Sillinger, Gino Odjick, and Dave Babych were traded. The team missed the playoffs that season and each season since. What has Messier done since joining the Canucks? His career point total as a Canuck is near such notable players as Gary Lupul, John Gould and Moe Lemay. All that production for the low, low price of just $18,000,000.00! January 3, 1998: There goes the neighbourhood When Mike Keenan joined the Canuck organization, it was clear the housecleaning was about to begin. It didn't take "Iron" Mike long to start the purge. His first deal involved sending the most valuable player from 1996-97 (Martin Gelinas) and the team's all-time best goaltender (Kirk McLean) to Carolina. In exchange, the Canucks received three players who played a grand total of 38 games for the Canucks before being exiled themselves. February 2 and March 24, 1998: A two for none deal As the Canuck purge continued, Keenan made a pair of deals with the Philadelphia Flyers. In the first, he sent Mike Sillinger to the Flyers for a fifth round draft pick. Less than two months later, he sent that draft pick back to Philadelphia along with Dave Babych for a third round draft pick. A veteran and a role player for... Justin Morrison (the player the Canucks chose with that wonderful third round pick). http://www3.telus.net/dmarchak/candeal.htm Traded Pavel Bure, Bret Hedican, Brad Ference and a 1st round pick to the Florida Panthers for Ed Jovanovski, Kevin Weekes, Dave Gagner, and Nathan Smith. Yes, Bure had to go and yes Jovo was a valuable asset for this team, but he never quite fit in for whatever reason. Weekes was touted as the goalie of the future and Gagner was over the hill about 5 years before this deal. Nathan Smith never amounted to anything. Bure and Hedican both had good careers following this. Traded Cam Neely and a 1st round pick(Glenn Wesley) for Barry Pederson. Need I say more. Canucks fans have been living with this ghost for years., At the time it didn’t seem so bad, but Neely would go on to a Hall of Fame career and Wesley would be a valuable journeyman for many years to come. (side not: when Boston dealt Wesley to Hartford for three 1st round picks, they used one on Sergei Samsonov. They later dealt Samsonov to Edmonton for a 2nd rounder which they used to select Milan Lucic, who happens to be a Vancouver kid, so to this day this trade is biting Vancouver). http://thehockeyguys...anucks-history/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Putgolzin Posted May 14, 2012 Share Posted May 14, 2012 July 28, 1997: What a mess When the Canucks introduced Mark Messier to the Vancouver media, they presented him with a number 11 jersey, despite the fact that the number had been retired by the team 25 years earlier. No one from the team had even bothered to contact the family of Wayne Maki (whose number had been retired) before the press conference. Perhaps this was an omen of things to come. Messier was supposed to be the missing piece of the puzzle that would push the Canucks to the next level. Early in the 1997-98 season, it became clear that the team was divided as some players were waiting for the six million dollar man to lead them to victory. Instead the general manager was fired in the midst of a team record ten game losing streak and the coach was fired soon after. Long time Canucks Trevor Linden, Martin Gelinas, Kirk McLean, Mike Sillinger, Gino Odjick, and Dave Babych were traded. The team missed the playoffs that season and each season since. What has Messier done since joining the Canucks? His career point total as a Canuck is near such notable players as Gary Lupul, John Gould and Moe Lemay. All that production for the low, low price of just $18,000,000.00! January 3, 1998: There goes the neighbourhood When Mike Keenan joined the Canuck organization, it was clear the housecleaning was about to begin. It didn't take "Iron" Mike long to start the purge. His first deal involved sending the most valuable player from 1996-97 (Martin Gelinas) and the team's all-time best goaltender (Kirk McLean) to Carolina. In exchange, the Canucks received three players who played a grand total of 38 games for the Canucks before being exiled themselves. February 2 and March 24, 1998: A two for none deal As the Canuck purge continued, Keenan made a pair of deals with the Philadelphia Flyers. In the first, he sent Mike Sillinger to the Flyers for a fifth round draft pick. Less than two months later, he sent that draft pick back to Philadelphia along with Dave Babych for a third round draft pick. A veteran and a role player for... Justin Morrison (the player the Canucks chose with that wonderful third round pick). http://www3.telus.net/dmarchak/candeal.htm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tiredatwork Posted May 14, 2012 Share Posted May 14, 2012 I remember we had a thread like this last year. If you insert Grabners name everywhere you see Hodgson it's pretty much the same thread. Funny not a mention of Grabner this time round until now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TACIC Posted May 14, 2012 Author Share Posted May 14, 2012 Hodgson to Buffalo for two, count 'em, two pylons!!!!!!!!! Ha!!! Gillis should have his head read!!!!... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canucktican Posted May 14, 2012 Share Posted May 14, 2012 I would say Linden but he came back so my vote goes to the Cam Neely trade Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marleau_12 Posted May 14, 2012 Share Posted May 14, 2012 The Rucinsky trade was pretty facking bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baggins Posted May 14, 2012 Share Posted May 14, 2012 <p> All the Hodgson haters have another fifteen years of this to come. It's all positive for me but not so good for Gillis lovers and the Hodgson hate machinery. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slappipappi Posted May 14, 2012 Share Posted May 14, 2012 ..IMO if the Flames were smart they could've traded Iggy as a rental to a team and then got him back (before the new contract was signed). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Standing_Tall#37 Posted May 14, 2012 Share Posted May 14, 2012 Neely...because it screwed us again last year when they won the cup. No, it's true, track the trade to modern day and you'll see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ice orca Posted May 14, 2012 Share Posted May 14, 2012 All the Hodgson haters have another fifteen years of this to come. It's all positive for me but not so good for Gillis lovers and the Hodgson hate machinery. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TACIC Posted May 14, 2012 Author Share Posted May 14, 2012 The only thing constant in every thread you post in is your absolute hatred of Gillis. The positive for me is to watch you butt hurt Hodgson fanbois cry like a litte girl. Kassian wont become Neely but if you think Hodgson is going to be an elite player in this league you are sadly mistaken. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Opmac Posted May 14, 2012 Share Posted May 14, 2012 Hmmm... here are some that people haven't mentioned yet: 1. Traded Pavel Bure + others to the Florida Panthers for Ed Jovanovski + others 2. Adrian Aucoin and a 2nd round pick to the Tampa Bay Lightning for Dan Cloutier. 3. R.J. Umberger and Martin Grenier to the New York Rangers for Martin Rucinsky. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldnews Posted May 14, 2012 Share Posted May 14, 2012 All you people thinking the Hodgson trade is the worst in Canucks history should become Leafs fans - your negative expectations would be better satisfied. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BurnabyJoe Posted May 15, 2012 Share Posted May 15, 2012 Pavel Bure and Cody Hodgson wanted out. Of course those trades will be lopsided. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilbur Posted May 15, 2012 Share Posted May 15, 2012 Hmmm... here are some that people haven't mentioned yet: 1. Traded Pavel Bure + others to the Florida Panthers for Ed Jovanovski + others 2. Adrian Aucoin and a 2nd round pick to the Tampa Bay Lightning for Dan Cloutier. 3. R.J. Umberger and Martin Grenier to the New York Rangers for Martin Rucinsky. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gradin123 Posted May 15, 2012 Share Posted May 15, 2012 The worst pure trade was clearly Neely up to this point. However, more recently I think the worst decision(which was only part trade) was the decision to go with Ballard over Willie Mitchell. Willie Mitchell has not made it a secret he wanted to stay here but when the Canucks signed Hamhuis and traded for Ballard he knew he was out. So as a result the Canucks decided to give up: Willie Mitchell Michael Grabner 1st Round Pick(Howden) and 700,000 in cap space for Keith Ballard That is pretty bad! If the Canucks had Willie Mitchell instead of Ballard last year they likely would have won the cup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Honky Cat Posted May 15, 2012 Share Posted May 15, 2012 The worst pure trade was clearly Neely up to this point. However, more recently I think the worst decision(which was only part trade) was the decision to go with Ballard over Willie Mitchell. Willie Mitchell has not made it a secret he wanted to stay here but when the Canucks signed Hamhuis and traded for Ballard he knew he was out. So as a result the Canucks decided to give up: Willie Mitchell Michael Grabner 1st Round Pick(Howden) and 700,000 in cap space for Keith Ballard That is pretty bad! If the Canucks had Willie Mitchell instead of Ballard last year they likely would have won the cup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nuckin_futz Posted May 15, 2012 Share Posted May 15, 2012 If the Canucks had Willie Mitchell instead of Ballard last year they likely would have won the cup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TACIC Posted May 15, 2012 Author Share Posted May 15, 2012 The reason they lost is they scored 8 goals in 7 games. I fail to see how Willie could have helped unless you can see him scoring 2 goals a game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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