Curmudgeon Posted May 15, 2012 Share Posted May 15, 2012 So lets see... So far in 2012 playoffs: John Scott - 0 games Eric Boulton - 0 games Cam Janssen - 0 games Paul Bissonnette - 2 games yep, these guys are sure making a difference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeNiro Posted May 16, 2012 Share Posted May 16, 2012 Kassian will be a beast in the next couple years. Don`t believe me? Wait and see... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
morrissex95 Posted May 16, 2012 Share Posted May 16, 2012 I would rather make a play for Chris Stewart, Hitchock don't like him and he's lost in St. Louis. He's an RFA and hopefully the price is not too high. Exactly type of player nucks are lacking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thehamburglar Posted May 16, 2012 Share Posted May 16, 2012 Because toughness was what made us lose. I don't care what other teams have now that are further, we didn't lose because of toughness so this thread has no relevance Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
etsen3 Posted May 16, 2012 Share Posted May 16, 2012 Enforcers are a thing of the past now. By enforcers I mean 4th line dusters that sit on the bench and play 5 minutes a game. They are pointless and contribute nothing to the team, especially in the playoffs when fights are more rare and playing hockey is more important. Of course there are a lot of successful teams with players that contribute toughness, as well as other important skills. But pure enforcers are basically useless in the NHL right now. You won't see any of them getting much ice time in any meaningful games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shawn antoski Posted May 16, 2012 Author Share Posted May 16, 2012 Enforcers are a thing of the past now. By enforcers I mean 4th line dusters that sit on the bench and play 5 minutes a game. They are pointless and contribute nothing to the team, especially in the playoffs when fights are more rare and playing hockey is more important. Of course there are a lot of successful teams with players that contribute toughness, as well as other important skills. But pure enforcers are basically useless in the NHL right now. You won't see any of them getting much ice time in any meaningful games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shawn antoski Posted May 16, 2012 Author Share Posted May 16, 2012 So lets see... So far in 2012 playoffs: John Scott - 0 games Eric Boulton - 0 games Cam Janssen - 0 games Paul Bissonnette - 2 games yep, these guys are sure making a difference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thad Posted May 16, 2012 Share Posted May 16, 2012 "O'brian" bahahaha that is funny in more ways then one. Nucks need bigger bodies that can bang and drop gloves when required. Travis Moen, Gaustad, Simmonds, Brouwer, Chimera types of players are what nucks should be after. Luongo for JVR and Simmonds...drool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thad Posted May 16, 2012 Share Posted May 16, 2012 i dont think you have played any organised sports, its call an intimidation factor, with these guys out on the ice or on the bench, opposing players dont take liberties because they know there is someone to answer too. all im saying is you need a enforcer are on the roster ,If games start to get chippy and dirty they can be thrown in during the series to keep everyone in check Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Opmac Posted May 16, 2012 Share Posted May 16, 2012 Mike Gillis has preached better balance. I think adding an enforcer adds to balance, so I would expect it to happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan Murray Posted May 16, 2012 Share Posted May 16, 2012 Lets face it, ever since we gave up Rypien and O'brian, other teams have been tossing the canucks around like rag dolls. No disrespect too players like Kesler,Burrows,Bieska and Lapierre, they are hard working players that play a physical game , but come on they are not Intimidating at all. The canucks have always had enforcers as far back as I can remember, but now in days I think Bieska might be are toughest player. I miss having guys like Rypien, Hordichuck , Brashear, Odjick, and Shawn Antoski. I'm not saying lets give up all are skill for a goon but i wouldnt mind a fighter as a 4th liner or a 6th dman edit: responding to the most popular post Posted A minute ago /index.php?app=forums&module=forums§ion=findpost&pid=10651470">goalie13, on 15 May 2012 - 12:39 PM, said: So who are the enforces contributing in the Stanley Cup playoffs right now? /index.php?app=forums&module=forums§ion=findpost&pid=10651547">Snake Doctor, on 15 May 2012 - 01:55 PM, said: EXACTLY 2012 playoffs so far 39 fights or major penalties 2011 playoffs 29 fights or majors through out the whole playoffs 2010 playoffs 23 fights or majors all together team toughness, intimidation and enforcers are needed. NYR didnt get John Scott for no reason NJ has Boultan and Jannsen PHO has Bissonettee LA has Clifford and fraser Vans enforcers this year were Ballard Volpaati Lappy and Weise.... that pretty sad when it come to intimidating tough guys heres a little interesting fact about teams that made the playoffs and teams that didnt when it comes to overall team size Biggest teams in NHL (average weight): Washington (209.5) LA (209.3) Ottawa (208.1) San Jose (207.5) Phoenix (207.0) Smallest teams in NHL Buffalo (197.4) Dallas (199.3) New York Islanders-Pittsburgh Penguins (200.8) Carolina (201.1) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperReverb2 Posted May 16, 2012 Share Posted May 16, 2012 Don't need or can't have the so called traditional enforcer as long as the instigator rule is in effect. Hands the other team a 7 minute power play everytime the so called enforcer goes after somebody. What we need a skilled players that play the game HARD and punish the team (legally) everytime they are on the ice. LA did that to the Canucks in the opening round with a dynamic, fast, hard hitting, forecheck from pretty much every one of their lines. Pretty hard to even think about hurting the other team if you are simply trying to survive every shift you have on the ice. DON'T need and enforcer, we simply need, fast, hard nosed, skilled players that play the game hard and play the game to win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Standing_Tall#37 Posted May 16, 2012 Share Posted May 16, 2012 Brandon Prust & Mike Rupp are the only "enforcers" left - and they can play hockey too. The day of the goon is dead. Get it through your heads. If you can't play two-way hockey as well as pound people; you ain't worth crap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The-Impersonator Posted May 16, 2012 Share Posted May 16, 2012 Sign Konopka and Asham in the off season. Can both play and drop the mitts if needed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
6string Posted May 16, 2012 Share Posted May 16, 2012 if the canucks wanted an enforcer they would have picked one up on waivers.....bitz type of players are the new age "enforcer" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
6string Posted May 16, 2012 Share Posted May 16, 2012 the enforcer today has to be re-defined, he has to be able to take a regular with the bottom 6 shift and platooned to the top line when things get nasty for our top line.....yah, we'd all like to have a lucic, but i like the the chris niel type too. ya gotta live with their bad penalties or reputation calls but an enforcers presence with a decent skill set is a must for the canucks, we can't wait long term, we need it now! kassian is our hope but if he's not ready to go, get one who is because there still is a need in todays nhl to drop the gloves, deliver some crushing hits ( momentum shift ) and chip in with some 25 - 35 points. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
6string Posted May 16, 2012 Share Posted May 16, 2012 LOL if we get an enforcer - that's a waste of a body on our roster rather have raymond. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shawn antoski Posted May 16, 2012 Author Share Posted May 16, 2012 Sorry for quoting the OP, but we didn't really give up Rypien. His last game was a Canuck, so he finished his career here. And his life. RIPRYP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shawn antoski Posted May 16, 2012 Author Share Posted May 16, 2012 the enforcer today has to be re-defined, he has to be able to take a regular with the bottom 6 shift and platooned to the top line when things get nasty for our top line.....yah, we'd all like to have a lucic, but i like the the chris niel type too. ya gotta live with their bad penalties or reputation calls but an enforcers presence with a decent skill set is a must for the canucks, we can't wait long term, we need it now! kassian is our hope but if he's not ready to go, get one who is because there still is a need in todays nhl to drop the gloves, deliver some crushing hits ( momentum shift ) and chip in with some 25 - 35 points. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThaBestPlaceOnEarth Posted May 16, 2012 Share Posted May 16, 2012 I don't see how people think it's such a "no-brainer" to have a guy like Wiese or Volpatti instead of a guy like Steve Macintyre. The Canucks have a ton of high-end skill, you can't tell me a guy like that can't play 5-10 minutes a game and be just as good as some random fourth-liner, while also bringing the intimidation factor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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