Dogbyte Posted May 17, 2012 Share Posted May 17, 2012 Your comment has no merit. The Sedins play several minutes less than the majority of the stars in the league. Adding 45 seconds to a minute per game would still have them under the majority. With a simple bit of PK each game, the Sedins would remain under 20 minutes per game, but be kept IN the game. In the top 25 scorers in the league, Henrik Sedin gets the 3rd least ice time. Only Eberle and Whitney had less ice time of that group of players. The Sedins themselves came out and said they weren't tired when AV tried to say he limited them because of that. Did you watch Henrik in the playoffs after being run over by Brown? When he came back and did an Epic shift which was a couple of normal shifts long and showed no sign of tiring, I find it difficult to swallow the argument that an extra minute per game would wear the poor swedes out... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ButterBean Posted May 17, 2012 Share Posted May 17, 2012 While I do agree with this to an extent, there are a couple of reasons they don't play the PK. The risk of injury when blocking shots. They aren't fast, which is a disadvantage when trying to grab loose pucks and when the other team is moving the puck quickly.They aren't big nor physical which could potentially cause injury when battling along the boards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeNiro Posted May 17, 2012 Share Posted May 17, 2012 Maybe it's why their defensive games never really developed like Kesler or Burrows. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neversummer Posted May 17, 2012 Share Posted May 17, 2012 Hate to say it but Sedins are one trick ponies. No PK, no shootout. World class elite offensive forwards that cycle magically and know each other with their eyes closed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jester@wraiths.ca Posted May 17, 2012 Author Share Posted May 17, 2012 Yet at the same time Kesler can apparantly play 20+ even when injured. Makes perfect sense doesn't it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canuckelhead70 Posted May 17, 2012 Share Posted May 17, 2012 Hate to say it but Sedins are one trick ponies. No PK, no shootout. World class elite offensive forwards that cycle magically and know each other with their eyes closed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GHL Posted May 18, 2012 Share Posted May 18, 2012 If your captain is not doing it all, he shouldn't be your captain. This year once again, the Canucks have shown they're in the business of entertainment; not in the business of winning Cups. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jester@wraiths.ca Posted May 18, 2012 Author Share Posted May 18, 2012 Semin - 0:00 (played 1:09 minutes total, not average) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gollumpus Posted May 18, 2012 Share Posted May 18, 2012 Since marc Crawford's last year here, when he used the Sedins on a secondary PK unit, and they not only excelled but leaguewide were actually the last pair of forwards on regular PK duty to be on for a PP goal against, I've been against AV's refusal to use them on the PK. A season ago in the playoffs against LA when our PK couldn't kill a penalty to save their souls, he finally put them on the PK, and they turned the series around... but after that, once again he removed them from the PK... I feel the Sedins are entirely capable and would actually benefit from getting 0:45-1:15 of PK per game, keeping our stars in the flow of the game, and it seems like most other coaches would do so... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jester@wraiths.ca Posted May 18, 2012 Author Share Posted May 18, 2012 Some people drastically misunderstand this though, it isn't saying that our PK would be better with the Sedins on it, it's saying that the Sedins would benefit by being kept in the game, every game, and that overall, re-building their defensive play (which was shown to be quite good when Crow used them heavily on the PK) would benefit the team in general. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bossram Posted May 18, 2012 Share Posted May 18, 2012 The Sedins ice-time is simply allocated much better in an offensive role. We already have a boatload of players who can ably fill the penalty killing duties. What's the point of wasting the Sedins on the PK when you could give your two best offensive players more offensive-zone time? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jester@wraiths.ca Posted May 18, 2012 Author Share Posted May 18, 2012 The Sedins ice-time is simply allocated much better in an offensive role. We already have a boatload of players who can ably fill the penalty killing duties. What's the point of wasting the Sedins on the PK when you could give your two best offensive players more offensive-zone time? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2gingers1cup Posted May 18, 2012 Share Posted May 18, 2012 because AV is a moron who constantly gets outcoached and refuses to make changes when necessary we shoulda got this guy behind the bench when he was available Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pomorick Posted May 18, 2012 Share Posted May 18, 2012 Quite often when we get in penalty trouble early in a game the Sedins just sit on the bench and the game is lost before they are really in the game. How is not using your best players for long stretches of time smart coaching? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Aerosex Posted May 18, 2012 Share Posted May 18, 2012 They're capable PKers, we already know this because they'd kill penalties earlier in their career (and were more effective than some might think). Maybe it'd be better for them to get more ice time and play a more rounded game. The argument against is that Kesler, Malhotra, Pahlsson, Burrows, Hansen, Raymond...they're all better PKers. Why have the twins spend more energy and risk more injury on the PK when there are a plethora of players better suited for killing penalties? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jester@wraiths.ca Posted May 18, 2012 Author Share Posted May 18, 2012 They're capable PKers, we already know this because they'd kill penalties earlier in their career (and were more effective than some might think). Maybe it'd be better for them to get more ice time and play a more rounded game. The argument against is that Kesler, Malhotra, Pahlsson, Burrows, Hansen, Raymond...they're all better PKers. Why have the twins spend more energy and risk more injury on the PK when there are a plethora of players better suited for killing penalties? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaNuCkSLoUiE23 Posted May 18, 2012 Share Posted May 18, 2012 We have players who are WAY better than the twins on the PK. Kesler, Burrows, Jannik, and Manny. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pomorick Posted May 18, 2012 Share Posted May 18, 2012 The Sedins sitting on the bench for 10 minutes without stepping on the ice is brainless. It's not like their metabolism instantly will go into overdrive. There is a reason why players do a warm up skate at the begging of each and every game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wai_lai416 Posted May 18, 2012 Share Posted May 18, 2012 i have no problems with not playing the sedins on the PK. less chance to be injured and they don't really go down to block shots.. it'll also add to fatigue throughout the season as their TOI will probably increase too as a result. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jester@wraiths.ca Posted May 18, 2012 Author Share Posted May 18, 2012 It's always enjoyable reading replies from people who never read the thread or paid attention to any information in it. It's one of the joys of CDC for sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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