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I'm curious as to why we traded both these players? i understand both didn't suit the 1st with the sedins but why didn't we put them on our bottom six, wouldn't that have made sense?? big body's who can throw hits and chip in the odd goal while checking other top lines, or was this already tried? and what did we get in return for them??

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Steve Bernier was miscast as a top-six forward for the Canucks.

In his last season as a Canuck, when he returned in the playoffs after missing a significant amount of time with an ijury, he was an excellent forechecker against the Los Angeles Kings as a fourth liner. He was a fantastic fourth liner for the Canucks, but $2.5 million is just too expensive for a fourth liner and money needed to back the other way to fit Keith Ballard.

Thus he was dealt to the Florida Panthers where he was tried as a top-six forward again. It didn't work.

The New Jersey Devils are using him correctly again as a bottom-six forward and he's thriving as a physical winger.

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Pyatt lost his fiancee to a tragic accident and it seemed like a change of scenery might be good for him.

I agree with what you are saying though - I have read a lot of comments disparaging both those guys because they did not turn out to be perennial 30 goal scorers - but they have both averaged about 15 goals a season over their careers, and Pyatt in particular is a very good back-checking two way player who is only a one milllion cap hit at this point. New Jersey signed Bernier for $525 thousand. Neither turned out to be first liners, but are good depth players.

Bernier was used as a piece in the Ballard deal - which certainly looked like a good acquisition at the time - despite all the hindsighters who endlessly complain about him.

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The problem is that these two players were AV's favourites getting top 6 ice time when they were clearly 3rd/4th line players. If they were given that role with a reasonable contract, they would have had a chance to develop and excel properly.

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I'm curious as to why we traded both these players? i understand both didn't suit the 1st with the sedins but why didn't we put them on our bottom six, wouldn't that have made sense?? big body's who can throw hits and chip in the odd goal while checking other top lines, or was this already tried? and what did we get in return for them??

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Both Pyatt AND Bernier played with the Sedins and finished playing within the bottom 6 before they left.

Pyatt's play declined with us unfortunately after the incident with his fiancee. It was a good change of scenery for him in Phoenix and he seems to be settled in and doing well there

Bernier was part of a deal that brought us what we hoped to be a big defenseman for us. Bernier was a physical guy but was acquired to be physical AND produce goals but he didn't do much of that. I remember the best hockey he played with us was during the playoffs when he was on the third line.

Raymond-Wellwood-Bernier was a force!

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Pyatt's eyes were too pretty to be held down to one city... haha but no, he was a potential power forward that played smaller than his size and the momentary glimpses of good play were not enough to make anybody want to keep him.

There are 1000's of players like Bernier, and many come at a cheaper price than he was asking for.

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Steve Bernier was miscast as a top-six forward for the Canucks.

In his last season as a Canuck, when he returned in the playoffs after missing a significant amount of time with an ijury, he was an excellent forechecker against the Los Angeles Kings as a fourth liner. He was a fantastic fourth liner for the Canucks, but $2.5 million is just too expensive for a fourth liner and money needed to back the other way to fit Keith Ballard.

Thus he was dealt to the Florida Panthers where he was tried as a top-six forward again. It didn't work.

The New Jersey Devils are using him correctly again as a bottom-six forward and he's thriving as a physical winger.

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