CRAZY_4_NAZZY Posted May 24, 2012 Share Posted May 24, 2012 Garrison for 4 mil? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edler's Mind Tricks Posted May 24, 2012 Share Posted May 24, 2012 People who want to trade one overpriced defensemen who enjoyed success in Florida when given ample opportunity... Just to sign another one... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uber_pwnzor Posted May 24, 2012 Share Posted May 24, 2012 2011-12 Jensen cant play Ahl or Nhl 2012-13 Jensen can play Ahl or Nhl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gino Odjick Posted May 24, 2012 Share Posted May 24, 2012 I really hope Jensen and schroder get there 9 games at least... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cody9 Posted May 24, 2012 Share Posted May 24, 2012 Did you not see that AV just got extended? Any hopes of developing rookies can be stopped now. kthxbye Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanKeslord17 Posted May 24, 2012 Share Posted May 24, 2012 For some reason, I Don't like David Booth. I just don't think he's the right fit here. We need to actually get a top 6 forward who can score, PASS and hit. Someone like Jordan Staal. I think Booth, Ballard, 1st would get it done. Booth IMO is a good player, but much like Ballard, he just doesn't fit on this team. Sedin-Sedin-Burrows Higgins-Staal-Jensen Gaustad-Lapierre-Hansen Moen-Malhotra-Kassian With Kesler: Sedin-Sedin-Burrows Jensen-Staal-Kesler Higgins-Gaustad-Hansen Malhotra-Lapierre-Moen Sign Gaustad and Moen. Bring up Jensen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TwinTelepathy Posted May 24, 2012 Share Posted May 24, 2012 Couple of reasons why I think we should give are prospects a chance to start the season with the team. - Keslers replacement is not going to come via a trade or a free agent. Who ever steps up to help fill that void is going to have to be from within the organisation. Schroeder has the potential to be a 2nd line center, so why not give him a shot at it for the first month while Kesler is out. -Kassian should not be playing in the AHL next season, hes NHL ready , hes big, can hit, and he can skate, playing in the NHL will help him develop his game better then the AHL. -Jensen is the wild card, out of the forwards, hes the youngest out of the bunch, but hes the favorite to make it among NHL scouts. If the scouts believe hes are best prospect right now, I want too see what he's got. -When it comes to defencemen , I think we should have Gragnani or Tanev alternating out the the bottom 2. With so many young guys starting at forward the Canucks are better off having more veterans playing D. - One of AV's biggest criticisms is not giving prospects any playing time. With his new contract freshly signed maybe it will help get some critics off his back if he did let them start the first 15 games or so. -The start of the season is the best time to be experimenting, it leaves room for them to catch up if there experiment doesn't go well. Besides teams like the Oilers and the Laughs are usually the best teams to start the season anyways. It usually takes teams about 3 months to settle down and figure each other out. -The NHL is getting younger and younger, season after season, the Canucks are not following that trend. Now in days in the cap era, teams need young players with cheap contracts that are able to play at high levels. Hawks won that way , the Bruins too, and Philly was so stacked this year because of all there young guys low salaries(this offseason will be an interesting one for them). - Who knows we may have the next Sean Couturier, Adam Henrique, or Carl Hagelin already in are system. -All I'm saying is at least give are prospects a real chance to shine in the NHL during the first 15 games or so. ______________________________________________________________________________ Here is a lineup i wouldn't mind seeing to start the season or at least until the Luongo(maybe Schneider) trade happens and when Kesler comes back - My main reason to let the kids play........ KEEP LUONGO AND SCHNEIDER..... 1 more year as a tandem, keeping them together gives us are best shot at winning Lord Stanley..... -If not the whole season, keep both of them untill the goalie market really heats up, teams usually know they have goaltending issues when its closer to the all star break. Right now the market is kinda cold especially with Lu's limited no trade clause. CAPGEEK.COM CAP CALCULATOR ROSTER My Custom Lineup FORWARDS Daniel Sedin ($6.100m) /-------- Henrik Sedin ($6.100m) / ---------Alexandre Burrows ($2.000m) David Booth ($4.250m) /-------- Jordan Schroeder ($1.025m) /--- Chris Higgins ($1.900m) Jannik Hansen ($1.350m) / -----Manny Malhotra ($2.500m) /------ Nicklas Jensen ($0.894m) Jordin Tootoo ($1.750m) / ------Maxim Lapierre ($1.000m) /------- Zack Kassian ($0.870m) Ryan Kesler ($5.000m) / Zenon Konopka ($0.800m) DEFENSEMEN Kevin Bieksa ($4.600m) /------------ Dan Hamhuis ($4.500m) Sami Salo ($2.000m) /---------------- Alexander Edler ($3.250m) Jason Garrison ($4.000m) /--------- Chris Tanev ($0.900m) Marc-Andre Gragnani ($1.150m) / GOALTENDERS Roberto Luongo ($5.333m) Cory Schneider ($3.250m) ------ CAPGEEK.COM TOTALS (follow @capgeek on Twitter) (these totals are compiled without the bonus cushion) SALARY CAP: $64,300,000; CAP PAYROLL: $64,522,500; BONUSES: $125,000 CAP SPACE (23-man roster):- $222,500 Ballard Raymond Alberts can be traded for anything Sign Lack, Ebbett, Volpatti and Weise 2 way Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TwinTelepathy Posted May 24, 2012 Share Posted May 24, 2012 Garrison for 4 mil? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
needtogetswole Posted May 24, 2012 Share Posted May 24, 2012 There, their, and they're. Learn the difference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Honky Cat Posted May 24, 2012 Share Posted May 24, 2012 Im sorry, did you say that Kassian will develop in the NHL more than the AHL? Lets see....Kassian on the 4th line.....AV is terrible with prospects....Kassian gets 3 minutes a game....... = . Im pretty sure Kassian would get more than 3-5 minutes a game in the AHL.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edlerberry Posted May 24, 2012 Share Posted May 24, 2012 What is with people typing lines out with people in positions they dont play? Its not it was simply listed by line arbitrarily, as the centers of the lines are all lined up. Jensen plays LW normally. Hansen plays RW exclusively. Salo is RD. Edler has always been RD. Bieksa has always been RD. Hamhuis has always been RD. EVEN ON POWER PLAYS. That being said, I really like Garisson at 4 million or less (although keeping Ballard wouldn't be all that bad, he plays well with tanev and seems to have come around... espescially is Garisson ends up being 4 million.) I hope Salo stays one more year and can play well enough/long enough for 2nd pairing D-man minutes. We have enough depth to not have to sign Konopka, and we really dont need to spend 1.7 million on tootoo of all people. I'd rather spend the money on Pahlsson, hope Salo takes a minor paycut, and Garisson signs for something reasonable like 3 million. If we signed pahlsson for 2 million, Salo for 2 million, and kept ballard (more reasonable than trading Ballard AND getting that exact defenseman back), and signing schnieder for 4 million and not signing TooToo or Konopka, we still end up below the CURRENT cap. With next years projected cap looking like it'll go up to 69 million~, even if it goes up half that, we'll still have room to play. And thats not including the difference in Kesler/Schroeder's salary while Kesler is out. That is assuming Schroeder gets sent down, and Jensen/Kassian stay up in the NHL. Crispy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bodee Posted May 24, 2012 Share Posted May 24, 2012 Couple of reasons why I think we should give are prospects a chance to start the season with the team. - Keslers replacement is not going to come via a trade or a free agent. Who ever steps up to help fill that void is going to have to be from within the organisation. Schroeder has the potential to be a 2nd line center, so why not give him a shot at it for the first month while Kesler is out. -Kassian should not be playing in the AHL next season, hes NHL ready , hes big, can hit, and he can skate, playing in the NHL will help him develop his game better then the AHL. -Jensen is the wild card, out of the forwards, hes the youngest out of the bunch, but hes the favorite to make it among NHL scouts. If the scouts believe hes are best prospect right now, I want too see what he's got. -When it comes to defencemen , I think we should have Gragnani or Tanev alternating out the the bottom 2. With so many young guys starting at forward the Canucks are better off having more veterans playing D. - One of AV's biggest criticisms is not giving prospects any playing time. With his new contract freshly signed maybe it will help get some critics off his back if he did let them start the first 15 games or so. -The start of the season is the best time to be experimenting, it leaves room for them to catch up if there experiment doesn't go well. Besides teams like the Oilers and the Laughs are usually the best teams to start the season anyways. It usually takes teams about 3 months to settle down and figure each other out. -The NHL is getting younger and younger, season after season, the Canucks are not following that trend. Now in days in the cap era, teams need young players with cheap contracts that are able to play at high levels. Hawks won that way , the Bruins too, and Philly was so stacked this year because of all there young guys low salaries(this offseason will be an interesting one for them). - Who knows we may have the next Sean Couturier, Adam Henrique, or Carl Hagelin already in are system. -All I'm saying is at least give are prospects a real chance to shine in the NHL during the first 15 games or so. ______________________________________________________________________________ Here is a lineup i wouldn't mind seeing to start the season or at least until the Luongo(maybe Schneider) trade happens and when Kesler comes back - My main reason to let the kids play........ KEEP LUONGO AND SCHNEIDER..... 1 more year as a tandem, keeping them together gives us are best shot at winning Lord Stanley..... -If not the whole season, keep both of them untill the goalie market really heats up, teams usually know they have goaltending issues when its closer to the all star break. Right now the market is kinda cold especially with Lu's limited no trade clause. CAPGEEK.COM CAP CALCULATOR ROSTER My Custom Lineup FORWARDS Daniel Sedin ($6.100m) /-------- Henrik Sedin ($6.100m) / ---------Alexandre Burrows ($2.000m) David Booth ($4.250m) /-------- Jordan Schroeder ($1.025m) /--- Chris Higgins ($1.900m) Jannik Hansen ($1.350m) / -----Manny Malhotra ($2.500m) /------ Nicklas Jensen ($0.894m) Jordin Tootoo ($1.750m) / ------Maxim Lapierre ($1.000m) /------- Zack Kassian ($0.870m) Ryan Kesler ($5.000m) / Zenon Konopka ($0.800m) DEFENSEMEN Kevin Bieksa ($4.600m) /------------ Dan Hamhuis ($4.500m) Sami Salo ($2.000m) /---------------- Alexander Edler ($3.250m) Jason Garrison ($4.000m) /--------- Chris Tanev ($0.900m) Marc-Andre Gragnani ($1.150m) / GOALTENDERS Roberto Luongo ($5.333m) Cory Schneider ($3.250m) ------ CAPGEEK.COM TOTALS (follow @capgeek on Twitter) (these totals are compiled without the bonus cushion) SALARY CAP: $64,300,000; CAP PAYROLL: $64,522,500; BONUSES: $125,000 CAP SPACE (23-man roster):- $222,500 Ballard Raymond Alberts can be traded for anything Sign Lack, Ebbett, Volpatti and Weise 2 way Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PONCHE Posted May 24, 2012 Share Posted May 24, 2012 ^As far as i'm aware Jensen is able to play eaither wing and Higgins can also play center, dont know about RW tho Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DownUndaCanuck Posted May 24, 2012 Share Posted May 24, 2012 Looks good to me. I really want us to keep both goalies, and with the cap most likely to go up I think that won't be a problem. Salo should take a pay cut though and I don't want to see him have to play top minutes with Edler - he should be reserved for 15 minutes of quality ice time. Instead of Garisson, MG needs to go find a big shutdown, physical defenceman, not another puck moving scorer. Someone like Willie Mitchell, Seabrook, Hamhuis etc. who doesn't focus on offence at all but is great in his own zone and a big physical guy because that's what our defence has lacked the last 2 seasons which has been the main reason we've been ousted by bigger forward units. Schroeder is good but I don't think he's 2nd line material just yet. This is where Hodgson would have fit in seamlessly. Instead I'd like to see this: Sedin - Sedin - Booth (had success together at the end of last season) Higgins - Lapierre - Burrows (ex-Canadiens have great chemistry and the 2 French speakers have shown sparks together too) Hansen - Pahlsson - Jensen (good mix of Danes, grit, speed, youth and experience and size) Schroeder - Malhotra - Kassian (again a good mix of speed, skill, size, grit and experience) Edler - top-4 defenceman Bieksa - Hamhuis Salo - Alberts Tanev Luongo Schneider Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
riffraff Posted May 24, 2012 Share Posted May 24, 2012 Looks good to me. I really want us to keep both goalies, and with the cap most likely to go up I think that won't be a problem. Salo should take a pay cut though and I don't want to see him have to play top minutes with Edler - he should be reserved for 15 minutes of quality ice time. Instead of Garisson, MG needs to go find a big shutdown, physical defenceman, not another puck moving scorer. Someone like Willie Mitchell, Seabrook, Hamhuis etc. who doesn't focus on offence at all but is great in his own zone and a big physical guy because that's what our defence has lacked the last 2 seasons which has been the main reason we've been ousted by bigger forward units. Schroeder is good but I don't think he's 2nd line material just yet. This is where Hodgson would have fit in seamlessly. Instead I'd like to see this: Sedin - Sedin - Booth (had success together at the end of last season) Higgins - Lapierre - Burrows (ex-Canadiens have great chemistry and the 2 French speakers have shown sparks together too) Hansen - Pahlsson - Jensen (good mix of Danes, grit, speed, youth and experience and size) Schroeder - Malhotra - Kassian (again a good mix of speed, skill, size, grit and experience) Edler - top-4 defenceman Bieksa - Hamhuis Salo - Alberts Tanev Luongo Schneider Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dorrcoq Posted May 24, 2012 Share Posted May 24, 2012 the defenseman who really doesnt have much more to prove in the AHL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dorrcoq Posted May 24, 2012 Share Posted May 24, 2012 Sedin - Sedin - Booth (had success together at the end of last season) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. White Posted May 24, 2012 Share Posted May 24, 2012 I really wanna see Jensen play next season. He's gonna be a beast Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CowtownCanuck Posted May 24, 2012 Share Posted May 24, 2012 Just like I was hoping for last year while Kes was out, then can we trade away our talented young players? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Losing With Pride Posted May 24, 2012 Share Posted May 24, 2012 Then with this new youth movement we start the season 2-7-1. Then we miss the playoffs by for 3 points and we blame it to the slow start. AV and Gillis are fired. The world ends. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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