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Tony has been on a campaign to get rid of AV for years...this article is nothing new.Stir the pot,create a scandal out of nothing.When Tony is on the the 1040 pregame show and becomes an 'armchair coach'..it's pretty embarrasing(stick to writing fiction Tony).....

He forgot to mention that by the time we got to the SC finals with our 10/11 dreamteam,we had no Hamhuis ,and Kesler,Ehhrhoff and Edler were badly injured.

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This is one of the best and most honest statements I have ever seen on CDC!

If anything, my complaint about AV is that he doesn't rip his players enough.

You think Torts would p-foot his way around Kesler's season? Darryl Sutter? Yeah, whatever his retarded mumblings you could decifer would almost certainly be sour as well.

Kinda tired of some 'who cares' comment by AV being used as an excuse for certain players to want out. Christ, they're PROS. I never bought that lamebrain argument for a second when it was blamed as Hodgson's reason for wanting out. Horse.

Feed it to someone else. Cheers.

TOML

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FYI : Most canucks fans are aware of Cody's antics during his time here. He had 3 agents in 4 years as a start..were they the problem or perhaps Cody? When Hodgson had a poor camp & preseason he had declared his back to be fine prior to these games...it wasn't until he was sent back down that his back seemed to be an "issue" again. Then...it took How Many doctors to find a cause? Exactly, it took more than 3 specialists to find something....interesting to say the least! Factor in Cody's constant demands for more ice time and meetings with Coach V and GM MG it was apparent that Cody was not willing to earn his time like everyone else including the Sedins, Kesler & Burrows,just to name a few. Cancers in locker rooms grow and grow until everyone is consumed. I applaud our management team ,for making the unpopular but nessessary decision. Facts are facts and these don't lie. Please make your own informed decision and not repeating a sportswriter who has nothing to write about now that hockey is over for the season. He needs readers and will do what it takes to get them.

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AV is a terrible coach and we win games despite of him. He had Bryron Richie playing the point on the PP for us for an entire season. Bryron Ritchie!!! No coach with a brain would do that. He was crap back than and he is still crap now. And yes the turning point of Stanely Cup finals was AV being a moron and not pulling Lu in the third game and destorying the team confidence for the rest of the series. He didn't learn his lesson from game 4 of the Chicago series where his job got save by Burrows. If we run a ‘let the players take ownership’ style of coach than why even have AV? Does he run the best freakin practice drills out there? because he certaining is not motivating his team. Does he have the best strategies? maybe in the regular season but in the playoffs it seems like every team can figure us out once they do their homework on us and AV is known to be slow to adjust. All I see is a coach that gets in the way by making head stratching moves such overplaying Raymond on the top 6, playing Rome, saying stupid shHt about his own players, playing favorites to undeserving players, over playing Pahlsson and getting destoryed by Kopiters line with his stupid line matching in this year's series, refusing give our recent prospects and chance and running them out of town.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tjm7xqlCQYc&feature=g-u-u

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First off: I don't think there's a coach in the world who wouldn't play the Sedins in the offensive zone, or who'd play them less on the powerplay. So, the point he was trying to make about the Sedins loveing AV was just stupid.

Secondly: GUYS! WE CAME ONE WIN AWAY FROM THE CUP! IF OUR OFFENCE HAD SHOWN UP THAT GAME AND WE HAD GOTTEN SOME LUCKY BOUNCES THERE WOULDN'T BE ANY TALK ABOUT AV NOT BEEING GOOD ENOUGH TO COACH US TO A CUP.

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Every time I think Gallagher's reached a new low, he sets a new one. This is atrocious even by his non-standards. I guess the editor-in-chief needed deadline copy, and Tony G shrugged and puked this up in ten minutes.

Whatever would he do without his fave word "amusing". Such a superior twit.

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This is an OP about AV. What exactly are you rambling about?

And what with 28 posts are you qualified to present as facts? So what facts do you have that suggest Hodgson was faking an injury so he could have a whinge about being cut?

There are at least 50 posts about Hodgson. But, FTR, if Hodgson was a distraction, why not send him to the minors, say Feb 1st?. Then put him up for auction. It did not hurt the take Phoenix got for Turris.

I respect what Nashville did with Radulov & Kostitsyn more. Even if it were true, leaking things to the media and slagging him when your being criticized smells.

And did you have an opinion on AV?

FYI : Most canucks fans are aware of Cody's antics during his time here. He had 3 agents in 4 years as a start..were they the problem or perhaps Cody? When Hodgson had a poor camp & preseason he had declared his back to be fine prior to these games...it wasn't until he was sent back down that his back seemed to be an "issue" again. Then...it took How Many doctors to find a cause? Exactly, it took more than 3 specialists to find something....interesting to say the least! Factor in Cody's constant demands for more ice time and meetings with Coach V and GM MG it was apparent that Cody was not willing to earn his time like everyone else including the Sedins, Kesler & Burrows,just to name a few. Cancers in locker rooms grow and grow until everyone is consumed. I applaud our management team ,for making the unpopular but nessessary decision. Facts are facts and these don't lie. Please make your own informed decision and not repeating a sportswriter who has nothing to write about now that hockey is over for the season. He needs readers and will do what it takes to get them.

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I have to keep asking myself why the Hell does the CDC keep listing the Province and it's articles as a source of credible news on the Canucks? The Province is a tabloid, it's nothing more than a glorified blog. It's news is fabricated crap meant to sell papers.

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i agree with your comment about leaving Luongo in. He essential hung him out to dry, and that is the worst thing a coach can do. He is a good coach and if he develops a few variations in his style or his approach we'll be much better off.

One thing that has to be happen, is we need to use our 4th line. This year the 4th line was much better, yet was barely used in the playoffs. All game were close, so it's not as if we HAD to bench the 4th line, but we did anyways? LA beat us in 1-2 games with their 4th line alone! We need a good 4th line, maybe made up of a few young players that are quite gritty? Just get a good 4th line together and use them

However, with saying all of this, you can't exactly put all the blame on AV, just like you can't put blame on our goaltenders. It is a team game and if we don't score we can't win. We've had like 16 goals for in the last 2 playoff series (12 Games) that is a 1.3 average. How are we supposed to win the cup with that terrible result?

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Vigneault is a good coach, in fact he's a great coach... in the regular season. But he is not someone who will win you a Stanley Cup. He'll give you President's Trophies, Western Conference Titles and Division Banners up the ying yang if that's whats important to you. But I thought what we wanted here was a Cup! I really don't care how they get into the playoff's as long as they hoist that shiney silver cup over their heads at the end of it.

Last Year I feel like Vigneault was the single biggest reason we lost in the cup final. He was out coached plain and simple. Something that's become very repetitive over the last few years. You know when the turning point of the series was?? Game 3 at the start of the 2nd period when Loungo skates out and stays in goal after letting in 4. The fact Alain didnt pull him in between periods was ridiculous... RIDICULOUS! Instead of Lou taking a break on the bench and being able to prepare and focus for the next game, what happens? He gets embarrassed and gets pulled later on, destroying his confidence and blows the next game too. That simple decision is what started the downward spiral to another year.. cupless.

He had his chance, we need to move on. I remember at the beginning of this season after Mac T was hired "everyone" was saying this was Alains last chance and anything less than a Stanley Cup final showing means he would get the axe. What happened to that? How many more chances does this man get?

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Every time I think Gallagher's reached a new low, he sets a new one. This is atrocious even by his non-standards. I guess the editor-in-chief needed deadline copy, and Tony G shrugged and puked this up in ten minutes.

Whatever would he do without his fave word "amusing". Such a superior twit.

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Guys are always in denial when nagging injuries first start.

But guys don't skip whole seasons because they want to show up the coach who cut him. Your on the wrong side of logic.

AV did look bad when it turned Hodgson had an injury. He looks worse this time when he absolutely knew Kesler needed surgery.

But everybody needs to keep their composure. T.O.M.L suggested Kess could not expect anything but to get ripped to shreds for his performance by Torterella if he was coach, same with Sutter. Kesler had his agent crybaby dot public. He did it now, and he did it when AV called him out for not using his line mates. Maybe we should trade him for an unproven rookie who still needs two years.

They have very convenient memories as well. I love this part which I see parroted here all the time.....

"just as Cody Hodgson and his camp were not amused when Dr. Vigneault essentially suggested the player had no significant health problems but was using them as an excuse for a poor performance in his first camp. Later examinations found the back problem and once it was fixed Hodgson eventually became a productive member of the team"

Now the media was all over Hodgson from prospect camp right through the preseason. Cody's comments about his back went like this....

Prospect camp: Back feels fine.

Regular camp: No problem, feels good.

Preseason: It's good, no problems at all

Cut from team: Oh, my back!

What is AV supposed to think? It sure sounded like he was making an excuse at the time. Of course Cody had well over a million reason$ to lie about how his back was throughout that time while trying to make the team. Perhaps the whole process would have been sped up had he been honest in the first place about how his back was.

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Just because the coach has signed a contract doesn't mean he's locked in for 3 years.

I'm pretty sure if the Canucks went 0-30 to start the season, great history or not, AV or any coach would get canned.

I'm pretty sure despite the extension AV is on a short(er) leash, and there's more pressure to get things done in the playoffs next year.

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Who cares? Most of the article is speculation and I would never put much stock in it.

Plus AV was right in saying Kesler's injury was no excuse. We don't need a team of excuse makers, we need people to give us results. Every single team battles through injuries on the way to and through the playoffs, the teams that learn to deal with it are successful.

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I think that if this was a REAL problem then Gillis would have fired AV or at least he would not have resigned him. Gillis is an Ex- Player agent so his reaction to his players being called out unjustly would be to defend them, not bring back the problem.

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It's sad but AV will never get the recognition and appreciation that he deserves from the fans until he's gone. I understand the arguments with respect to thinking his time in Vancouver is over and that the team might need some new blood to shake things up, but anyone who says he's a joke or a bad coach is not watching the games.

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