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#61 oldnews

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Posted 24 May 2012 - 11:29 PM

someone call an exorcist - Gallagher is at it again....

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Posted 25 May 2012 - 12:09 AM

Tony has been on a campaign to get rid of AV for years...this article is nothing new.Stir the pot,create a scandal out of nothing.When Tony is on the the 1040 pregame show and becomes an 'armchair coach'..it's pretty embarrasing(stick to writing fiction Tony).....

He forgot to mention that by the time we got to the SC finals with our 10/11 dreamteam,we had no Hamhuis ,and Kesler,Ehhrhoff and Edler were badly injured.

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Posted 25 May 2012 - 01:00 AM

This is one of the best and most honest statements I have ever seen on CDC!

If anything, my complaint about AV is that he doesn't rip his players enough.

You think Torts would p-foot his way around Kesler's season? Darryl Sutter? Yeah, whatever his retarded mumblings you could decifer would almost certainly be sour as well.

Kinda tired of some 'who cares' comment by AV being used as an excuse for certain players to want out. Christ, they're PROS. I never bought that lamebrain argument for a second when it was blamed as Hodgson's reason for wanting out. Horse.

Feed it to someone else. Cheers.


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Yip, I dont think you can shoot the coach!

Hogwash! The reason we lost in last years Stanley Cup final is because the first and second lines were so banged up that they couldn't get it done against a bigger team plus the fact that we were fighting an uphill battle because the refs would not make the calls. This year again, we came up against a bigger team who just smothered us.
If AV is a defensive coach, why did we get so many goals scored on us? You have to have a reasonably healthy team to win the Cup and maybe when the Canucks get some bigger players, we will be knocking on the door just as healthy as the opposition. Kesler needed shoulder surgery this year......, no one can claim that didn't effect his shot and on that , I totally disagree with AV but hey it may his way of challenging Kesler to come back healthy and firing on all cylinders.
AV is a good coach, MG is a great GM....they will work this thing out and put together a winning team.
I am looking forward to seeing what MG can pull off to spin our existing assets into players that are the missing pieces.


Hey, we had the WCE for what, 4 years, the Twins on the 2knd line plus Ohlund and company to back them. That was a good team, just a goaltender away?

Fark, we had Pavel Bure, plus pieces like Courtnall, Babych, LINDEN, Mogilny, Lume, MacLean... That was also a brilliant team. Sorry, I cannot go farther than that. I was a Jets fan before then. But I thought that team would win a cup!

Where the West Coast Express lacked a goal tender, last year we lacked physical size. Ultimately, it led to our undoing as we broke down under the physical weight of size miss-matches beating (literally) the crap out of us. This year, same problem just exercised sooner.

AV IMO has gotten us as far as we deserved each year.

I know its going to ring hollow, but he even got us a Presidents Cup last year when Lou, Kesler, Daniel Sedin, Henrik Sedin all had off years. And our best defender from the year before was traded. Who wins the best record in the league when EVERYBODY has an off year???

The coach aint that bad!

Gallagher and Botchford are terrible for 'The Province'. This guys love to just stir the pot and create controversy. But that is their job - writing in a hockey hungry market, they have to write about something.


But on the actual topic of AV:

Everyone take a deep breath and let's take a look at what's going on.

Good:

- AV has the most wins out of any Canucks coach (this has to do in part with the players he has - the last 5 years are arguably the best 'teams' we've had as a franchise. But it still takes a good coach to make things work

- Won the Jack Adams (coach of the year)

- back to back 50 win seasons

- 1 Stanley Cup appearance - came to within one game. And obviously if that game had gone our way, we wouldn't be having this convo!

These are pretty good 'stats' for a coach. If AV didn't sign, he would have been snatched up by someone else. If someone else was out there that MG believe would have suited the team better - he obviously would have gone that direction.

Many many Canuck fans are so fickle - let's be realistic here people. AV is one hek of coach and of course like other coaches/players/management etc he'll have weaknesses too! For some reason a lot of us Canuck fans think we're gonna be in the cup final every year now. Doesn't work that way folks!

I was highly disappointed after the loss to LA - but you look at them now and you realize how good they're playing and how crappy we played. that leads me to the bad..

Bad:

Player/coach relationships - this one is tricky, AV doesn't like to be all fuzzy/wuzzy with his players and act as their best friends. He gives them the dressing room.
- His calling out may be a means of motivating players, but sometimes it feels like there are adverse effects.
- He's honest and apparently we think this hurts players feelings - these guys are professional athletes, they should know how to deal with it.

There's probably more that people will put down - something about rookies, or whatever.

Overall, he's a good coach. And he has to work on some things like others do.

Good move MG



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Posted 25 May 2012 - 01:34 AM

FYI : Most canucks fans are aware of Cody's antics during his time here. He had 3 agents in 4 years as a start..were they the problem or perhaps Cody? When Hodgson had a poor camp & preseason he had declared his back to be fine prior to these games...it wasn't until he was sent back down that his back seemed to be an "issue" again. Then...it took How Many doctors to find a cause? Exactly, it took more than 3 specialists to find something....interesting to say the least! Factor in Cody's constant demands for more ice time and meetings with Coach V and GM MG it was apparent that Cody was not willing to earn his time like everyone else including the Sedins, Kesler & Burrows,just to name a few. Cancers in locker rooms grow and grow until everyone is consumed. I applaud our management team ,for making the unpopular but nessessary decision. Facts are facts and these don't lie. Please make your own informed decision and not repeating a sportswriter who has nothing to write about now that hockey is over for the season. He needs readers and will do what it takes to get them.

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Posted 25 May 2012 - 01:35 AM

AV is a terrible coach and we win games despite of him. He had Bryron Richie playing the point on the PP for us for an entire season. Bryron Ritchie!!! No coach with a brain would do that. He was crap back than and he is still crap now. And yes the turning point of Stanely Cup finals was AV being a moron and not pulling Lu in the third game and destorying the team confidence for the rest of the series. He didn't learn his lesson from game 4 of the Chicago series where his job got save by Burrows. If we run a ‘let the players take ownership’ style of coach than why even have AV? Does he run the best freakin practice drills out there? because he certaining is not motivating his team. Does he have the best strategies? maybe in the regular season but in the playoffs it seems like every team can figure us out once they do their homework on us and AV is known to be slow to adjust. All I see is a coach that gets in the way by making head stratching moves such overplaying Raymond on the top 6, playing Rome, saying stupid shHt about his own players, playing favorites to undeserving players, over playing Pahlsson and getting destoryed by Kopiters line with his stupid line matching in this year's series, refusing give our recent prospects and chance and running them out of town.

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Posted 25 May 2012 - 02:23 AM

First off: I don't think there's a coach in the world who wouldn't play the Sedins in the offensive zone, or who'd play them less on the powerplay. So, the point he was trying to make about the Sedins loveing AV was just stupid.

Secondly: GUYS! WE CAME ONE WIN AWAY FROM THE CUP! IF OUR OFFENCE HAD SHOWN UP THAT GAME AND WE HAD GOTTEN SOME LUCKY BOUNCES THERE WOULDN'T BE ANY TALK ABOUT AV NOT BEEING GOOD ENOUGH TO COACH US TO A CUP.

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Posted 25 May 2012 - 02:25 AM

Every time I think Gallagher's reached a new low, he sets a new one. This is atrocious even by his non-standards. I guess the editor-in-chief needed deadline copy, and Tony G shrugged and puked this up in ten minutes.

Whatever would he do without his fave word "amusing". Such a superior twit.

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Posted 25 May 2012 - 04:15 AM

This is an OP about AV. What exactly are you rambling about?

And what with 28 posts are you qualified to present as facts? So what facts do you have that suggest Hodgson was faking an injury so he could have a whinge about being cut?

There are at least 50 posts about Hodgson. But, FTR, if Hodgson was a distraction, why not send him to the minors, say Feb 1st?. Then put him up for auction. It did not hurt the take Phoenix got for Turris.

I respect what Nashville did with Radulov & Kostitsyn more. Even if it were true, leaking things to the media and slagging him when your being criticized smells.

And did you have an opinion on AV?

FYI : Most canucks fans are aware of Cody's antics during his time here. He had 3 agents in 4 years as a start..were they the problem or perhaps Cody? When Hodgson had a poor camp & preseason he had declared his back to be fine prior to these games...it wasn't until he was sent back down that his back seemed to be an "issue" again. Then...it took How Many doctors to find a cause? Exactly, it took more than 3 specialists to find something....interesting to say the least! Factor in Cody's constant demands for more ice time and meetings with Coach V and GM MG it was apparent that Cody was not willing to earn his time like everyone else including the Sedins, Kesler & Burrows,just to name a few. Cancers in locker rooms grow and grow until everyone is consumed. I applaud our management team ,for making the unpopular but nessessary decision. Facts are facts and these don't lie. Please make your own informed decision and not repeating a sportswriter who has nothing to write about now that hockey is over for the season. He needs readers and will do what it takes to get them.


Edited by Canuck Surfer, 25 May 2012 - 04:24 AM.


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Posted 25 May 2012 - 04:30 AM

I have to keep asking myself why the Hell does the CDC keep listing the Province and it's articles as a source of credible news on the Canucks? The Province is a tabloid, it's nothing more than a glorified blog. It's news is fabricated crap meant to sell papers.

Edited by rbcanucks87, 25 May 2012 - 04:34 AM.


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Posted 25 May 2012 - 04:51 AM

i agree with your comment about leaving Luongo in. He essential hung him out to dry, and that is the worst thing a coach can do. He is a good coach and if he develops a few variations in his style or his approach we'll be much better off.

One thing that has to be happen, is we need to use our 4th line. This year the 4th line was much better, yet was barely used in the playoffs. All game were close, so it's not as if we HAD to bench the 4th line, but we did anyways? LA beat us in 1-2 games with their 4th line alone! We need a good 4th line, maybe made up of a few young players that are quite gritty? Just get a good 4th line together and use them


However, with saying all of this, you can't exactly put all the blame on AV, just like you can't put blame on our goaltenders. It is a team game and if we don't score we can't win. We've had like 16 goals for in the last 2 playoff series (12 Games) that is a 1.3 average. How are we supposed to win the cup with that terrible result?

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Posted 25 May 2012 - 05:17 AM

Vigneault is a good coach, in fact he's a great coach... in the regular season. But he is not someone who will win you a Stanley Cup. He'll give you President's Trophies, Western Conference Titles and Division Banners up the ying yang if that's whats important to you. But I thought what we wanted here was a Cup! I really don't care how they get into the playoff's as long as they hoist that shiney silver cup over their heads at the end of it.


Last Year I feel like Vigneault was the single biggest reason we lost in the cup final. He was out coached plain and simple. Something that's become very repetitive over the last few years. You know when the turning point of the series was?? Game 3 at the start of the 2nd period when Loungo skates out and stays in goal after letting in 4. The fact Alain didnt pull him in between periods was ridiculous... RIDICULOUS! Instead of Lou taking a break on the bench and being able to prepare and focus for the next game, what happens? He gets embarrassed and gets pulled later on, destroying his confidence and blows the next game too. That simple decision is what started the downward spiral to another year.. cupless.


He had his chance, we need to move on. I remember at the beginning of this season after Mac T was hired "everyone" was saying this was Alains last chance and anything less than a Stanley Cup final showing means he would get the axe. What happened to that? How many more chances does this man get?


Funny, here I thought the biggest reason was....

Henrik: playing injured (back)
Samuelsson: out
Raymond: out
Kesler: playing injured (shoulder & hip)
Higgins: playing injured (ankle)
Malhotra: out/playing injured (eye)
Edler: playing injured (broken fingers)
Ehrhoff: playing injured (shoulder)
Hamhuis: out (hernia)
Bieksa: playing injured (knee)
Rome: out (suspended)

I don't care if your coach is God almighty. That's a mighty mountain of key injuries to overcome.

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Posted 25 May 2012 - 05:33 AM

Every time I think Gallagher's reached a new low, he sets a new one. This is atrocious even by his non-standards. I guess the editor-in-chief needed deadline copy, and Tony G shrugged and puked this up in ten minutes.

Whatever would he do without his fave word "amusing". Such a superior twit.


They have very convenient memories as well. I love this part which I see parroted here all the time.....

"just as Cody Hodgson and his camp were not amused when Dr. Vigneault essentially suggested the player had no significant health problems but was using them as an excuse for a poor performance in his first camp. Later examinations found the back problem and once it was fixed Hodgson eventually became a productive member of the team"

Now the media was all over Hodgson from prospect camp right through the preseason. Cody's comments about his back went like this....

Prospect camp: Back feels fine.
Regular camp: No problem, feels good.
Preseason: It's good, no problems at all
Cut from team: Oh, my back!

What is AV supposed to think? It sure sounded like he was making an excuse at the time. Of course Cody had well over a million reason$ to lie about how his back was throughout that time while trying to make the team. Perhaps the whole process would have been sped up had he been honest in the first place about how his back was.

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Posted 25 May 2012 - 06:01 AM

Gallagher is a freeking joke. He's as bad as Damien Cox! Whenever I wee his name I just think about how he got schooled by Shawn Thornton in that radio interview.

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Posted 25 May 2012 - 07:01 AM

Awesome.

If his "charm" splits the locker room it just goes to show that they truely need that sports psychologist to be able to play every night.

(Yay only three more years of AV threads.)

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Posted 25 May 2012 - 07:07 AM

Guys are always in denial when nagging injuries first start.

But guys don't skip whole seasons because they want to show up the coach who cut him. Your on the wrong side of logic.

AV did look bad when it turned Hodgson had an injury. He looks worse this time when he absolutely knew Kesler needed surgery.

But everybody needs to keep their composure. T.O.M.L suggested Kess could not expect anything but to get ripped to shreds for his performance by Torterella if he was coach, same with Sutter. Kesler had his agent crybaby dot public. He did it now, and he did it when AV called him out for not using his line mates. Maybe we should trade him for an unproven rookie who still needs two years.

They have very convenient memories as well. I love this part which I see parroted here all the time.....

"just as Cody Hodgson and his camp were not amused when Dr. Vigneault essentially suggested the player had no significant health problems but was using them as an excuse for a poor performance in his first camp. Later examinations found the back problem and once it was fixed Hodgson eventually became a productive member of the team"

Now the media was all over Hodgson from prospect camp right through the preseason. Cody's comments about his back went like this....

Prospect camp: Back feels fine.
Regular camp: No problem, feels good.
Preseason: It's good, no problems at all
Cut from team: Oh, my back!

What is AV supposed to think? It sure sounded like he was making an excuse at the time. Of course Cody had well over a million reason$ to lie about how his back was throughout that time while trying to make the team. Perhaps the whole process would have been sped up had he been honest in the first place about how his back was.



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Posted 25 May 2012 - 07:43 AM

Just because the coach has signed a contract doesn't mean he's locked in for 3 years.

I'm pretty sure if the Canucks went 0-30 to start the season, great history or not, AV or any coach would get canned.

I'm pretty sure despite the extension AV is on a short(er) leash, and there's more pressure to get things done in the playoffs next year.
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Posted 25 May 2012 - 08:15 AM

That's not writing. It's typing.

Snake Doctor, on 23 May 2014 - 10:41 AM, said:snapback.png

Miller is not on our list. It's Lack as our #1. There is no reason we would have traded both Schnieder and Luongo if we never intended to give Lack the #1 starting job.  Furthermore, the salary and term Miller is looking for is not in our favor.

 


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Posted 25 May 2012 - 08:32 AM

Who cares? Most of the article is speculation and I would never put much stock in it.

Plus AV was right in saying Kesler's injury was no excuse. We don't need a team of excuse makers, we need people to give us results. Every single team battles through injuries on the way to and through the playoffs, the teams that learn to deal with it are successful.

I like AV's take on Kesler, yeah he was hurt, he needed surgery, but he could still play at a 100%, or enough to reproduce at the level he did the year before. That's crazy talk, it's contradictory, and he was directly responsible for letting Kesler come back to early. It's like he doesn't seem to realize he's in charge of injuries or how to handle them. First Kesler and then with Daniel Sedin he admitted he competely blew that as well.

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Posted 25 May 2012 - 08:37 AM

I think that if this was a REAL problem then Gillis would have fired AV or at least he would not have resigned him. Gillis is an Ex- Player agent so his reaction to his players being called out unjustly would be to defend them, not bring back the problem.

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Posted 25 May 2012 - 08:40 AM

It's sad but AV will never get the recognition and appreciation that he deserves from the fans until he's gone. I understand the arguments with respect to thinking his time in Vancouver is over and that the team might need some new blood to shake things up, but anyone who says he's a joke or a bad coach is not watching the games.

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Posted 25 May 2012 - 09:31 AM

[left]

Funny, here I thought the biggest reason was....

Henrik: playing injured (back)
Samuelsson: out
Raymond: out
Kesler: playing injured (shoulder & hip)
Higgins: playing injured (ankle)
Malhotra: out/playing injured (eye)
Edler: playing injured (broken fingers)
Ehrhoff: playing injured (shoulder)
Hamhuis: out (hernia)
Bieksa: playing injured (knee)
Rome: out (suspended)

I don't care if your coach is God almighty. That's a mighty mountain of key injuries to overcome.


come on Baggins - stop being reasonable here - how are people supposed to blame everything on AV's alleged shortcomings if you go bringing the actual context into the discussion...

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Posted 25 May 2012 - 09:34 AM

They have very convenient memories as well. I love this part which I see parroted here all the time.....

"just as Cody Hodgson and his camp were not amused when Dr. Vigneault essentially suggested the player had no significant health problems but was using them as an excuse for a poor performance in his first camp. Later examinations found the back problem and once it was fixed Hodgson eventually became a productive member of the team"

Now the media was all over Hodgson from prospect camp right through the preseason. Cody's comments about his back went like this....

Prospect camp: Back feels fine.
Regular camp: No problem, feels good.
Preseason: It's good, no problems at all
Cut from team: Oh, my back!

What is AV supposed to think? It sure sounded like he was making an excuse at the time. Of course Cody had well over a million reason$ to lie about how his back was throughout that time while trying to make the team. Perhaps the whole process would have been sped up had he been honest in the first place about how his back was.


ditto

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Posted 25 May 2012 - 09:45 AM

You guys should stop hating on TG, he's clearly gravely ill. When he's on sportsnet it looks like he's going to fall over any second and when he writes it shows whatever meds he's on is making him delusional. We need to be sending positive vibes his way not this negative crap.
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Posted 25 May 2012 - 10:12 AM

[left]

Funny, here I thought the biggest reason was....

Henrik: playing injured (back)
Samuelsson: out
Raymond: out
Kesler: playing injured (shoulder & hip)
Higgins: playing injured (ankle)
Malhotra: out/playing injured (eye)
Edler: playing injured (broken fingers)
Ehrhoff: playing injured (shoulder)
Hamhuis: out (hernia)
Bieksa: playing injured (knee)
Rome: out (suspended)

I don't care if your coach is God almighty. That's a mighty mountain of key injuries to overcome.


There were no injuries on the Boston side?
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Posted 25 May 2012 - 10:21 AM

benefit of the doubt answer:

His real answer is that he thinks Kesler could have played through it, and that is probably what Kesler said at the time. The production was low, I'll bet he didn't want to start talking about how Kesler doesn't have wingers to play with who can produce, which is probably what he was thinking. So he obfuscated as best he could but it didn't work. Bet that he has talked to Kesler since to clear the air. Truth is Kesler could have contributed lots of points anyways if he had anyone to play with. IE. Put a legit top-6 winger with him, and see what happens.

Booth was a failure last year. Showed signs of potential for fairly significant stretches, but instead of breaking through at the end of the stretches he either tailed off or got injured. Kind of like Ballard. (We need these 2 to be a lot better to have a chance next year! Especially as we are stuck with them!)

And Raymond was dismal. Didn't even show signs of breaking through. The team just isn't going to win with someone like that taking up a top-6 spot. Whatever happened to playing-time by merit? If he was injured, let him get his game back on the 4th line or at practice until he can play at a level where he makes a real contribution. (ie. keep him bottom 6 if all he does is defend, er, whatever he was doing on that goal against la... ya)

I still feel the AMEX line could have worked if they had stuck with it. It WAS WORKING for a few weeks there, it is really weird how they never gave them another chance.

But give Kesler 2 players who can score 20-25 goals and 30-40 assists and you've got something.

As far as TG: He has good opinions most of the time, no doubt that AV needs PR coaching of some kind.

Edited by canucksnihilist, 25 May 2012 - 10:22 AM.


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Posted 25 May 2012 - 11:39 AM

I'm not really sure why everyone keeps insisting the turning point in the Boston series was leaving Luongo in for all of those goals. First, do you guys remember how many defensive blunders the team made in game 4? I think every goal in the game except for 1 was directly tied to a big mistake defensively, I'm not sure how you could pin them on Luongo (if you believe leaving him in for all of those goals caused his play).

Second, the team took a 3-2 lead after game 5. If game 3 was the turning point it doesn't really make much sense because they still managed to take a lead. Usually, a turning point means the team has entirely lost control, think back to the Mats Sundin season when the Canucks blew the 1-0 lead late against Chicago and lost that game in OT. They never recovered from that.

Edited by iLLmAtlc, 25 May 2012 - 11:43 AM.

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Posted 25 May 2012 - 12:06 PM

There were no injuries on the Boston side?


Nathan Horton. But he isn't the Bruins' top 2 centermen, nor their best shut-down defenseman.

Besides, the B's actually lost the 2 games that he did play in...
Orland Kurtenbach and Dennis Kearns had just been torched 8-1 by the Habs, but they still took time to come out to meet us, some fellow BC boys who were playing hockey in Montreal. THAT"S what being a Canuck is!

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Posted 25 May 2012 - 12:14 PM

It seems for the past few years the Province Sports only creates non-exsistant contraversy when covering the Canucks. I understand the newspaper business is not generating the same type of revenues as years before, but you will eventually lose all credability with the public after a while. When these same reportes talk in television interviews they do not say the same thing as their written articles in the paper the next day.
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Posted 25 May 2012 - 12:27 PM

Ever since the Stanley Cup run I've been unimpressed with the Vancouver media. I understand they have a job to do. And there is an insatiable lust for ink on the Canucks. But, they yank the uninformed masses around by their impressionable noses.

There was a time when the Province was a must read for me. Now I check the Sun first, and even they write mostly knee-jerk, re-hashed baloney. If it weren't for Pass it to Bulis there might not be anything worth reading.

That said. The Province and Sun guys do have press credentials and a modicum of insider knowledge. It is hard to know what is true and what is supposition.

The main problem is...and it's scary...Tony Gallagher has been right before!

AAAAaaaaaaaa!!!!!

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Posted 25 May 2012 - 12:58 PM

AV is a terrible coach and we win games despite of him. He had Bryron Richie playing the point on the PP for us for an entire season. Bryron Ritchie!!! No coach with a brain would do that. He was crap back than and he is still crap now. And yes the turning point of Stanely Cup finals was AV being a moron and not pulling Lu in the third game and destorying the team confidence for the rest of the series. He didn't learn his lesson from game 4 of the Chicago series where his job got save by Burrows. If we run a ‘let the players take ownership’ style of coach than why even have AV? Does he run the best freakin practice drills out there? because he certaining is not motivating his team. Does he have the best strategies? maybe in the regular season but in the playoffs it seems like every team can figure us out once they do their homework on us and AV is known to be slow to adjust. All I see is a coach that gets in the way by making head stratching moves such overplaying Raymond on the top 6, playing Rome, saying stupid shHt about his own players, playing favorites to undeserving players, over playing Pahlsson and getting destoryed by Kopiters line with his stupid line matching in this year's series, refusing give our recent prospects and chance and running them out of town.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tjm7xqlCQYc&feature=g-u-u

Terrible , AV said he had a off season and then Gino Reda twists it to say that AV was saying he had a bad playoffs . Look the injury happen in February ( approx 50 games or so ) Kesler was not producing like the previous season already by then so how can you say his shoulder was the reason up to that point?

The media is so desperate to create a story and Gino Reda can be added to that list of false reporting
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