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Posted 25 May 2012 - 05:04 PM

This might explain the fairly recent PR disasters such as the soldiers pissing on corpses or posing with them. I am glad they are going for quality instead of quantity.

US Army more selective on recruits, re-enlistments

By LOLITA C. BALDOR, Associated Press – 3 days ago

WASHINGTON (AP) — Uncle Sam may not want you after all.

In sharp contrast to the peak years of the Iraq and Afghanistan wars, the Army last year took in no recruits with misconduct convictions or drug or alcohol issues, according to internal documents obtained by The Associated Press. And soldiers already serving on active duty now must meet tougher standards to stay on for further tours in uniform.

The Army is also spending hundreds of thousands of dollars less in bonuses to attract recruits or entice soldiers to remain.

It's all part of an effort to slash the size of the active duty Army from about 570,000 at the height of the Iraq war to 490,000 by 2017. The cutbacks began last year, and as of the end of March the Army was down to less than 558,000 troops.

For a time during the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, the Army lowered its recruiting standards, raising the number of recruits who entered the Army with moral, medical and criminal — including felony — waivers.
Recruits with misdemeanors, which could range from petty theft and writing bad checks to assault, were allowed into the Army, as well as those with some medical problems or low aptitude scores that might otherwise have disqualified them.

A very small fraction of recruits had waivers for felonies, which included convictions for manslaughter, vehicular homicide, robbery and a handful of sex crimes. The sex crimes often involved consensual sex when one of the individuals was under 18.

In 2006, about 20 percent of new Army recruits came in under some type of waiver, and by the next year it had grown to nearly three in 10. After the Defense Department issued new guidelines, the percentage needing waivers started to come down in 2009.

Now, as the Army moves to reduce its force, some soldiers will have to leave.

Officials say they hope to make cuts largely through voluntary attrition. But Gen. Ray Odierno, the Army chief of staff, has warned that as much as 35 percent of the cuts will be "involuntary" ones that force soldiers to abandon what they had hoped would be long military careers.

"This is going to be hard," said Gen. David Rodriguez, head of U.S. Army Forces Command. "This is tough business. As we increase things like re-enlistment standards, some of the people who were able to re-enlist three years ago won't be able to re-enlist again."

The Army, in an internal slide presentation, is blunt: "Re-enlistment is a privilege, not a right; some 'fully qualified' soldiers will be denied re-enlistment due to force realignment requirements and reductions in end strength."

In a memo earlier this year, Army Secretary John McHugh laid out more stringent criteria for denying re-enlistment, including rules that would turn away soldiers who have gotten a letter of reprimand for a recent incident involving the use of drugs or alcohol, or some soldiers who were unable to qualify for a promotion list.

"It's all focused on allowing us ... to retain only those soldiers who have the right skills, the right attributes and who help us meet the requirements and are those soldiers which truly have the greatest potential," said Army Brig. Gen. Richard P. Mustion, the Army's director of military personnel management.

Last year, as the budget and personnel cuts began to take hold, just a bit more than 10 percent of Army recruits needed waivers to join. The bulk of those — about 7 percent — were medical waivers, which can include poor eyesight that can be corrected. About 3 percent were for misconduct that did not involve convictions.

The decline in recent years was almost entirely on conduct waivers, not medical. As an example, there were 189 recruits with "major misconduct" waivers last year, and none with criminal convictions, compared to 546 misconduct waivers in 2009 and 220 with convictions.

Mustion said that as Army recruiters look at the applicants coming in they "are truly able to identify the very best soldiers, future soldiers, and those who display the greatest potential."

He said they are evaluating each one on his physical, academic and aptitude test performances "and, quite frankly, would they require a waiver to come into the military versus the next soldier who has the same credentials but wouldn't require a waiver."

Waivers have long been a source of debate. Military officials have defended the process, saying it allows good people who once made a minor mistake to enlist. But mid-level officers serving in Iraq and Afghanistan also told top defense officials that the dramatic rise in the number of bad-behavior waivers was a problem, that they were often spending too much time on "problem children."

. Steven Dale Green, a former 101st Airborne Division soldier, came into the Army on a morals waiver because of an earlier problem with drugs. He is now serving five life terms for killing an Iraqi family and raping and killing the 14-year-old daughter in March 2006.

With the economy struggling, it's still a recruit-rich environment. But Army officials worry that as the economy gets better, they may not get all the high quality recruits they need, and their best soldiers may decide not to re-enlist because they may do better in the corporate world.
For now, however, the Army is saving money in the process.

According to Mustion, soldiers in just six types of jobs are getting bonuses when they enlist: interpreter/translators, divers, cryptologic linguists, medical laboratory specialists and explosive ordnance disposal specialists. And those bonuses average about $3,300-$3,500, he said.

That is a steep drop from the $16,000-$18,000 bonuses the Army was paying on average to new recruits in 2007-08. In the fiscal year ending Sept. 30, 2008, the Army paid nearly $860,000 in enlistment bonuses, compared to just $77,000 in the 2011 fiscal year.

Re-enlistment bonuses for soldiers now average about $7,500-$7,700.

Military leaders say the key goal is to shape the force as they cut, winnowing out not only the lesser qualified, but keeping the right number of soldiers in critical jobs and all across the ranks, particularly the mid-level officers.

"We need to keep the right balance," said Rodriguez. "We don't want a well-modernized force with no personnel that are trained."
The Army, he said, "can build a young soldier quickly, but we can't build a major and a sergeant quickly. So we have to figure out the right ratios as we move forward, and we have to be able to expand if we need to."
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Here is an article from 2008.

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The U.S. Army lowers recruitment standards … again.

By Fred Kaplan|Posted Thursday, Jan. 24, 2008, at 5:25 PM ET



The Army is lowering recruitment standards to levels not seen in at least two decades, and the implications are severe—not only for the future of the Army, but also for the direction of U.S. foreign policy.



The latest statistics—compiled by the Defense Department. and obtained through the Freedom of Information Act by the Boston-based National Priorities Project—are grim. They show that the percentage of new Army recruits with high-school diplomas has plunged from 94 percent in 2003 to 83.5 percent in 2005 to 70.7 percent in 2007. (The Pentagon's longstanding goal is 90 percent.)



The percentage of what the Army calls "high-quality" recruits—those who have high-school diplomas and who score in the upper 50th percentile on the Armed Forces' aptitude tests—has declined from 56.2 percent in 2005 to 44.6 percent in 2007.



In order to meet recruitment targets, the Army has even had to scour the bottom of the barrel. There used to be a regulation that no more than 2 percent of all recruits could be "Category IV"—defined as applicants who score in the 10th to 30th percentile on the aptitude tests. In 2004, just 0.6 percent of new soldiers scored so low. In 2005, as the Army had a hard time recruiting, the cap was raised to 4 percent. And in 2007, according to the new data, the Army exceeded even that limit—4.1 percent of new recruits last year were Cat IVs.



These trends are worrisome in at least four ways.



First, and most broadly, it's not a good idea—for a host of social, political, and moral reasons—to place the burdens of national defense so disproportionately on the most downtrodden citizens.



Second, and more practically, high-school dropouts tend to drop out of the military, too. The National Priorities Project cites Army studies finding that 80 percent of high-school graduates finish their first terms of enlistment in the Army—compared with only about half of those with a General Equivalency Degree or no diploma. In other words, taking in more dropouts is a short-sighted method of boosting recruitment numbers. The Army will just have to recruit even more young men and women in the next couple of years, because a lot of the ones they recruited last year will need to be replaced.



Third, a dumber army is a weaker army. A study by the RAND Corporation, commissioned by the Pentagon and published in 2005, evaluated several factors that affect military performance—experience, training, aptitude, and so forth—and found that aptitude is key. This was true even of basic combat skills, such as shooting straight. Replacing a tank gunner who had scored Category IV with one who'd scored Category IIIA (in the 50th to 64th percentile) improved the chances of hitting a target by 34 percent.


Today's Army, of course, is much more high-tech, from top to bottom. The problem is that when tasks get more technical, aptitude makes an even bigger difference. In one Army study cited by the RAND report, three-man teams from the Army's active-duty signal battalions were told to make a communications system operational. Teams consisting of Category IIIA personnel had a 67 percent chance of succeeding. Teams with Category IIIB soldiers (who had ranked in the 31st to 49th percentile) had a 47 percent chance. Those with Category IVs had only a 29 percent chance. The study also showed that adding a high-scoring soldier to a three-man team increased its chance of success by 8 percent. (This also means that adding a low-scoring soldier to a team reduces its chance by a similar margin.)



Fourth, today's Army needs particularly bright soldiers—and it needs, even more, to weed out particularly dim ones—given the direction that at least some of its senior officers want it to take. When the Army was geared to fight large-scaled battles against enemies of comparable strength, imaginative thinking wasn't much required except at a command level. However, now that it's focusing on "asymmetric warfare," especially counterinsurgency campaigns, such as those in Iraq and Afghanistan, the requirements are different. The crucial engagements—in many ways, the crucial decisions—take place in the streets, door to door, not by armored divisions or brigades but by infantry companies and squads. And when the targets include hearts and minds, every soldier's judgment and actions have an impact.




The Army's 2006 <a data-linktype="Internal" href="http://www.slate.com...2145175/">field manual on counterinsurgency, which was supervised by Gen. David Petraeus (who is now trying to put its principles into action as U.S. commander in Iraq), emphasized that successful counterinsurgency operations "require Soldiers and Marines at every echelon to possess the following"—and then the authors recite a daunting list of prerequisites, including a "clear, nuanced, and empathetic appreciation of the essential nature of the conflict," an "understanding of the motivation, strengths, and weaknesses of the insurgent," rudimentary knowledge of the local culture, and several other admirable qualities.



Some of the officers and outside specialists who helped Petraeus write the field manual expressed concerns to me, at the time, that the Army—which was just beginning to lower its standards—might not be up to the demands of this kind of warfare. Given that standards have dipped quite dramatically since—and add to that the problems the Army has had in retaining its most talented junior officers—the concerns now must be graver.



It's well-known that the Army might not have enough combat troops to conduct sustained counterinsurgency campaigns. Now it seems the problem may soon be about quality as well as quantity (brains as well as boots).



The main reason for the decline in standards is the war in Iraq and its onerous "operations tempo"—soldiers going back for third and fourth tours of duty, with no end in sight. This is well understood among senior officers, and it's a major reason why several Army generals favor a faster withdrawal rate. They worry that fewer young men and women—and now it seems fewer smart young men and women—will sign up if doing so means a guaranteed assignment to Iraq. They worry that, if these trends continue, the Army itself will start to crumble.



So, there's a double spiral in effect. The war keeps more good soldiers from enlisting. The lack of good candidates compels the Army to recruit more bad candidates. The swelling ranks of ill-suited soldiers make it harder to fight these kinds of wars effectively.



Petraeus and officers who think like him are right: We're probably not going to be fighting on the ground, toe-to-toe and tank-to-tank, with the Russian, Chinese, or North Korean armies in the foreseeable future. Yet if the trends continue, our Army might be getting less and less skilled at the "small wars" we're more likely to fight.



So, we're facing two choices. Either we change the way we recruit soldiers (and, by the way, cash bonuses are already about as bountiful as they're going to get), or we change the way we conduct foreign policy—that is, we engage more actively in diplomacy or, if war is unavoidable, we form genuine coalitions to help fight it. Otherwise, unless our most dire and direct interests are at stake, we should forget about fighting at all.

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Posted 25 May 2012 - 05:31 PM

Won't help. Just look at their scum cops and how they deal with innocent people.


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Posted 25 May 2012 - 06:07 PM

Aw come on now, where are all the gangs and 1% MCs going to send their guys for training now?
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Posted 25 May 2012 - 11:14 PM

Won't help. Just look at their scum cops and how they deal with innocent people.


Ya cause you know 1 out of 10 represents every officer out there. :rolleyes:
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Posted 26 May 2012 - 09:09 AM

Won't help. Just look at their scum cops and how they deal with innocent people.

Cops don't call the shots dumby. Their employer does. The laws created by politicians do.
Police are just like workers for any company. You're told to do something and you do it.

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Posted 26 May 2012 - 09:38 AM

This might explain the fairly recent PR disasters such as the soldiers pissing on corpses or posing with them. I am glad they are going for quality instead of quantity.


Easy to do when they're no longer fighting in Iraq, and winding down operations in Afghanistan.

Just wait till another warmongering Republican administration gets into office.

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Posted 26 May 2012 - 11:54 AM

I doubt the U.S. is going to want to get involved in sustained land combat for a long time, and I think the upcoming cuts to the U.S. military will hit the U.S. Army the hardest as its by far the most expensive service and yet by far the weakest in relative terms.

Oh and there are plenty of warmongering DNC administrations as well; see "Vietnam" and "Allied Force."
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Posted 26 May 2012 - 12:08 PM

I doubt the U.S. is going to want to get involved in sustained land combat for a long time, and I think the upcoming cuts to the U.S. military will hit the U.S. Army the hardest as its by far the most expensive service and yet by far the weakest in relative terms.

Oh and there are plenty of warmongering DNC administrations as well; see "Vietnam" and "Allied Force."


But won't another sustained land combat in somewhere like Iran be for the sake of American freedom? Isn't the price worth it?

You are right about the Democrats being warmongers too. Harry Truman decided to jump into the Korean War. Obama is nothing but Bush-lite.
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Posted 26 May 2012 - 12:24 PM

They might invade Iran but I can't see them occupying it long term, not enough men and not enough political will. If I were U.S. President I would gut the ground forces budget both because they're just not that effective given the cost and also to discourage major future ground interventions where the U.S. would be supplying the bulk of the manpower.
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Posted 26 May 2012 - 12:58 PM

They might invade Iran but I can't see them occupying it long term, not enough men and not enough political will. If I were U.S. President I would gut the ground forces budget both because they're just not that effective given the cost and also to discourage major future ground interventions where the U.S. would be supplying the bulk of the manpower.


Would they even invade? There are so many spectrums to this argument, one being the Missile Shield that they are deploying in Euro. Which the Russians are absolutly outraged over and are updating their ICBM's to counter that. The final part is expected to go in 2020.

The Russians also vehemently oppose the Iran war alongside China.

So a invasion is really going to be lighting a fire no one knows when it'll burn out.

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We can increase standards and education and testings, but when the troops get constantly deployed so many times into hell ..you know. Im not a soldier but I can see how it would mentally screw you up.

Average deployment in WW2 compared to Iraq/Afghan makes WW2 look like a cake walk.

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Posted 27 May 2012 - 10:32 AM

You are right about the Democrats being warmongers too. Harry Truman decided to jump into the Korean War. Obama is nothing but Bush-lite.


As opposed to Bush-heavy.

Yeah, they too have to play along the MIC and other pro-war lobbyists, but generally speaking, the Dems have a more pacifist support base to answer to and balance things out.

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Posted 27 May 2012 - 11:14 AM

They should attack France and Israel while at it. These countries have nuclear weapons too, I don't know why Iran can't have it, but Israel and France has it. Including China. Why not threaten them? I dare them too.

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Posted 27 May 2012 - 07:54 PM

Won't help. Just look at their scum cops and how they deal with innocent people.

Let me guess, you saw some news article and assumed this type of police brutality is happening around every street corner..

.. genius!

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Posted 28 May 2012 - 12:14 AM

Let me guess, you saw some news article and assumed this type of police brutality is happening around every street corner..

.. genius!


If there's a democratic protest around a street corner, there probably is some brutality happening. :(

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Posted 28 May 2012 - 12:28 AM

Let me guess, you saw some news article and assumed this type of police brutality is happening around every street corner..

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let's face it...you give the pinkos an inch, and they will want the whole damn city block.

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Posted 28 May 2012 - 12:32 AM

let's face it...you give the pinkos an inch, and they will want the whole damn city block.


Fascists like you would love nothing more than to teargas and baton people exercising their constitutional rights to peaceful assembly.

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Posted 28 May 2012 - 06:47 AM

Won't help. Just look at their scum cops and how they deal with innocent people.


Just look at all the scum citizens the cops have to deal with - including those that show no respect for them at all.

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Posted 28 May 2012 - 08:48 AM

Just look at all the scum citizens the cops have to deal with - including those that show no respect for them at all.


You make me sick.

These people are not scum:

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These are the scum:

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And the scum who justify their actions.

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Posted 28 May 2012 - 09:00 AM

You make me sick.

These people are not scum:







These are the scum:











And the scum who justify their actions.


I make you sick? That's a laugh!

Did I say all people were scum?

Should the police just let people do whatever they want?
I'm sorry - I have no respect for those that undermine authority or laws.
The police have to abide by them as well.
All those that don't should be punished.
Do I believe every police officer is perfect? Nope.
Would I rather have the system they have in say places like Mexico or Nicuragua or similar places? Nope.

How about you?

What makes me sick are people who think they have the right to do whatever they feel like.

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Posted 28 May 2012 - 09:14 AM

I make you sick? That's a laugh!

Did I say all people were scum?

Should the police just let people do whatever they want?
I'm sorry - I have no respect for those that undermine authority or laws.
The police have to abide by them as well.
All those that don't should be punished.
Do I believe every police officer is perfect? Nope.
Would I rather have the system they have in say places like Mexico or Nicuragua or similar places? Nope.

How about you?

What makes me sick are people who think they have the right to do whatever they feel like.


I counted four red herrings in your post. :sadno:

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Posted 28 May 2012 - 09:18 AM

I counted four red herrings in your post. :sadno:


I counted...oh wait, youir posts lack substance so there's nothing to count...

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Let me guess - you're like some of those occupiers who dangle a donut on a string everytime a police officer walks past - really mature.

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Posted 28 May 2012 - 09:24 AM

I counted...oh wait, youir posts lack substance so there's nothing to count...

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Let me guess - you're like some of those occupiers who dangle a donut on a string everytime a police officer walks past - really mature.


Ah, decided to add a strawman argument I see. Good for you. :picard:

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My master (Peace be upon You), my father (Peace be upon You) and my friend (Peace be upon You) what a great gift that is.


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Posted 28 May 2012 - 09:26 AM

Ah, decided to add a strawman argument I see. Good for you. :picard:


Yet another dodge...and your attempt at humour is getting rather dull.

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Posted 28 May 2012 - 09:30 AM

Yet another dodge...and your attempt at humour is getting rather dull.


Dodge? Humor? I'm not going to be addressing your logical fallacies. This has nothing to do with making jokes at your expense, you're making a good job of turning yourself into a joke as we speak.

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My master (Peace be upon You), my father (Peace be upon You) and my friend (Peace be upon You) what a great gift that is.


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Posted 28 May 2012 - 09:35 AM

Dodge? Humor? I'm not going to be addressing your logical fallacies. This has nothing to do with making jokes at your expense, you're making a good job of turning yourself into a joke as we speak.


And personal attacks...tsk...tsk....

Logical fallacies? Did you see your post?
So it's okay for you to ask everyone else but not for them to ask you a question?

Just answer the question.

Are all people in authority scum?

Are all people scum?

Obviously the answer is no to both - but you seem to go out of your way to slam someone who makes a comment - as if they were saying all people are scum - which they obviously weren't.

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Posted 28 May 2012 - 10:15 AM

These are the scum:

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And the scum who justify their actions.

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We should send these fine men and women in uniform from the pictures to Montreal and squash the protesters.
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Posted 28 May 2012 - 10:31 AM

We should send these fine men and women in uniform from the pictures to Montreal and squash the protesters.


Why? Montreal's got their own...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EVBJ153uD58

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E7DTPih_Ot8


Police violence on the rise in Montreal

BY STEFAN CHRISTOFF
| MARCH 23, 2012





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Violence at the March 15 protest against police brutality in Montreal was striking -- from flash bang grenades to CS gas and baton strikes, police dispatched serious weaponry against the annual demonstration.
In recent months, popular anger toward the Service de police de la Ville de Montréal(SPVM) has been building. From riot police violence against the growing Québec-wide student strike, to continued police killings in the city, police are facing a growing crisis in public confidence.
Striking students face police brutality
Striking student Francis Grenier suffered a serious eye injury on March 7 while playing harmonica at a protest outside Conférence des recteurs et des principaux des universités du Québec (CREPUQ), an institution strongly backing Québec government austerity-driven moves to hike post-secondary tuition fees by $1,625 over the next five years.
Students demonstrating outside the CREPUQ doors on Sherbrooke Street near the McGill University campus in downtown Montreal were making music and holding red banners, the colour representing the strike, when riot police charged the crowd en masse with batons, launching flash bang grenades directly into the crowd and seriously injuring Grenier.
In the weeks since, students have continued to take to the streets in the thousands, blocking Highway 40 in a mass civil disobedience protest, wearing red eye patches and marching under the banner 'Nous sommes tous Francis Grenier.'
Over the weekend, thousands joined a Montreal-wide community march to support the student strike, involving families and many professors who are now publicly joining the growing strike movement.
Hundreds of striking students joined the March 15 protest against police brutality, officially supported by La Coalition large de l'Association pour une Solidarité Syndicale Étudiante (CLASSE), the coalition of student unions leading the current strike in Québec.
Dangerous police weapons
Again police launched multiple flash bang grenades at the annual police brutality protest in Montreal, exploding over the demonstration on St. Catherine Street in Montreal and unleashing toxic CS gas -- at first only a block away from the spot where Grenier suffered the serious eye injury on Sherbrooke Street.
Now widely used by the Montreal police, flash bang grenades are made by Defense Technologies, a subsidiary of the world's second largest arms manufacturer, BAE Systems.
Flash bangs are rubber-encased devices that explode, creating a 175-decibel shock wave, while emitting a flash of light and releasing a charge of CS gas into the air. CS gas is a chemical irritant that burns the eyes, affects the respiratory system and can cause vomiting.
According to Defense Technologies' official warning text on the exploding weapon, "this product may cause serious injury or death to you or others."
On March 15, police used sound grenades and CS gas on civilian protesters, weaponry that did in fact "cause serious injury" for 22-year-old student protester Grenier from Cégep de Saint-Jérôme, protesting for accessible post-secondary education.
Why are Montreal police deploying dangerous explosive devises against popular protests in 2012? Why are more serious questions not being asked in mainstream media coverage about this dangerous weaponry being deployed by Montreal police?
Montreal police untruths
Contrary to the selective Montreal police narrative of events outlined at a major press conference last week, the protest moved across downtown Montreal without major incident until police first launched CS gas sound bombs toward people marching on the street.
Without question, Montreal police worked on the ground to create panic in the protest from the beginning. Police in riot gear ran at the back end of the protest along Sherbrooke Street, starting at Jeanne-Mance Street, creating a building sense of panic in the demonstration.
At the corner of Almer and Sherbrooke, the demonstration, numbering upwards of 2,000 people according to numerous reports, split into smaller groups after police fired numerous sound bombs and CS gas charges at the protest as riot police charged from different directions.
Montreal police are bending reality in claims that the violent intervention, aiming to disperse and repress the protest, took place after street confrontations with protesters. Riot police charged at the crowd and launched CS gas explosives prior to the vast majority of window breaking or any major confrontations with police.
Larger questions about the imbalance of power, between hundreds of riot police and the thousands of people demonstrating, are missing from almost all mainstream media reports about the March 15 protest.
Are the thousands of riot police, armed with batons or CS gas launchers, creating an inherently violent atmosphere for the annual protest critical of police practices?
Does the massive riot police presence in the métro stations surrounding the annual protest, including aggressive police dogs and potentially lethal weaponry on display, create a toxic atmosphere in the city?
Are the windows of a handful of corporate storefronts on St. Catherine Street more valuable than the health and safety of thousands of Montrealers taking to the streets and calling attention to sustained human rights violations and killings by the police?
Montreal police chief Marc Parent is presenting an untruthful narrative of events to the public and media, a line that attempts to justify police violence against the annual anti-police brutality protest and works to justify increasingly militarized police tactics in the city.
Additionally, the arrest of 226 people at this year's anti-police brutality march, specifically the mass arrest of 190 at the corner of Berri and St. Catherine, occurs against the backdrop of a 2005 UN report issued by the United Nations International Covenant on Civil and Political Rights that condemned the Montreal police for mass arrest tactics.
Deadly police moves
Police repression on March 15 in Montreal, via baton strikes and chemical gas, occurs in the broader context of a wider increase in police violence in the city.
Beyond active repression against the rapidly expanding student movement for accessible education, Montreal police have come under criticism in recent months for a series of fatal shootings.
Hundreds from the student strike movement joined the annual protest against police brutality, while in parallel many in the demonstration chanted slogans and held signs to remember the growing list of civilians in Montreal killed by police bullets.
"Police partout, Justice nulle part!" -- which translates, roughly, to "Police everywhere, Justice nowhere!" -- was a popular French language slogan chanted on the march.
Fredy Villanueva, an 18-year-old youth from Montreal North, was killed by police in the summer of 2005, and his death is the subject of an ongoing struggle for justice led by the Villanueva family. To this day, no police officers involved in the Villanueva killinghave been charged criminally or faced trial in relation to the shooting, despite a wealth of existing evidence on the topic.
Villanueva's death inspired numerous underground hip-hop tracks in Montreal, with artists like Sans Pression and Dramatik directing verses against Montreal police shootings and racial profiling.
In early January 2012, a police intervention at métro Bonaventure turned deadly when police shot and killed Farshad Mohammadi, a Kurdish refugee from Iran struggling with mental health issues and homelessness. The police killing quickly sparked protest in the city and police continue to keep secret a great deal of existing evidence and detailssurrounding the shooting.
Since 1987, in Montreal, more than 60 people have been killed during police interventions, including Mario Hamel and Patrick Limoges, killed on the same morning by police bullets in June 2011.
Sustained police killings in Montreal are a key factor in the growing annual protest against police brutality on March 15.
Without question, people in Montreal are moving on a grassroots level to challenge increasingly violent police tactics, from attacks on public protests to deadly police shootings.
As violent police interventions continue in Montreal, an open question rings in the air on Montreal streets. What police action will spark the tipping point in public opposition toward police tactics?

http://rabble.ca/new...e-rise-montreal

Edited by Scorpio Ego, 28 May 2012 - 10:31 AM.

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My master (Peace be upon You), my father (Peace be upon You) and my friend (Peace be upon You) what a great gift that is.


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Posted 28 May 2012 - 10:37 AM

Why? Montreal's got their own...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EVBJ153uD58

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E7DTPih_Ot8


Police violence on the rise in Montreal

BY STEFAN CHRISTOFF
| MARCH 23, 2012





Posted Image


Violence at the March 15 protest against police brutality in Montreal was striking -- from flash bang grenades to CS gas and baton strikes, police dispatched serious weaponry against the annual demonstration.
In recent months, popular anger toward the Service de police de la Ville de Montréal(SPVM) has been building. From riot police violence against the growing Québec-wide student strike, to continued police killings in the city, police are facing a growing crisis in public confidence.
Striking students face police brutality
Striking student Francis Grenier suffered a serious eye injury on March 7 while playing harmonica at a protest outside Conférence des recteurs et des principaux des universités du Québec (CREPUQ), an institution strongly backing Québec government austerity-driven moves to hike post-secondary tuition fees by $1,625 over the next five years.
Students demonstrating outside the CREPUQ doors on Sherbrooke Street near the McGill University campus in downtown Montreal were making music and holding red banners, the colour representing the strike, when riot police charged the crowd en masse with batons, launching flash bang grenades directly into the crowd and seriously injuring Grenier.
In the weeks since, students have continued to take to the streets in the thousands, blocking Highway 40 in a mass civil disobedience protest, wearing red eye patches and marching under the banner 'Nous sommes tous Francis Grenier.'
Over the weekend, thousands joined a Montreal-wide community march to support the student strike, involving families and many professors who are now publicly joining the growing strike movement.
Hundreds of striking students joined the March 15 protest against police brutality, officially supported by La Coalition large de l'Association pour une Solidarité Syndicale Étudiante (CLASSE), the coalition of student unions leading the current strike in Québec.
Dangerous police weapons
Again police launched multiple flash bang grenades at the annual police brutality protest in Montreal, exploding over the demonstration on St. Catherine Street in Montreal and unleashing toxic CS gas -- at first only a block away from the spot where Grenier suffered the serious eye injury on Sherbrooke Street.
Now widely used by the Montreal police, flash bang grenades are made by Defense Technologies, a subsidiary of the world's second largest arms manufacturer, BAE Systems.
Flash bangs are rubber-encased devices that explode, creating a 175-decibel shock wave, while emitting a flash of light and releasing a charge of CS gas into the air. CS gas is a chemical irritant that burns the eyes, affects the respiratory system and can cause vomiting.
According to Defense Technologies' official warning text on the exploding weapon, "this product may cause serious injury or death to you or others."
On March 15, police used sound grenades and CS gas on civilian protesters, weaponry that did in fact "cause serious injury" for 22-year-old student protester Grenier from Cégep de Saint-Jérôme, protesting for accessible post-secondary education.
Why are Montreal police deploying dangerous explosive devises against popular protests in 2012? Why are more serious questions not being asked in mainstream media coverage about this dangerous weaponry being deployed by Montreal police?
Montreal police untruths
Contrary to the selective Montreal police narrative of events outlined at a major press conference last week, the protest moved across downtown Montreal without major incident until police first launched CS gas sound bombs toward people marching on the street.
Without question, Montreal police worked on the ground to create panic in the protest from the beginning. Police in riot gear ran at the back end of the protest along Sherbrooke Street, starting at Jeanne-Mance Street, creating a building sense of panic in the demonstration.
At the corner of Almer and Sherbrooke, the demonstration, numbering upwards of 2,000 people according to numerous reports, split into smaller groups after police fired numerous sound bombs and CS gas charges at the protest as riot police charged from different directions.
Montreal police are bending reality in claims that the violent intervention, aiming to disperse and repress the protest, took place after street confrontations with protesters. Riot police charged at the crowd and launched CS gas explosives prior to the vast majority of window breaking or any major confrontations with police.
Larger questions about the imbalance of power, between hundreds of riot police and the thousands of people demonstrating, are missing from almost all mainstream media reports about the March 15 protest.
Are the thousands of riot police, armed with batons or CS gas launchers, creating an inherently violent atmosphere for the annual protest critical of police practices?
Does the massive riot police presence in the métro stations surrounding the annual protest, including aggressive police dogs and potentially lethal weaponry on display, create a toxic atmosphere in the city?
Are the windows of a handful of corporate storefronts on St. Catherine Street more valuable than the health and safety of thousands of Montrealers taking to the streets and calling attention to sustained human rights violations and killings by the police?
Montreal police chief Marc Parent is presenting an untruthful narrative of events to the public and media, a line that attempts to justify police violence against the annual anti-police brutality protest and works to justify increasingly militarized police tactics in the city.
Additionally, the arrest of 226 people at this year's anti-police brutality march, specifically the mass arrest of 190 at the corner of Berri and St. Catherine, occurs against the backdrop of a 2005 UN report issued by the United Nations International Covenant on Civil and Political Rights that condemned the Montreal police for mass arrest tactics.
Deadly police moves
Police repression on March 15 in Montreal, via baton strikes and chemical gas, occurs in the broader context of a wider increase in police violence in the city.
Beyond active repression against the rapidly expanding student movement for accessible education, Montreal police have come under criticism in recent months for a series of fatal shootings.
Hundreds from the student strike movement joined the annual protest against police brutality, while in parallel many in the demonstration chanted slogans and held signs to remember the growing list of civilians in Montreal killed by police bullets.
"Police partout, Justice nulle part!" -- which translates, roughly, to "Police everywhere, Justice nowhere!" -- was a popular French language slogan chanted on the march.
Fredy Villanueva, an 18-year-old youth from Montreal North, was killed by police in the summer of 2005, and his death is the subject of an ongoing struggle for justice led by the Villanueva family. To this day, no police officers involved in the Villanueva killinghave been charged criminally or faced trial in relation to the shooting, despite a wealth of existing evidence on the topic.
Villanueva's death inspired numerous underground hip-hop tracks in Montreal, with artists like Sans Pression and Dramatik directing verses against Montreal police shootings and racial profiling.
In early January 2012, a police intervention at métro Bonaventure turned deadly when police shot and killed Farshad Mohammadi, a Kurdish refugee from Iran struggling with mental health issues and homelessness. The police killing quickly sparked protest in the city and police continue to keep secret a great deal of existing evidence and detailssurrounding the shooting.
Since 1987, in Montreal, more than 60 people have been killed during police interventions, including Mario Hamel and Patrick Limoges, killed on the same morning by police bullets in June 2011.
Sustained police killings in Montreal are a key factor in the growing annual protest against police brutality on March 15.
Without question, people in Montreal are moving on a grassroots level to challenge increasingly violent police tactics, from attacks on public protests to deadly police shootings.
As violent police interventions continue in Montreal, an open question rings in the air on Montreal streets. What police action will spark the tipping point in public opposition toward police tactics?

http://rabble.ca/new...e-rise-montreal


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Posted 28 May 2012 - 10:41 AM

I wonder how many police have been killed and injured since 1987?

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Posted 28 May 2012 - 10:49 AM

We should send these fine men and women in uniform from the pictures to Montreal and squash the protesters.


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