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Posted 26 May 2012 - 12:08 PM

You should change your post to read:


Coulda, woulda, shoulda does not win cups and either does hindsight.

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Posted 26 May 2012 - 12:13 PM

the canucks made bernier into the player he is... and even then, hes not THAT good. when he was here, he was slow and inneffective... good for him for turning his career around, but we did not miss out on ANYTHING

except mitchell - we should have re-signed him... i said so then, and i say it now
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Posted 26 May 2012 - 12:20 PM

We missed out on Jamior Jagr, we missed out on Martin Brodeur, we missed out on Pavel Datsyuk, we missed out on Henrik Zetterberg, we missed out on Tim Thomas, Zdeno Chara, Claude Giroux, Anze Kopitar, and the list goes on.

In my eyes drouin is overrated he can score in the qmjhl but did nothing in last two gold medal games that canada lost. Fox will be better pro than him talk to me in five yrs

Gaudreau has one NHL goal whereas all your "prized" prospects have none.

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Posted 26 May 2012 - 12:22 PM

We missed out on Jamior Jagr, we missed out on Martin Brodeur, we missed out on Pavel Datsyuk, we missed out on Henrik Zetterberg, we missed out on Tim Thomas, Zdeno Chara, Claude Giroux, Anze Kopitar, and the list goes on.

We missed out on Gretzky!



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Posted 26 May 2012 - 12:23 PM

Mitchell, yes. Bernier, nope.

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Posted 26 May 2012 - 12:44 PM


Playing as a depth winger. In Vanocuver, he was called to top-6 action, which (let's face it) was a dud.

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Posted 26 May 2012 - 12:45 PM

We missed out on Jamior Jagr, we missed out on Martin Brodeur, we missed out on Pavel Datsyuk, we missed out on Henrik Zetterberg, we missed out on Tim Thomas, Zdeno Chara, Claude Giroux, Anze Kopitar, and the list goes on.

So did 29 other teams. MULTIPLE TIMES.


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Posted 26 May 2012 - 12:50 PM

Mitchell was everything we didn't need in a defenseman at the time. Hes big and slow.. He had no offensive upside when he was here. He became the scapegoat for what was wrong with this teams D when he coughed up the puck in the Blackhawks series which resulted in our elimination.
Not to mention the concussion issue.

We chose to go another route, and while it didnt result in a cup - we did pretty well for ourselves.

That being said, I'm a big Mitchell fan and wouldn't be opposed to him returning if he was cheap enough. We have a fast enough d core to compensate for how slow he is.

So I don't think we 'missed' out on him at all. He's done well and we've done well.

Bernier on the other hand was basically a plug for us. Not sad that he left...

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Posted 26 May 2012 - 01:03 PM

Bernier sucks. He's looked impressive here in the playoffs, but this is the same Bernier that had 6 points and 1 goal in 32 games for the Devils. He barely qualifies as a fourth liner.
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Posted 26 May 2012 - 01:04 PM

Lol as if anyone would Steve Bernier.

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Posted 26 May 2012 - 01:05 PM

Both were replaceable assets and they were both replaced. Cheers.

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Posted 26 May 2012 - 02:01 PM

Bernier's doing exactly what he did for the Canucks, being a big, effective fourth-line winger. Of course when he was here everyone expected him to be a second-line winger and score 20 goals because of his contract, that's why he wasn't brought back. Same deal with Pyatt, one good season with the Sedins and everyone expected him to be top-6 forever. And we know why they never brought Mitchell back of course, I thought it was a mistake at the time and it looks even worse now.

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Posted 26 May 2012 - 02:24 PM

How is that? Oh, because they happen to be on teams that are in the Stanley Cup finals? Man, if only we could have known that Steve Bernier was the key to winning a Stanley Cup. :picard:
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Posted 26 May 2012 - 02:35 PM

Wishing them both the best.

Willie will always be a B.C. boy and I miss Wellwood's character and post season skill.

Lupul,Ronning,Kyle, Bure. Five foot ten and under with skill and heart.

Hope Schroeder can develop into a notable Canuck soon.

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Posted 26 May 2012 - 02:38 PM

Once upon a time, we had them. Both are fulfilling important roles in their respective SCF teams. However, the Canucks office wasn't able to recognize their role when they were here and wasn't used to their fullest ability. In the case of Willie, the Canucks opted to not take the risk and replace him with Ballard.

The Canucks need more personnel that can recognize this and avoid letting role players like this get away.

I guess we also missed the boat with Cooke and Ruutu.

Btw, Hamhuis took Mitchells spot.
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Posted 26 May 2012 - 02:41 PM

Trust me we won't even remember their names when Tanner Glass opens up a can of whoop ass on the league and wins the scoring title.

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Posted 26 May 2012 - 02:53 PM

Raffi Torres, Chris Higgins, Maxim Lapierre were all additions to our team last year and any of the 3 of them >>>> than Bernier in the playoffs, so who cares.

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Posted 26 May 2012 - 03:06 PM

Lmao u people are hilarious (people that make such rediculous threads) not the ones flaming away. Op you deserve a medal..

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Posted 26 May 2012 - 03:59 PM

The reason they got rid of them is because they sucked in the playoffs, and wanted more money than they were worth. Of course now that their not with the Canucks their world beaters just like all players that leave. :picard:

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Posted 26 May 2012 - 03:59 PM

We didn't miss out on Mitchell, he walked during free agency for more money.

In a non-cap situation we would have kept him in a heartbeat, the fact is that we are a cap strapped team and we can only really afford quality players if they're willing to sign at a discount, Mitchell wasn't willing to do that. Nothing against him he just was looking to sign with a team for an amount that he felt he was worth, and truth is he was worth more than what we could afford to pay him.

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Posted 26 May 2012 - 04:04 PM

I guess we shoulda kept Hedberg.....after all he's going to the SCF....................

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Posted 26 May 2012 - 05:03 PM

disregard this post. Mine I mean. Is there a way to delete posts and if yes why can't I find it?

Edited by smackyo23, 26 May 2012 - 05:05 PM.

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Posted 26 May 2012 - 05:14 PM

There are $3.5 million reasons we didn't sign Mitchell. It was too much for a guy coming back from a major concussion. I wish he signed here for $2 million but them's the breaks.

LA overpaid and took a chance and won.

Gillis did the same thing with Sundin and people gripe and complain about it.

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Posted 26 May 2012 - 05:50 PM

It's like this forum has completely forgotten that our team went to the Stanley Cup Finals last year ...

Why doesn't that surprise me?

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Posted 26 May 2012 - 06:39 PM

I really don't get the "Canucks let Mitchell go" stuff. I think it's actually more of a case of the Kings went above and beyond to get him -- 2 years at 3.5 per is more than I think most were willing to pay at the time. People on CDC were talking about 1 year 2 million or something given the uncertainty around the concussion which I would have agreed with.

Willie made it very clear he wanted to goto a Cup contender but he turned down the chance to goto Washington and Detroit for LA. I'm pretty sure the contract was a big reason for that.

I believe he passed up on going to Washington or San Jose. Sure liked Willie - solid Dman plus a good character guy. Bernier was a complete bust - sometimes worry a bit that Kassian is similar. The real shame was losing Luc Bourdon R.I.P. He would have been great in the line up.

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Posted 26 May 2012 - 06:50 PM

Would rather have Bernier over Raymond. At least Bernier wouldn't fall down

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Posted 26 May 2012 - 07:04 PM

Would rather have Bernier over Raymond. At least Bernier wouldn't fall down

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Posted 26 May 2012 - 07:34 PM

Mitchell was always great here, and Bernier was never really used properly. He's a 2nd line or 3rd line checking center at best but we had him with the twins trying to generate some skilled offence.
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Posted 26 May 2012 - 08:12 PM

WM chose to leave instead of taking a year at his then current worth to prove himself.

U only overpay if u are desperate, and WM took the money and run. Makes a better song than hockey signing. Kings were desperate for a few years and ended up

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Posted 26 May 2012 - 08:58 PM

actually, ballard was mitchell`s replacement.... im happy for willie, he wasn`t being offfered the money or the term he deserved or wanted with canucks organization. He bled blue and green, playing for his hometown team that was a dream come true for him, I would be so happy if he got a cup. Still think Gillis should have taken a risk and signed mitchell, hell he took a bigger risk with sturm IMO.
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