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Is Lu For Vinny Really That Bad.........if Its The Best Offer?

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  1. 1. If a deal with TB that had Lu and Vinny as center pieces best offer would you do it? (Please read article or summary first)

    • Yes
    • No
    • the 10th pick or the 19th pick along with Vinny is what makes or breaks the deal

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Interesting article from hockeybuzz - http://www.hockeybuz...Sense/164/44618

If you dont wanna read the article ill sum it up:

1) Tampa is still interested in Lu but only if we take Vinny back

2) If you ignore the cap hit for a second its a good deal for both teams ( fills holes )

3) Vinny can still produce for the season and the playoffs, big body playmaker for kes and booth

4) Even though the cap would be tight we could still make it work

5) New CBA may include an out clause for over-paid contracts,

6) Cap hit will be raised by 3 - 5 mill next season

7) FInal offer - VAN: Vinny, 19th overall pick, 50th overall pick; TB: Lu, 26th overall pick, 2013 3rd round pick

My thoughts:

Vinny is a great player that can still produce both in the season and the playoffs. He would be the perfect guy to center kes and booth, not to mention that kes will be gone tilll november and id be way more comfortable with vinny on the second and schoerder on the third. Yes the contract sucks and thats the only reason i would consider not making this trade. On the other side of this argument it makes perfect sense for both teams. TB get their #1 goalie and we get a legit top 6 playmaking forward. In the end I would do his deal IF it was the only reasonable offer we got, but i would have to change the deal a little bit.

To VAN: Vinny, 10th overall pick

To TB: Lu, 26th overall pick, 2013 3rd round pick

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We don't need Lecavalier. And Stevie Y said he'd prefer to not trade to get a goalie

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I'd take the deal Vinny plays hard, has some ups and downs, but overall has the skill set that we need in our top six...Imagine Booth-Vinny-Kes as a line when kes is healthy, and Booth Vinny Kassian/Higgins until Kes is back...looks like a good trade to me...that is if nothing better comes our way (and that includes a deal for Cory)

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The only way I'd do it is if we could get rid of Ballard in another trade to clar some cap space. Still hesitant though.

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Vinny hasn't cared since 2004.

He played like he meant it back then but ever since nadda.

Same story with Eric Staal, Early success kills motivation.

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I find it funny to see this topic started. Only because I swear, last night I dreamt that we had traded Luongo for Lecavalier. :P

I have no idea if it is a good trade or not, I'm not a hockey expert and there's people on this forum far more knowledgeable than me.

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Forget Vinny he won t come to Canada ,,He will never waive his no trade clause.

He is so well in Tampa..Why would he come here? To make us happy?

Dont think so...He refused to play in Mtl.

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Tampa gm mentioned he clearly does not want Lu quoted from previous article in Vancouver sun. Stop with tampa conspiracies

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I have my doubts, and reasons for said doubts

Vinny's points-per-game scoring rate has been decreasing for 5 seasons now, though he scored about the same (0.81 to 0.77 p.p.g) in 03-04 when they won the Cup. He's def. a high-risk, high-reward component also, since Lu's pretty accomplished and established as a #1 in the league, whereas Vinny's over-the-top, though still capable of contributing. However, if Vinny doesn't live up to his albatross whereas Lu gets it done with Stamkos, St. Louis and co. in Tampa not only would the team have traded away arguably one of its most valuable assets in Lu, but we would pick up someone who's more a liability than an asset if Vinny continues to decline (I'm thinking Gomez-McDonagh here, since goalies can play into their 40's so Lu could have at least 5 productive seasons left whereas Vinny's scoring could decrease so much that he's not fit to be on the 2nd line, but his hefty salary makes him comparable to Scott Gomez and the retired Chris Drury in terms of busts for their contracts.)

Who knows how it'll play out?

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Honestly, I wouldn't mind that all. Sure he's a big contract, but we get rid of one ourselves and maybe get rid of Ballard. Our second line would have Size, Skill, Scoring and Speed.

Booth-Lacavalier-Kesler

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I find it funny to see this topic started. Only because I swear, last night I dreamt that we had traded Luongo for Lecavalier. :P

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With Kesler being a question mark again, Lecavalier actually makes a lot of sense. Lecavalier's a year younger than Luongo, and his contract ends two years earlier. I would consider a Lecavalier + 10th overall for Luongo + 26th overall.

So many reasons...,

  • Getting rid of Luongo, the team can focus on Schneider being the number one goalie and get rid of the drama

  • We gain a top six forward that we desperately need. How many goals did we score against LA again? Lecavalier still averages about 60 points a year, and I wouldn't be surprised if he could do that for another 4/5 years. (St.Louis is 37)

  • We get a much higher draft position, and a potential to draft a stud prospect that again, we also desperately need. Remember the last time we picked 10th overall?

  • At the very least, we can afford to stick Lecavalier into the minors, where as Luongo has a NMC I believe.

People on here actually think Luongo has a lot of value? His value is almost close to zero, and maybe even negative. Not many people want to take that contract on.

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Yzerman pretending he doesn't want Lu is just posturing.

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Sorry, but I'd rather not be spending $7.8 million on a second line center on the decline.

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