Heretic Posted May 29, 2012 Share Posted May 29, 2012 If companies want their items purchased, they need to make their items appealing. Criminalizing technology and clinging to old models is the wrong way to go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goalie13 Posted May 29, 2012 Share Posted May 29, 2012 If companies want their items purchased, they need to make their items appealing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Satan's Evil Twin Posted May 29, 2012 Share Posted May 29, 2012 Who downloads unappealing music though? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goalie13 Posted May 29, 2012 Share Posted May 29, 2012 It goes beyond "appealing music". Is it easy to consume? Does it work in any format? Can I do with it as I please? When you pirate, the answer to all is "yes". Not only that, but we've all been bitten by paying good money for albums that had a couple of good songs. Laws that prevent people from returning media only pushed people toward piracy. And yet, artists are selling record amounts of music, independent artists are getting more exposure, and I'm yet to hear any artist who wasn't Dre or the dude from Metallica argue against piracy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Satan's Evil Twin Posted May 29, 2012 Share Posted May 29, 2012 Back in the day, I pretty much always figured that I was buying the album for the good songs and the rest was just filler. From time to time there would be groups that could produce albums that were great from end to end, but this was mostly not the case. Now, with many of the online services I can pick and choose which song I want and ignore the filler. Your previous comment just struck me as funny and I do tend to leave comments about things like that. I totally agree with you though (if I am reading you right). One thing that drives me nuts is I have paid good money for dozens of DVDs, but I can't load them into my iPod to watch when I travel. I just think that's wrong. If I bought it, I should be able to watch it or listen to it how I choose. I can download my entire CD collection into iTunes, but I can't do the same with my movies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goalie13 Posted May 29, 2012 Share Posted May 29, 2012 Isn't it depressing how we accept such things as standard practice? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Satan's Evil Twin Posted May 29, 2012 Share Posted May 29, 2012 I just figured most groups weren't good enough to come up with enough quality material for a whole album. :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amish Rake Fighter Posted May 29, 2012 Share Posted May 29, 2012 A standard album should've cost 5 bucks and contained 4-5 songs on it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Satan's Evil Twin Posted May 29, 2012 Share Posted May 29, 2012 EPs have been around for 60 years http://en.wikipedia....i/Extended_play Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darkstar Posted May 29, 2012 Share Posted May 29, 2012 Seems fair. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NikiShiz Posted May 29, 2012 Share Posted May 29, 2012 What a joke! Seriously I don't understand how they reach these crazy numerical values for downloading songs...does the artist/company actually lose out $650,000 by the kid downloading the music? Seems rediculous if you ask me. I definitely buy the work of artists I love (like Michael Jackson) but how do artists like lets say for example CHINGY...expect people to buy their songs? Oh well I Youtube everything now adays anyways...no need to download lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Columbo Posted May 29, 2012 Author Share Posted May 29, 2012 What a joke! Seriously I don't understand how they reach these crazy numerical values for downloading songs...does the artist/company actually lose out $650,000 by the kid downloading the music? Seems rediculous if you ask me. I definitely buy the work of artists I love (like Michael Jackson) but how do artists like lets say for example CHINGY...expect people to buy their songs? Oh well I Youtube everything now adays anyways...no need to download lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kumquats Posted May 29, 2012 Share Posted May 29, 2012 Even if this fine gets paid how much of it is going to the artists? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burnsey Posted May 29, 2012 Share Posted May 29, 2012 you can understand why they want to stop illegal download however the fine is way to steep. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heretic Posted May 29, 2012 Share Posted May 29, 2012 Even if this fine gets paid how much of it is going to the artists? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unknown33429 Posted May 29, 2012 Share Posted May 29, 2012 Downloading illegally is wrong, but I feel uncomfortable renting adult films, so I'll keep doing it..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D-Money Posted May 29, 2012 Share Posted May 29, 2012 In the 90's, a bunch of corporations were fined for making large illegal political contributions. Funny how none of those fines were over $600,000. I still don't understand the legal aspect of this. How, in any sense of reason, can you claim that $675,000 worth of damages occurred from one person's downloading? I understand that the companies want to make an example - but legally that is meaningless. I understand that it's too expensive to sue for a couple hundred bucks - but if that is all that it was truly worth, then tough...What is the proof of damage? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D-Money Posted May 29, 2012 Share Posted May 29, 2012 November 2006 The Seattle Times reports today that Celebrity Cruises faces a fine for the Mercury dumping 500,000 gallons of untreated wastewater into Puget Sound. Though it initially claimed it hadn't dumped, shipboard documents contradicted the company's claim. The dumping happended 10 times over nine days in September and October 2005. Amount of fine? $100,000. (LINK: http://www.cruisejunkie.com/largefines.html) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Satan's Evil Twin Posted May 29, 2012 Share Posted May 29, 2012 In the 90's, a bunch of corporations were fined for making large illegal political contributions. Funny how none of those fines were over $600,000. I still don't understand the legal aspect of this. How, in any sense of reason, can you claim that $675,000 worth of damages occurred from one person's downloading? I understand that the companies want to make an example - but legally that is meaningless. I understand that it's too expensive to sue for a couple hundred bucks - but if that is all that it was truly worth, then tough...What is the proof of damage? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amish Rake Fighter Posted May 29, 2012 Share Posted May 29, 2012 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sony_BMG_v._Tenenbaum Kill one, frighten ten thousand -Sun Tzu Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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