TOMapleLaughs Posted May 30, 2012 Share Posted May 30, 2012 THE BAD NEWS -Firstly, the two sides haven't even talked about any of the issues yet, which is insane in itself. -The last lockout resulted in many errors with the cba. Errors that need correcting, according to the owners. -The players feel that they've already given up far too much. -The owners feel that another lockout wouldn't kill off fan interest, as shown by even-growing revenues since the last lockout. ie. Prepare for more rules changes that will kill off the slow and interference-filled hockey that we've seen for most of this season. (Hey was it a coincidence that this pre-lockout season was slow and interference-filled? No. The easiest way for the league to get fans back again is to open up the game again.) -The NHL has issued an official statement to the NHLPA that they would like the current CBA terminated. -GM's have cancelled rookie camps. -The KHL has opened their arms to all returning Russians, excluding their salaries from cap hits. -Rumblings from other European teams signing UFAs like Pahlsson. OWNERS -The owners want a 50-50 revenue split with the players. It's currently 57% for the players. -There are still too many teams bleeding money under the current cba. A team has moved (Atlanta), and a team may still have to move imminently (Phoenix). -The salary cap floor is too high for a lot of teams. -Owners want a contract term limit. -They also want to be rid of contracts they don't want anymore, restructuring current buyout rules. -The owners need to settle their own problems regarding revenue sharing. Rich teams are tired of bailing out poor ones, but poor ones don't like the high cap floor and the withering away of their competitiveness compared to the initial post-2005 lockout seasons. That internal battle will likely be taken out on the players again. PLAYERS -The players hired a bulldog to replace their bending-over rep from the previous lockout. -The players' rejection of the NHL's proposed re-alignment was an indication that they're prepared to stand their ground this time. -Players are concerned that too much of their earnings is going to escrow in order to prop-up lame duck teams. Currently, up to 12.5% of their paycheck goes to escrow, then that money gets divided among the players and teams to ensure the proper revenue split is met. THE GOOD NEWS -League revenues continue to reach record highs, almost doubling the last pre-lockout season. -The cap continues to rise. Good news for owners. -The league will continue to prosper, no matter how many labour disputes they have, because we as fans are suckers. At least that's the thinking by the league. -Hey, now Kesler will have all the time he needs to heal. -The problems are fewer than in 2005, so in theory the lockout will be shorter. In theory. Cheers. TOML "We are being played for suckers." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shift-4 Posted May 30, 2012 Share Posted May 30, 2012 Bring it on I have stopped giving a crap about hockey anyways Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goalie13 Posted May 30, 2012 Share Posted May 30, 2012 Funny, as much as the players felt they lost in the last CBA, they are making far more money than they ever have. -Players are concerned that too much of their earnings is going to escrow in order to prop-up lame duck teams. Currently, up to 12.5% of their paycheck goes to escrow, then that money gets divided among the players and teams to ensure the proper revenue split is met. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
avelanch Posted May 30, 2012 Share Posted May 30, 2012 after this joke of a year changes are clearly needed. I've become somewhat jaded, to be honest, I think I'll stick to the AHL and junior leagues if there really is a lockout. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spotted Zebra Posted May 30, 2012 Share Posted May 30, 2012 They can't afford a whole season lost. WORST case scenario has to be 1 or two months gone. With the NBA and NFL surving a lockout scare the NHL needs to have a season to stay relevent in the US. Just look at the kings, the joke is that they're the 9th most popular team in LA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Power Posted May 30, 2012 Share Posted May 30, 2012 1 st thing: no way the NHLPA lets the owners disolve say 1 contract per team without that player becoming UFA. So lets say that you don't like Louie's contract and want to erase it, be prepaired for him to walk for nothing. 2nd: If I was an Edmonton fan I'd be praying for a strike to start the day after this years draft and running until the day before next years draft, Nail and MacKinnen and everyones current contract staying the same but the players 1 year older(and better). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terrible.dee Posted May 30, 2012 Share Posted May 30, 2012 The biggest problem facing this league is the incredibly BORING style of hockey they allow teams to play. These playoffs have been hard for real fans to watch, I can only imagine what casual sports fans think. It's time for drastic rule changes that insure we never have to watch crap like this again. I also find it funny that the Devils, who brought boring hockey to the NHL all those years ago (The NHL has never really recovered from since thier win in 95) are about to win the cup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BoKnows53 Posted May 30, 2012 Share Posted May 30, 2012 How aboUt calling the game the same way in the playoffs as the regular season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheCammer Posted May 30, 2012 Share Posted May 30, 2012 Another lockout this soon after the last one would be disastrous for hockey. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TOMapleLaughs Posted May 30, 2012 Author Share Posted May 30, 2012 POSSIBLE IMPLICATIONS: 1. The inevitable rules changes means that teams who bring a lot of offense to the table will benefit the most from the post 2012-13 lockout. So Gillis was right in that the league changes in that regard. (On the other hand, a team that traded Hodgson for Kassian might not benefit as much.) But a team that promotes a much speedier and flashier Jordan Schroeder might benefit more. Hmmm... 'Wide-open hockey' teams like and TO & Edmonton may see their performance improve dramatically from their current 'god-awful' performance level. Esp. Edmonton, who has a few young stars ready for a significant breakout. Detroit, Philly, Chicago and Pittsburgh will all reap large benefits. 2. Still, the rich teams will get richer after the lockout. TO, Boston, Detroit, NYR and Philly will continue to flourish, money-wise. 3. Poor teams will get poorer. While the Coyotes might be saved, nobody will want to see a team that still can't compete without league assistance. Nashville will likely continue to lose their stars. Florida, Carolina and TB might have their futures dimmed unless the league steps in. 4. Teams hampered by the cap will be able to ditch bad contracts. Montreal and perhaps Tampa Bay come to mind. NYR has Redden's contract, but they've already buried it. 5. Slowish, clutch 'n grab teams will take a hit, performance-wise. Good-bye, NYR inflated record. See ya, Nashville success. Sayonara, Minnesota Wild. And even the Zdeno Chara-led Bruins may see a dip. 6. Cast-off players like Alex Semin may see their value increase quite a bit. That's if he doesn't bolt to Russia. 7. For the short-term, i can see Tampa Bay being the team to push the hardest for a post-lockout cup. They have some aging stars combined with a young superstar. They've made it to round three just recently and they could go all the way with a couple tweaks. 8. Where does Vancouver fit? Well, that depends on what Gillis does to improve his team during all this time off. The cap will go up, yes, but it goes up for ALL teams. Freeing up the Sedins will be nice, but Crosby, Datsyuk, Toews and Giroux will be freed up as well. Perhaps Vancouver should maintain it's two-headed goaltending advantage for now. It could be a difference-maker. Cheers. TOML Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldnews Posted May 30, 2012 Share Posted May 30, 2012 The moment the Cup is handed out, they'd be wise to buck up and get it done asap - taking their fan base for granted is arrogant and bad business, particularly in a tough economic climate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TOMapleLaughs Posted May 30, 2012 Author Share Posted May 30, 2012 You'd also think that a 'loosening-up' of the game would see Ballard's and Gragnani's value go up. As well as Raymond's, Booth's, etc. At least for the short term. But how about Kassian? The kid has some speed and hands for his size. Maybe if he can find his legs for a whole season then his value will climb high. In the playoffs you're still going to need some bangers. Esp. speedy, top-6 bangers. That's why the biggest acquisition by a team in the prolonged off-season might not even be Parise, Weber or Suter. It might be Rick Nash. Lord knows Kassian isn't there yet and he never will be. Cheers. TOML Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TOMapleLaughs Posted May 30, 2012 Author Share Posted May 30, 2012 If this last bit is correct, then I totally misunderstood escrow. I thought it was money withheld from the players until the end of the year when it would be determined if the league met its revenue targets. The cap is based on projections of what the league would earn in the coming season, and the cap is a percentage of those revenues, so if the league didn't take in what it predicted, then the withheld money (or portion of) would not be returned to the players. If the league did hit its revenue predictions, then the players would get all of the money they paid into escrow back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heretic Posted May 30, 2012 Share Posted May 30, 2012 I could care less what millionaire players want. If there's a lockout - shame on them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spotted Zebra Posted May 30, 2012 Share Posted May 30, 2012 Pointing out how much atheletes make is the weakest excuse. If they make 50,000, would a lockout be acceptable? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snake Doctor Posted May 30, 2012 Share Posted May 30, 2012 I don't think they will come to an agreement any time soon or before next season. I think they will just keep the same agreement in place for another year and fight it out while the regular season is played. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goalie13 Posted May 30, 2012 Share Posted May 30, 2012 I think they will just keep the same agreement in place for another year and fight it out while the regular season is played. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lonny_Bohonos_14 Posted May 30, 2012 Share Posted May 30, 2012 I could care less what millionaire players want. If there's a lockout - shame on them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TOMapleLaughs Posted May 30, 2012 Author Share Posted May 30, 2012 I could care less what millionaire players want. If there's a lockout - shame on them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heretic Posted May 30, 2012 Share Posted May 30, 2012 Because it's all on them. Unlike those innocent owners Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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