Lonny_Bohonos_14 Posted May 30, 2012 Share Posted May 30, 2012 I never said the owners were innocent of anything - I said it's the players fault if there's a lockout. Please tell me you're not feeling sorry for those that make over $4 million a year yet score less than 20 goals? I said it before and I'll say it again - there needs to be a pay for performance system - not just an outright "pay the players whatever they want" or what some rich arbitrator decides.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heretic Posted May 30, 2012 Share Posted May 30, 2012 Pretty sure it was the owners who decided to terminate this CBA in September. This Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ṣpiderman Posted May 30, 2012 Share Posted May 30, 2012 Some of you guys find this kind of hockey boring because teams can actually play defense? Our team can't play defense and everyone is complaining? If we were capable of playing tight defensive hockey, would anyone complain? Exciting hockey is just a game filled with mistakes. Seems like some people still have trouble understanding the game. Sure watching 6-7 goals a game is nice, but the defense looks like a joke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TOMapleLaughs Posted May 30, 2012 Author Share Posted May 30, 2012 http://www.thehockeynews.com/articles/47311-NHL-files-CBA-termination-notice-to-NHLPA.html May 16, 2012. NHL files CBA termination notice to NHLPA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TOMapleLaughs Posted May 30, 2012 Author Share Posted May 30, 2012 Some of you guys find this kind of hockey boring because teams can actually play defense? Our team can't play defense and everyone is complaining? If we were capable of playing tight defensive hockey, would anyone complain? Exciting hockey is just a game filled with mistakes. Seems like some people still have trouble understanding the game. Sure watching 6-7 goals a game is nice, but the defense looks like a joke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
realnucksfan2010 Posted May 30, 2012 Share Posted May 30, 2012 I hope there is a lock out, mabey the owners will wake up a get rid of Peewee.................oops I mean betman! There is reason why the NBA fired this guy and now the hockey world is also seeing why, wake up owners and can this idiot!!!!! All of the rule changes are a joke, put the game back to the pre betman era and everything will level out and be fine. Just my opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Provost Posted May 30, 2012 Share Posted May 30, 2012 The players are still unhappy with the cap... even though it has done pretty darn well for them in the end. I don't see them being particularly interested in reducing their percentage to fix the league's problems. They will very reasonably say that the league needs to figure out some revenue sharing if they want parity, and it isn't all on the players to make it happen in spite of bad decisions by the league and individual teams. An interesting note about the health of the league is that both teams in the SCF are reported to be for sale.... never mind the other half a dozen teams that are losing money/for sale. It is currently not a sustainable model, the small market and poorly located teams keep having to spend more for the cap floor. Moving the worst revenue teams to higher revenue markets only makes it worse as that makes the overall league revenue increase and bump the cap floor up even more. Revenue sharing is the only real way to fix things. There are some ridiculously rich teams that can afford this with no issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ṣpiderman Posted May 30, 2012 Share Posted May 30, 2012 Maybe, but would you be willing to kill off a chunk of a season to see more of that, but way worse, later on? btw We won the Jennings recently. That involves what? Defense? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUPERTKBD Posted May 30, 2012 Share Posted May 30, 2012 I think goalie13 is right Tom, the escrow is there to make sure the owners meet their revenue share. The players may or may not get the money back. The other thing about your OP that struck me was the mention of the hiring of Donald Fehr. I agree that he won't be pushed around, but I don't agree that Goodenough "bent over". From what I can tell, he was advising the PA to "stay the course", but it was various factions within the PA that caved. Of course, you're correct in that another work stoppage is a definite possibility, but one would hope that with the Cap projected at about double what was agreed on in the last go 'round, that common sense will prevail. Unfortunately, common sense doesn't seem to be all that common between these two sides.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TOMapleLaughs Posted May 30, 2012 Author Share Posted May 30, 2012 It doesn't matter to me. I enjoy the game anyhow it's played. The strategy is proven effective. We won the Jennings but that's because we spent a majority of the season in the offensive zone dominating the opposition. We ran teams to the ground. Our team's defensive system has always been "poor". Ehrhoff was poor defensively getting beat from the outside with speed and Bieksa was always caught fishing for the puck instead of taking the body/stick of the player Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet_91 Posted May 30, 2012 Share Posted May 30, 2012 after this joke of a year changes are clearly needed. I've become somewhat jaded, to be honest, I think I'll stick to the AHL and junior leagues if there really is a lockout. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-AJ- Posted May 30, 2012 Share Posted May 30, 2012 Even though it'll be a sacrifice, I think a lockout may be necessary to get some things done that need to be done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Power Posted May 30, 2012 Share Posted May 30, 2012 If they do lock out maybe the Canadian government will legislate them back to work as an essential industry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanKeslord17 Posted May 30, 2012 Share Posted May 30, 2012 Whatever, I'm on to grade 12 next year, no Canucks anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Vintage Canuck- Posted May 30, 2012 Share Posted May 30, 2012 Bettman won't guarantee a 100 percent certainty Coyotes will be in Phoenix next season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Sikes Posted May 30, 2012 Share Posted May 30, 2012 The biggest problem facing this league is the incredibly BORING style of hockey they allow teams to play. These playoffs have been hard for real fans to watch, I can only imagine what casual sports fans think. It's time for drastic rule changes that insure we never have to watch crap like this again. I also find it funny that the Devils, who brought boring hockey to the NHL all those years ago (The NHL has never really recovered from since thier win in 95) are about to win the cup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Sikes Posted May 30, 2012 Share Posted May 30, 2012 Bring it on I have stopped giving a crap about hockey anyways Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Sikes Posted May 30, 2012 Share Posted May 30, 2012 I don't think they will come to an agreement any time soon or before next season. I think they will just keep the same agreement in place for another year and fight it out while the regular season is played. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Sikes Posted May 30, 2012 Share Posted May 30, 2012 Bettman won't guarantee a 100 percent certainty Coyotes will be in Phoenix next season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thad Posted May 30, 2012 Share Posted May 30, 2012 Maybe a 60 game season is what the Canucks need to win the cup lol.. We always seem to wrap up the president trophy in the last 20 games or so. We could take the cup in the last 22 games lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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