Look, Lou was good last year in the play offs. Until he melted down in game 3,4 and 6 in Boston. Or game 6 3 seasons ago in Chicago, game 7 in Chicago the year before that when he let in 7 goals in the series final.
Now, against Boston we also scored how many goals over 7 games? Lou did not loose us the series
. But he contributed, because his play was a jolt to team confidence, as were his antics over tire pumping. If confidence was sky high because he stood on his head as we started loosing key players to injury, maybe we get that extra push from everybody. Its what elevates championship teams, and why Patrick Roy is in the HHOF.
As good, and Lou has been extremely good, as Lou has been over time, he has also not been the key guy we have needed him to be at the most critical times!
A fresh start, considering we have Schneider, could be good for everybody!
Luongo never carried the Canucks to the finals.... Sedins got us past sharks, Kesler was a beast vs the Preds, we almost lost to the Hawks in the 1st round and we lost to the Bruins in the finals, Luongo gets too much heat for the loss and not deserved but he didn't carry us there.
Bull cookies! You cannot evaluate one game, or even one series at a time!
Its not enough to help a crap team into the play off's. Its fair to expect the worlds highest paid player to be at his best when you need him most!
If Lou won us the series we finally knocked off Chicago, why was he pulled in favour of Schneider for game 6.
He was on his way to another meltdown, we were up 3-0. When threatened with loosing his spot, only then he came up big. The team won that series!
What we need is Lou to become a clutch goalie, rather than a great regular season goalie. Or find out if Schneider has ice in his veins as it would appear?
1st Round, We wouldn't have beat the Hawks without him, there is no way. Luongo was the main reason we won that series.
2nd Round, He was good in that series, not great but good, he didn't hurt us at all, but he wasn't the reason, Kesler carried us.
3rd Round, I agree that the sedins got us by them but he was just as good as Niemi if not better and he was much better at times, while we were so much better than the Sharks in that series I think that if he wasn't as good as he was it would have been much, much closer and we could possibly have lost.
Finals: He choked in Boston but the Bottom line is we would have been swept without him, he carried us in all 3 of our wins, he was the reason we won those games.
We wouldn't have gotten out of the 1st Round without him, and Overall he was our MVP throughout the entire run.
Just piling another basically the same opinion below.
And the response is the same. See above, Lou can be good all he wants in sometimes. Lou was the highest paid player in the league, at $10 mill LY, and its fair to expect him to be the best player on the ice, for both teams. Why not in the biggest games?
Is Lou elite, sure! He has higher career save %'s (by far) than Brodeur, than Miller, than Roy. He has carried our team for long stretches, and therefore would also be an absolutely legitimate trade piece in asking for key players from a team like Toronto. And he would help them.
Look, a Stanley Cup would elevate Lou's career to a legitimate ballot for the hall of fame. Two, would make him a first ballot lock in. But he's asking out because his ego has been bruised.
I'm not confident Lou will rise to championship calibre on his own. He gave us a good game in Chicago in fear of loosing his spot. He's asking out now rather than taking on his challenger. Its the wrong mentality, and why he breaks down in big games. Its why has not taken us to a championship!
I'd rather give our goalie stick in the next finals to Schneider
Exactly, but more to that. Luongo was the only reason the Canucks weren't swept by the Bruins embarassingly. They only played well in Game 2, every other game Luongo was hung out to dry. That's 5 goals in the other 6 games scored by our forwards which is a joke, and if they weren't scoring they were letting Boston forwards walk in on goal on countless breakaways and odd-man rushes.
Luongo was our best player last playoffs and he was our 2nd best player this playoffs behind only Schneider, but at the end of the day Schneider couldn't win those big games that Luongo could.
MG will be stupid to trade Luongo in Schneider's favour and throw away the only playoff hero we've had for a long time, which is why I don't buy any of this Toronto-B.S. Luongo's not going anywhere, and if he is, this team isn't winning a cup for at least another 5 seasons before Schneider can gain the experience and playoff heroics that Luongo earned over the years.
This, below, is the best argument I have heard for Schenn.
I'd rather have Schenn, who shoots right, has really good size, and lays down a tremendous amount of hits, and has had to endure his entire youth career in a horrible hockey franchise. He fits what we are looking for a lot more than Gardiner. He is 6'2 230 lbs, almost led the league in hitting. I think his potential worth is a lot more than Gardiner as well. He was the 5th overall pick overall. It's a lot easier to put up points on a crappy team then it is to be a 22 year old league standout as a shutdown d on a crappy team. Schenn is easily the better player for us to want ... IMNSHO.