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#91 Bodee

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Posted 09 June 2012 - 01:34 AM

I don't know if it's his weight as much as his playing style. He's not creative enough with the puck. How many times did we see him race down the wing then throw a weak shot on goal from a bad angle right into the goalie's chest? And he won't even stand in front of the net, which is the easiest way to score. Raymond has the legs of a 1st liner with the offensive hockey sense of a 4th liner.


About as many times as Booth and Kesler run into blind alleys and lost the puck. If we are being selective let's be fair.

We can all be part of this game where we concentrate on our least favourite player, ignore the serious injury he has just recovered from, watch for his every "perceived" mistake, ignore anything good that he does and then come on here and slaughter him.

I don't know if you have a kid who plays sports but how would you react to people on the sidelines using that criteria to assess him/her? It's bullish-t, no matter what level of sport the person plays at.

Edited by Bodee, 09 June 2012 - 01:41 AM.

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Posted 09 June 2012 - 02:38 AM

Gotta draft size and strength- best way to get bigger and stronger. Matt Martin a 5th round pick of the Isles is precisely the type of player the Canucks should draft in later rounds if possible. Enough with the finesse players. Can't stress that enough.


Yeah,Gillis' record at draft day leaves a lot to be desired.

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Posted 09 June 2012 - 09:11 AM

Losing Torres hurt in the long run. As much to do with the dissapointment in the 3rd line than anything. Bitz is bigger and just as fast but had no where near the experience. That said he makes one iffy hit against LA and sits the rest of the playoffs. Perhaps he had lingering effects from his hip injury but if not then AV abandoned the physical game early. The way that LA has steam rolled thru the playoffs maybe AV felt they had to outgun them.

I am hoping that Kassian gets at least a 4th line role with at least 10 minutes a game. Anything less and he may as well head to the Wolves. Van has to have a role for their young players on this team. Does not have to be top 6. NJD and LA 4th lines are playing significant minutes. Totally impressed that the LA team plays all their forwards on the PK. Talk about a team buy-in and concept.


Bitz is not as fast as Torres. Not even close.
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When the playoffs come around, nobody is scared of getting in a fight, but every night, they get their mom to check under the bed for Raffi Torres.

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Posted 09 June 2012 - 09:23 AM

They played something like a combined 4 games this post-season out of a possible 15. AV needs to try and implement size and grit more into his roster.

MG has done his best to get our team as big as possible with acquisitions such as Pinizotto, Kassian, Bitz, Weise, Booth and Higgins, but it all depends on how AV uses them and who he dresses.

Bitz would have had a Nolan or King-like playoffs if he wasn't suspended and then benched. This guy has about the same if not more offensive skill than Hansen but is twice as powerful. Instead AV has Raymond playing in out top-6 when Bitz is in the press box for our final game of the season.


Seriously leash in your bitz dream. Speculation at best that bitz would have had the production Dylan king had while playing on the fourth line?!?!? C'mon.

He showed his inexperience early with that suspendable hit. Meanwhile aside from the odd penalty King has played a regular shift, fore checked like a demon, scored timely goals, fought and been consistently physical. All this as a rookie.

Bitz has showed none of this at the NHL level on a consistent game to game basis
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When the playoffs come around, nobody is scared of getting in a fight, but every night, they get their mom to check under the bed for Raffi Torres.

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Posted 09 June 2012 - 10:11 AM

here are some bigger forwards the Canucks should try and aquire via free agency or trade: Corey Perry, Ryan Getzlaf, Jordan Staal, Scott Hartnell, Brendan Morrow, Steve Ott, Shane Doan, Chris Neil, Paul Gaustad, Brandon prust, travis Moen, jarrett Stoll

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Posted 09 June 2012 - 10:43 AM

The Canucks have to keep acquiring the big fast players on the verge.Bjugstad,Howden,Jenner etc.Then your big guys are always on the ice but affordable.

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Posted 09 June 2012 - 10:52 AM

here are some bigger forwards the Canucks should try and aquire via free agency or trade: Corey Perry, Ryan Getzlaf, Jordan Staal, Scott Hartnell, Brendan Morrow, Steve Ott, Shane Doan, Chris Neil, Paul Gaustad, Brandon prust, travis Moen, jarrett Stoll


good luck getting most of those guys, Ott isn't that big too and Morrow looks to be done. Out of that list the very very very very unlikely ones are Perry, Getz, Staal, Hartnell, Doen and Neil.

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Posted 10 June 2012 - 04:06 PM

here are some bigger forwards the Canucks should try and aquire via free agency or trade: Corey Perry, Ryan Getzlaf, Jordan Staal, Scott Hartnell, Brendan Morrow, Steve Ott, Shane Doan, Chris Neil, Paul Gaustad, Brandon prust, travis Moen, jarrett Stoll

You forgot Sidney Crosby and Evgeny Malkin....
Orland Kurtenbach and Dennis Kearns had just been torched 8-1 by the Habs, but they still took time to come out to meet us, some fellow BC boys who were playing hockey in Montreal. THAT"S what being a Canuck is!

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Posted 10 June 2012 - 07:19 PM

I don't know if it's his weight as much as his playing style. He's not creative enough with the puck. How many times did we see him race down the wing then throw a weak shot on goal from a bad angle right into the goalie's chest? And he won't even stand in front of the net, which is the easiest way to score. Raymond has the legs of a 1st liner with the offensive hockey sense of a 4th liner.


I still believe it's his weight. Look at the creative moves he's used in shoot outs, and on 3-3 play, he's dangerous. But he can't stand in front of the net, he gets moved way to easy. He gets out muscled in the corners every time. Again, with the shot from a bad angle, if he goes towards the net, he's just pushed down, or away.
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Posted 17 June 2012 - 09:33 AM

MG wants to get bigger and stronger so he's renegotiating with Mason Raymond ?
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Posted 17 June 2012 - 09:50 AM

We need a big hitter to fill the void left by Torres.

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Posted 17 June 2012 - 10:16 AM

Bitz is not as fast as Torres. Not even close.


To this day I'm still baffled as to why we didn't re-sign Torres. He was our unsung hero last run. If Torres had laid his Hossa hit on Brown or Kopitar, we would've won the Cup by now. Gladly have Torres suspended for 25 games if it means getting past the Kings.
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Posted 17 June 2012 - 10:27 AM

To this day I'm still baffled as to why we didn't re-sign Torres. He was our unsung hero last run. If Torres had laid his Hossa hit on Brown or Kopitar, we would've won the Cup by now. Gladly have Torres suspended for 25 games if it means getting past the Kings.


Apparently not liked in the lockerroom, fwiw.
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Posted 17 June 2012 - 03:29 PM

here are some bigger forwards the Canucks should try and aquire via free agency or trade: Corey Perry, Ryan Getzlaf, Jordan Staal, Scott Hartnell, Brendan Morrow, Steve Ott, Shane Doan, Chris Neil, Paul Gaustad, Brandon prust, travis Moen, jarrett Stoll

I like Doane the best out of those.

good luck getting most of those guys, Ott isn't that big too and Morrow looks to be done. Out of that list the very very very very unlikely ones are Perry, Getz, Staal, Hartnell, Doen and Neil.

Doen...deserves a shot at the cup, and might want to take it with the Canucks. Edit: A guy can dream, right?

We need a big hitter to fill the void left by Torres.

Hey, there's this guy Doane who'll do that for us!

He's an absolutely timeless quality (bit like Ray Whitney in that way). Leadership, experience, skills, toughness.
Plus he kicked ass on Mantracker. ::D

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Posted 17 June 2012 - 03:30 PM

I like Doane the best out of those.

Doen...deserves a shot at the cup, and might want to take it with the Canucks.

Hey, there's this guy Doane who'll do that for us!

He's an absolutely timeless quality (bit like Ray Whitney in that way). Leadership, experience, skills, toughness.
Plus he kicked ass on Mantracker. ::D


Yotes got farther in this years playoffs than the Canucks.... Doan loves where he is and doesn't want to move.

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Posted 17 June 2012 - 03:41 PM

Yotes got farther in this years playoffs than the Canucks.... Doan loves where he is and doesn't want to move.


I did put in an edit about dreaming, y'know...
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