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#361 smurf47

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Posted 13 June 2012 - 11:53 AM

I think everyone gets caught up in the emotion. Sure Luongo can still play at a hight level but can he get us to the promised land with his tendency to be either hot or cold. Shutouts one night and 5-7 goals the next is not consistant in anyones books. This situation will resolve itself within weeks and no amount of armchair GMs are going to change the teams course of action. Hindsight is 20/20. and Lou has provided us with opportunities and success better than any other goalie in team history. What he has done in the past, is in the past, and last season showed he has been bested by a young goalie. Its hockey, crap happens, move on and get over it. Team favourites get traded....and its going to happen here I'll bet.

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Posted 13 June 2012 - 11:57 AM

I like how people call people who defend Luongo "Luongo Lovers"

If Schneider got shat on as much as Luongo (which he probably will if he becomes the starter) I would defend him as well

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Posted 13 June 2012 - 12:01 PM

I like how people call people who defend Luongo "Luongo Lovers"

If Schneider got shat on as much as Luongo (which he probably will if he becomes the starter) I would defend him as well


Undoubtedly.

We're going to be right back here at some point within the season or playoffs when Schneider puts together a bad stretch of games and people will be calling for his head juts like Luongo's. This fan base is incredibly predictable.
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Posted 13 June 2012 - 05:48 PM

I think everyone gets caught up in the emotion. Sure Luongo can still play at a hight level but can he get us to the promised land with his tendency to be either hot or cold. Shutouts one night and 5-7 goals the next is not consistant in anyones books. This situation will resolve itself within weeks and no amount of armchair GMs are going to change the teams course of action. Hindsight is 20/20. and Lou has provided us with opportunities and success better than any other goalie in team history. What he has done in the past, is in the past, and last season showed he has been bested by a young goalie. Its hockey, crap happens, move on and get over it. Team favourites get traded....and its going to happen here I'll bet.


Jonathan Quick says Hello.

Sun 10/30 Loss 2-3 .813SV%

Thu 11/3 Loss 0-3 .889SV%

Tue 12/6 Loss 2-3 .889SV%

Thu 12/8 Loss 2-4 .833SV%

Tue 12/13 Loss 0-3 .864SV%

Sat 12/17 Loss 2-8 .571SV%

Sun 1/29 Loss 9-12 .769SV%

Thu 2/9 Loss 1-3 .818SV%

Tue 2/21 Loss 5-6 .862SV%

Wed 2/22 Loss 1-4 .727SV%

Tue 3/6 Win 5-4 .846SV%

Fri 3/9 Loss 3-4 .733SV%

Sat 3/24 Loss 2-4 .880SV%

Thu 4/5 Loss 5-6 .839SV%

Sat 4/7 Loss 2-3 .870SV%

Thats 15 games with a SV% below .890 for Quick.
Luongo has 17 games below .890.
Thomas 19 games below .890.
Howard 16 games below .890.
Rinne 22 games below .890.
Fluery 27 games below .890.
Lundqvist was best at 12 games below .890.

Every good goalie has bad games, the expectations from alot of Vancouver fans are out to lunch.

Edited by beer&meat, 13 June 2012 - 06:01 PM.

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Posted 13 June 2012 - 06:01 PM

Quick did play 14 more regular season games than Lu,but regular season is not Lu's problem. Lu had 1 game over .890 and 1 game under in the playoffs,,Quick played 20 playoff games and had zero below .890.

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Posted 13 June 2012 - 06:10 PM

Quick did play 14 more regular season games than Lu,but regular season is not Lu's problem. Lu had 1 game over .890 and 1 game under in the playoffs,,Quick played 20 playoff games and had zero below .890.



Vancouver also took over 40 minutes in penalties in the first 2 games (the 2 Luongo played in)
I was however responding to Smurf and his comment about being able to win while not being consistant.
Him and many other fans idea of consistant is 1 or less goals everynight, which is ridiculous.

There is no doubt that Quick elevated his game, just as T.T. did last year for the finals (but not the entire playoffs)
which Luongo has failed to do (elevated game) consistantly throughout the playoffs.

Edited by beer&meat, 13 June 2012 - 06:12 PM.

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Posted 13 June 2012 - 06:27 PM

i don't even consider a .890 save % to be horrendous, it's not great but it's not terrible once you get down around .850 or lower that's what i consider bad

Edited by Tm085, 13 June 2012 - 06:27 PM.


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Posted 13 June 2012 - 06:31 PM

Stats are really useless, just watch em play and judge accordingly.

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Posted 13 June 2012 - 06:33 PM

Vancouver also took over 40 minutes in penalties in the first 2 games (the 2 Luongo played in)
I was however responding to Smurf and his comment about being able to win while not being consistant.
Him and many other fans idea of consistant is 1 or less goals everynight, which is ridiculous.

There is no doubt that Quick elevated his game, just as T.T. did last year for the finals (but not the entire playoffs)
which Luongo has failed to do (elevated game) consistantly throughout the playoffs.


20 of them minutes were 10 minute misconducts to Lappy and Hansen which does not affect man advantage.

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Posted 13 June 2012 - 07:56 PM

Jonathan Quick says Hello.

Sun 10/30 Loss 2-3 .813SV%

Thu 11/3 Loss 0-3 .889SV%

Tue 12/6 Loss 2-3 .889SV%

Thu 12/8 Loss 2-4 .833SV%

Tue 12/13 Loss 0-3 .864SV%

Sat 12/17 Loss 2-8 .571SV%

Sun 1/29 Loss 9-12 .769SV%

Thu 2/9 Loss 1-3 .818SV%

Tue 2/21 Loss 5-6 .862SV%

Wed 2/22 Loss 1-4 .727SV%

Tue 3/6 Win 5-4 .846SV%

Fri 3/9 Loss 3-4 .733SV%

Sat 3/24 Loss 2-4 .880SV%

Thu 4/5 Loss 5-6 .839SV%

Sat 4/7 Loss 2-3 .870SV%

Thats 15 games with a SV% below .890 for Quick.
Luongo has 17 games below .890.
Thomas 19 games below .890.
Howard 16 games below .890.
Rinne 22 games below .890.
Fluery 27 games below .890.
Lundqvist was best at 12 games below .890.

Every good goalie has bad games, the expectations from alot of Vancouver fans are out to lunch.


The playoffs say hi.

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Posted 13 June 2012 - 08:15 PM

The playoffs say hi.


Very insightful as usuall Nino, you always bring so much to a conversation.
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Posted 13 June 2012 - 08:28 PM

Undoubtedly.

We're going to be right back here at some point within the season or playoffs when Schneider puts together a bad stretch of games and people will be calling for his head juts like Luongo's. This fan base is incredibly predictable.


Not too many people call for Luongo's head during the regular season, he performs pretty well consistently there aside from his Octobers. The trouble is that it's all about the playoffs now. Luongo had some of his worst games ever in the three playoffs prior to the one against LA, that is why many people want him in another jersey.
So until Schneider strings together two or three playoff implosions(throw in a couple during elimination games), I dont think he will get much static from this fanbase.

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Posted 13 June 2012 - 08:58 PM

Not too many people call for Luongo's head during the regular season, he performs pretty well consistently there aside from his Octobers. The trouble is that it's all about the playoffs now. Luongo had some of his worst games ever in the three playoffs prior to the one against LA, that is why many people want him in another jersey.
So until Schneider strings together two or three playoff implosions(throw in a couple during elimination games), I dont think he will get much static from this fanbase.



100% agree. People say Van is a goalie graveyard, but whre else cal you have 3-4 implosions in 3 years and still have support from at 1/2 the fanbase.

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Posted 13 June 2012 - 09:51 PM

I want Luongo to be traded so this conversation can be put to rest.

I couldn't help myself I had to look.

I was shocked

Its the same thing over and over and over

and over.

again.
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Posted 13 June 2012 - 10:14 PM

I want Luongo to be traded so this conversation can be put to rest.

I couldn't help myself I had to look.

I was shocked

Its the same thing over and over and over

and over.

again.


Then the SCHNEIDER threads can start by the same idiots bashing Luongo after Schneider doesn't win the cup his first year :towel:

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Posted 13 June 2012 - 10:38 PM

Beer and meat...no where in these opinions does it mention anyone remotely suggesting that we expect consistancy of one goal a game...speaking of ridiculous...that was..on your part...and as for tm085...you won;t find many starters in the NHL keeping their starting job at SP under .900.

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Posted 13 June 2012 - 11:15 PM

Beer and meat...no where in these opinions does it mention anyone remotely suggesting that we expect consistancy of one goal a game...speaking of ridiculous...that was..on your part...and as for tm085...you won;t find many starters in the NHL keeping their starting job at SP under .900.


If it's consistently under .900 then no obviously not, but having a few games where it;s under .900 isn't bad. every goalie in the league has alot of those in a year, a shutout will more than balance that out

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Posted 14 June 2012 - 04:52 PM

Beer and meat...no where in these opinions does it mention anyone remotely suggesting that we expect consistancy of one goal a game...speaking of ridiculous...that was..on your part...and as for tm085...you won;t find many starters in the NHL keeping their starting job at SP under .900.


So if you don't mind me asking, what are your expectations?
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Posted 15 June 2012 - 06:35 AM

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