timberz21 Posted June 12, 2012 Share Posted June 12, 2012 Resigning of Bieksa, Sedins, Kesler, Burrows, Luongo, Higgins, Lapierre, Hansen, LA, traded for Richards, Carter, Penner, Stoll, sign UFA Mitchell, Scuderi Yeah Loyalty will win you a cup?!?!? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heretic Posted June 12, 2012 Share Posted June 12, 2012 LOL - what a joke. It's the players that have no loyalty. Been like that since the early 90's - thanks in part to free agency. These players don't care about you as long as you pay good money to see them play. These players care about one thing only - money. All these players could have stayed but they wanted more money. Even the mighty Trevor Linden left for "greener" pastures. Loyalty? What a joke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeyBoy44 Posted June 12, 2012 Share Posted June 12, 2012 Even the mighty Trevor Linden left for "greener" pastures. Loyalty? What a joke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUPERTKBD Posted June 12, 2012 Share Posted June 12, 2012 I don't understand how the OP got 16 pluses for this post, but it's utter garbage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cs2016 Posted June 12, 2012 Share Posted June 12, 2012 You guys can talk as much crap as you want about Ehrhoff, but we would've won the Cup last year if he was healthy. Probably would've gone deep if we still had him. He ran our team offensively from the back end. God i would kill to get Ehrhoff back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cs2016 Posted June 12, 2012 Share Posted June 12, 2012 LOL - what a joke. It's the players that have no loyalty. Been like that since the early 90's - thanks in part to free agency. These players don't care about you as long as you pay good money to see them play. These players care about one thing only - money. All these players could have stayed but they wanted more money. Even the mighty Trevor Linden left for "greener" pastures. Loyalty? What a joke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tjkaemingh Posted June 12, 2012 Share Posted June 12, 2012 HA HA OP, very funny. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cs2016 Posted June 12, 2012 Share Posted June 12, 2012 Forced Hodgson out because the coach hated him. We had a struggling Kelser who was injured and the management knew it yet we got played like fools. The bigger story was why did Hodgson leave. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dogbyte Posted June 12, 2012 Share Posted June 12, 2012 Did not sign Carter back in 06 after a career season then tried to get cheaper version of him by going after Pyatt, Beirner and god knows who else. That was a pretty big fail. Told Ehhroff to take a hike. If players don't feel wanted here, why should they sign with the organization? Look at the teams that have won the cup, it starts with great defense. Fact: Ehhroff made Edler. Let Mitchell walk that was a defensive beast but only made 1 mistake (how many mistakes AV has made?) Let Torres walk who confronted anyone that looked at the team wrong. Also won 1 game of the finals for us. How many wins do the Sedins have for us? Trade Sammuelson who was pretty much the heart of the team. Forced Hodgson out because the coach hated him. We had a struggling Kelser who was injured and the management knew it yet we got played like fools. The bigger story was why did Hodgson leave. Can't seem to get the others off the top off my head, but this is a major issue. Managements treats players like assets, they only care about signing players for cheap, not signing players to win games. We have overpaid players that dont' seem to fit AV's description of a player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cs2016 Posted June 12, 2012 Share Posted June 12, 2012 Teams need to get rid of players to become better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul_Kariya28 Posted June 12, 2012 Share Posted June 12, 2012 This is just stupid, trades happen all the time, Just look at LA, they made a couple of major trades, and they won the cup. Face it, the Canucks are just not a very good team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shift-4 Posted June 12, 2012 Share Posted June 12, 2012 Every one of those "points" you made has either been utterly twisted or is a complete lie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shift-4 Posted June 12, 2012 Share Posted June 12, 2012 Double postarama This gives me an excellent opportunity to say I LIKE PUMPKIN PIE!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wegogreycup Posted June 12, 2012 Share Posted June 12, 2012 You all make wonderful points but here's a fact: The team that wins the Cup has an elite, superstar on 'D'. Period. LA has one - Doughty. Detroit did too but he's too old now and has retired. It happens every year. Without one - you lose. The Canucks have NEVER had one. Until they do.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heretic Posted June 12, 2012 Share Posted June 12, 2012 When did linden leave because of money? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shift-4 Posted June 12, 2012 Share Posted June 12, 2012 You all make wonderful points but here's a fact: The team that wins the Cup has an elite, superstar on 'D'. Period. LA has one - Doughty. Detroit did too but he's too old now and has retired. It happens every year. Without one - you lose. The Canucks have NEVER had one. Until they do.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-DLC- Posted June 12, 2012 Share Posted June 12, 2012 Ridiculous. Some of the names are not heart and soul connected to the team guys and were picked up to see how they'd fit. Plus, that's how hockey works - you make guys offers and sometimes they aren't accepted so you move on. But to say this team isn't loyal - they've got guys (Bieksa, Burr, Kes, Sedins) who have developed here from early on - so, no. You contradict yourself here: Managements treats players like assets, they only care about signing players for cheap, not signing players to win games. We have overpaid players that dont' seem to fit AV's description of a player. So, which one is it? - do we look for the bargain basement deals or overpay guys? Of course management treat players like assets - to a business, that's what they are. But this team is the frontrunner in how to treat players - they get the concept of providing the best environment possible in order to motivate the guys. They have the best, state of the art (revamped) facilities, have provisions in place (like the sleep doctors/watches) to support the grueling schedule and physical demands of their road travel, etc. Nope. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TOMapleLaughs Posted June 12, 2012 Share Posted June 12, 2012 We certainly needed Anson Carter this season. He's still playing, right? Jeez, pretty much every player move can be twisted into loyalty/non-loyalty. You think the Kings have been loyal to all their guys? Hell no. Let's just start with Ryan Smyth. Jack Johnson? Frolov. Handzus. Cammalleri. Visnovsky. Rob Blake. Patrick O'Sullivan. If they had to be 'loyal' to all those guys, then wtf? It's a business, not a hobby. And you can't keep everybody. What a freakin' fail of a thread. Cheers. TOML Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miles.p Posted June 12, 2012 Author Share Posted June 12, 2012 Ridiculous. Some of the names are not heart and soul connected to the team guys and were picked up to see how they'd fit. Plus, that's how hockey works - you make guys offers and sometimes they aren't accepted so you move on. But to say this team isn't loyal - they've got guys (Bieksa, Burr, Kes, Sedins) who have developed here from early on - so, no. You contradict yourself here: Managements treats players like assets, they only care about signing players for cheap, not signing players to win games. We have overpaid players that dont' seem to fit AV's description of a player. So, which one is it? - do we look for the bargain basement deals or overpay guys? Of course management treat players like assets - to a business, that's what they are. But this team is the frontrunner in how to treat players - they get the concept of providing the best environment possible in order to motivate the guys. They have the best, state of the art (revamped) facilities, have provisions in place (like the sleep doctors/watches) to support the grueling schedule and physical demands of their road travel, etc. Nope. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CANUCKLELION Posted June 12, 2012 Share Posted June 12, 2012 Sorry, double post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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