miles.p Posted June 12, 2012 Share Posted June 12, 2012 Did not sign Carter back in 06 after a career season then tried to get cheaper version of him by going after Pyatt, Beirner and god knows who else. That was a pretty big fail. Told Ehhroff to take a hike. If players don't feel wanted here, why should they sign with the organization? Look at the teams that have won the cup, it starts with great defense. Fact: Ehhroff made Edler. Let Mitchell walk that was a defensive beast but only made 1 mistake (how many mistakes AV has made?) Let Torres walk who confronted anyone that looked at the team wrong. Also won 1 game of the finals for us. How many wins do the Sedins have for us? Trade Sammuelson who was pretty much the heart of the team. Forced Hodgson out because the coach hated him. We had a struggling Kelser who was injured and the management knew it yet we got played like fools. The bigger story was why did Hodgson leave. Can't seem to get the others off the top off my head, but this is a major issue. Managements treats players like assets, they only care about signing players for cheap, not signing players to win games. We have overpaid players that dont' seem to fit AV's description of a player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tigs Posted June 12, 2012 Share Posted June 12, 2012 That last sentence is so uncalled for, neverminding the fact that a lot of those players we either: a) couldn't sign, b ) they were at the peak of their potential and going downhill, or c) we traded them in hopes of getting better in the now. P.S. Ever heard of the Sedins, Burrows, Edler, and Kesler? Yeah, no loyalty at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jägermeister Posted June 12, 2012 Share Posted June 12, 2012 Ehrhoff and Carter wanted way too much money. Their greed is why we did not resign them. They showed no loyalty to us. Mitchell was a gamble, his career was in jeopardy and he wanted a long-term deal, it was sad to see him go, but at the time it did not look like a good decision to keep him. Torres was a 3rd liner, who played 1 year for us, players like him come and go every year for every team. Sammuelsson is the only player who was treated like an asset. Regardless players get traded, deal with it. Hodgson (and his Pa) wanted out. He couldn't deal with being a 3rd liner, and whether you blame him or AV for that feud, he showed he was not loyal to our team by asking to leave rather than get through the ordeal for the better of the team. Sometimes teams get rid of players who you like. Hockey is a business, and the GMs do what they can to put together a winning team. LA just won the Cup with a core of new players, by your logic by letting go of Schenn, Simmonds, Johnson, Handzus, Ponikarovsky, Smyth, Harrold, and Sturm (all since the beginning of last year) they showed no loyalty, and would therefore never win a Cup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smashian Kassian Posted June 12, 2012 Share Posted June 12, 2012 Carter is overrated, the Sedins are the only reason he was even offered an NHL contract the season after. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cause=Time Posted June 12, 2012 Share Posted June 12, 2012 Every one of those "points" you made has either been utterly twisted or is a complete lie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miles.p Posted June 12, 2012 Author Share Posted June 12, 2012 That last sentence is so uncalled for, neverminding the fact that a lot of those players we either: a) couldn't sign, b ) they were at the peak of their potential and going downhill, or c) we traded them in hopes of getting better in the now. P.S. Ever heard of the Sedins, Burrows, Edler, and Kesler? Yeah, no loyalty at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafizzle Posted June 12, 2012 Share Posted June 12, 2012 Stupidest thread of the night goes to you. Congrats Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
etsen3 Posted June 12, 2012 Share Posted June 12, 2012 You act like we're the only team who has ever made a trade or lost someone to free agency. 1. If we had kept Anson Carter, we may have never discover Burrows, ever though of that? 2. Hodgson wasn't forced out, he asked for a trade. 3. Samuelsson, the heart of the team? He did a good job here, but no. 4. Ehrhoff was never TOLD to take a hike, he left all on his own for a ridiculous contract. 5. You also said the Canucks are too concerned about signing players for cheap, then you said the Canucks have overpaid players. How does that work? Oh and how many games have the Sedins won for us? Too many to count. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miles.p Posted June 12, 2012 Author Share Posted June 12, 2012 Every one of those "points" you made has either been utterly twisted or is a complete lie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tigs Posted June 12, 2012 Share Posted June 12, 2012 But you can't deny the fact that those were great supporting casts that complemented well with the team. Also please don't include Eder in any other conversation. He was Kings best player in the first round. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miles.p Posted June 12, 2012 Author Share Posted June 12, 2012 typical CDC posts, bash the poster, not the actual post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miles.p Posted June 12, 2012 Author Share Posted June 12, 2012 Lolwut? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goatbeards48 Posted June 12, 2012 Share Posted June 12, 2012 I feel like we're all getting trolled Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hockeyville88 Posted June 12, 2012 Share Posted June 12, 2012 Those are called trades. It's how a team works. You have to give a little to get a little. The Kings traded away a #3 drafted player in Jack Johnson just to get Jeff Carter. They gave away Simmonds and Schenn to get Richards. Those are risky moves that paid off. What's to say that ours won't? PS I'm trying to give this thread a chance to survive but it's not going very well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tigs Posted June 12, 2012 Share Posted June 12, 2012 typical CDC posts, bash the poster, not the actual post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miles.p Posted June 12, 2012 Author Share Posted June 12, 2012 Carter is overrated, the Sedins are the only reason he was even offered an NHL contract the season after. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miles.p Posted June 12, 2012 Author Share Posted June 12, 2012 Those are called trades. It's how a team works. You have to give a little to get a little. The Kings traded away a #3 drafted player in Jack Johnson just to get Jeff Carter. They gave away Simmonds and Schenn to get Richards. Those are risky moves that paid off. What's to say that ours won't? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miles.p Posted June 12, 2012 Author Share Posted June 12, 2012 You act like we're the only team who has ever made a trade or lost someone to free agency. 1. If we had kept Anson Carter, we may have never discover Burrows, ever though of that? 2. Hodgson wasn't forced out, he asked for a trade. 3. Samuelsson, the heart of the team? He did a good job here, but no. 4. Ehrhoff was never TOLD to take a hike, he left all on his own for a ridiculous contract. 5. You also said the Canucks are too concerned about signing players for cheap, then you said the Canucks have overpaid players. How does that work? Oh and how many games have the Sedins won for us? Too many to count. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hockeyville88 Posted June 12, 2012 Share Posted June 12, 2012 Haven't yet. How long do we have to wait? And not all were trades, the canucks let them walk away. Letting them walk away is better than signing them to undeserved contracts that cash strap our team. Anson Carter demanded $3 million per season because he thought he made the Sedins. Turns out that the Sedins made him because he never put up the numbers he did with the Canucks and he's no longer in the NHL. Burrows makes $2 mill and him taking that discount along with Hamhuis, Bieksa, Sedins, Luongo, etc. allowed us to put together an elite team that, yes fell apart during the playoffs, but still won the President's Trophy, and is primed to be successful in the future Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darkstar Posted June 12, 2012 Share Posted June 12, 2012 Did not sign Carter back in 06 after a career season then tried to get cheaper version of him by going after Pyatt, Beirner and god knows who else. That was a pretty big fail. Told Ehhroff to take a hike. If players don't feel wanted here, why should they sign with the organization? Look at the teams that have won the cup, it starts with great defense. Fact: Ehhroff made Edler. Let Mitchell walk that was a defensive beast but only made 1 mistake (how many mistakes AV has made?) Let Torres walk who confronted anyone that looked at the team wrong. Also won 1 game of the finals for us. How many wins do the Sedins have for us? Trade Sammuelson who was pretty much the heart of the team. Forced Hodgson out because the coach hated him. We had a struggling Kelser who was injured and the management knew it yet we got played like fools. The bigger story was why did Hodgson leave. Can't seem to get the others off the top off my head, but this is a major issue. Managements treats players like assets, they only care about signing players for cheap, not signing players to win games. We have overpaid players that dont' seem to fit AV's description of a player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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