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#1 stexx

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Posted 13 June 2012 - 02:55 PM

as per darren dreger

@DarrenDreger: Canucks file "cutdown" arbitration on Mason Raymond. Q.O is $2.6 million. Salary can't drop more than to $2.21 million if Van wins arb case.

interesting, even at 2.21mil i dont think raymond can fill the goods. wonder what gillis's gameplan is with this one.

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Posted 13 June 2012 - 02:57 PM

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Posted 13 June 2012 - 02:58 PM

Sign and trade him.

Hes worth more if he's signed.

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Posted 13 June 2012 - 02:58 PM

The Vancouver Canucks filed 'cutdown' arbitration with forward Mason Raymond on Wednesday, instead of making a qualifying offer.
Last season, Raymond made $2.6 million and the arbitrator may not award a salary less than 85% of that amount or $2.21 million.
It's a Club Elected Salary Arbitration for players who were making more than $1.5 million per season.
Last season, Raymond had 10 goals and 10 assists for 20 points in 55 games.


http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=398320

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Posted 13 June 2012 - 02:59 PM

Raymond is not worth more than Burrows...then again Burrows is worth alot more than the 2mil he's making

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Posted 13 June 2012 - 02:59 PM

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Posted 13 June 2012 - 03:00 PM

Bringing down his caphit will make him more appealing in a trade.

Good on Gillis.

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Posted 13 June 2012 - 03:02 PM

Raymond is not worth more than Burrows...then again Burrows is worth alot more than the 2mil he's making


As you mentioned, this has more to do with Burrows only making about half of what he would earn on the open market.

Raymond would probably fetch 2-3 mil if he was a UFA.

Smart move by MG, if they win the case he will have a better bargaining chip to trade, and less of a risk if they keep him.
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Posted 13 June 2012 - 03:06 PM

honestly i like raymond and hope the best for him

but thats way to much to pay for a guy whos basically 2nd line or bust
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Posted 13 June 2012 - 03:07 PM

At less any less than the qualifying offer, it isn't really a bad deal for the money.
There would be a few team who might want Raymond signed at that price.

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Posted 13 June 2012 - 03:07 PM

Still way too much......

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Posted 13 June 2012 - 03:08 PM

WHY ARE YOU YELLING... ALSO THERE IS ALREADY ANOTHER THREAD ON IT..

THANK YOU,

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Posted 13 June 2012 - 03:09 PM

I don't want Raymond back for any amount of money. He's a progress stopper for a bunch of young players that haven't already hit their ceiling (Schroeder, Jensen, etc)

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Posted 13 June 2012 - 03:09 PM

Just trade/cut/minors/waive the damn guy in December if he can't find his groove by then, that's if he ever had one...

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Posted 13 June 2012 - 03:12 PM

WHY ARE YOU YELLING... ALSO THERE IS ALREADY ANOTHER THREAD ON IT..

THANK YOU,


He copied and pasted the TSN article headline...

Edited by Pavel Datsyuk, 13 June 2012 - 03:12 PM.

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Posted 13 June 2012 - 03:15 PM

if the canucks take him to arbitration can he be traded? or is the no-trade for a year with offersheets only? - also where do they get the 2.21 mil? can he only get a 15% paycut? (what a stupid rule if so)

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Posted 13 June 2012 - 03:17 PM

so what does this actually mean?

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Posted 13 June 2012 - 03:18 PM

As you mentioned, this has more to do with Burrows only making about half of what he would earn on the open market.

Raymond would probably fetch 2-3 mil if he was a UFA.

Smart move by MG, if they win the case he will have a better bargaining chip to trade, and less of a risk if they keep him.


Are you on drugs? Raymond worth 2-3 million dollars? Maybe 2-3 million pucks but not dollars.

He's an RFA and would be worth more to the team if they let him walk, let someone else put in an offer sheet, and collect a draft pick coming our way.
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Posted 13 June 2012 - 03:18 PM

Just trade/cut/minors/waive the damn guy in December if he can't find his groove by then, that's if he ever had one...

the only groove Raymond will find is in a chair in the pressbox.

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Posted 13 June 2012 - 03:21 PM

the only a$$-groove Raymond will find is in a chair in the pressbox.

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Posted 13 June 2012 - 03:22 PM

His bargaining position is low; he does not have a lot of leverage to demand a huge increase. He is coming off a poor season because he could not train like he should have, and his conditioning was not were it needed to be at the time he came back. The good news is that the Canucks recognize this, and they are trying to protect their asset from poaching.

If I were Raymond, at the hearing, I would demand a one year contract. All this should help motivate him to have a better season.

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Posted 13 June 2012 - 03:22 PM

Hmm interesting, so I guess that means Raymond's coming back?

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Posted 13 June 2012 - 03:23 PM

Isn't there some sort of clause where:
- if a 'team' selects arbitration, said player can't be traded within 12 months?

I feel like I heard this somewhere? Anyone know?

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Imagine Raymond isn't feeling too badly about this.Worst-case scenario is 15% pay cut and he's still making more than $2.2 million.


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Gilman on Raymond: "Mason is an important part of our team and . . . we plan for Mason to be a component of this team going forward."


Edited by RunningWild, 13 June 2012 - 03:30 PM.


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Posted 13 June 2012 - 03:23 PM

I still think Raymond can be a good player.

Him at one year for 2.21 million is a lot less risky than the Avs having David Jones for 4 years at 4 million per.

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Posted 13 June 2012 - 03:24 PM

I believe this will be a sign and trade
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Posted 13 June 2012 - 03:25 PM

Hmm interesting, so I guess that means Raymond's coming back?


Could mean a sign and trade as well
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Posted 13 June 2012 - 03:26 PM

We'll trade you Antropov for Raymond.

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Posted 13 June 2012 - 03:26 PM

Are you on drugs? Raymond worth 2-3 million dollars? Maybe 2-3 million pucks but not dollars.

Well a hockey puck is worth approximately $1 so........
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Posted 13 June 2012 - 03:27 PM

Bringing down his caphit will make him more appealing in a trade.

Good on Gillis.


My Exact thought when I heard the news.

Sign and Trade. (hopefully)

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Posted 13 June 2012 - 03:28 PM

We'll trade you Antropov for Raymond.

Yes please! Lol.

In my eyes drouin is overrated he can score in the qmjhl but did nothing in last two gold medal games that canada lost. Fox will be better pro than him talk to me in five yrs


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