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#1 babych

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Posted 14 June 2012 - 05:46 PM

I live in Calgary and listen to The Fan 960 regulary. Yesterday they had a reporter from Columbus on talking about the disaster of a season the Blue Jackets had. He was talking about how everything went wrong from the Carter trade to losing the lottery. Anyway, what caught my interest was that he stated that CBJ really wanted Schnieder and were prepared to make a "major offer" for him. He then went on to say that Schnieder is now untouchable due to his taking over the starter position in the playoffs and that Luongo is in play if Columbus wanted a goaltender.

He was citing this as another example of how things have gone south in Columbus: the goalie they really wanted is now untouchable, etc.

Anyway, thoughts on what Columbus would be (or was) willing to give up to get Schnieder? Plus, if Vancouver goes with Luongo does that make Schnieder's trade value all that much higher?

There's no way that CBJ would be wanting to put their 2nd overall pick in a package to get Schnieder, is there?

Edit: the reporter in question is Aaron Portzline, who is the Blue Jackets beat reporter with the Columbus Dispatch.

Edited by babych, 14 June 2012 - 06:01 PM.

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Posted 14 June 2012 - 05:52 PM

I'm guessing Carter for Schneider when they still had Carter, I don't think they would trade Nash for just Schneider.

Edited by yogolol, 14 June 2012 - 05:52 PM.

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Posted 14 June 2012 - 05:54 PM

I'm guessing Carter for Schneider when they still had Carter, I don't think they would trade Nash for just Schneider.


My idea would be
Carter for Schneider + 1st
(similar layout to the Jack Johnson + 1st)
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Posted 14 June 2012 - 05:56 PM

Hmm, I'm sure Gillis is just trying to increase Schneider's value by saying they can't have him.

If they really are prepared to make a major offer, Gillis would at least have to consider it.

Their major assets are Nash, Johansen, and their 2nd overall pick. Schneider doesn't get you any one of those on his own, but maybe as part of a bigger package. Johansen and/or the 2nd overall pick would be great assets to flip for somone like Weber.
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Posted 14 June 2012 - 05:56 PM

I thought it was Schneider + Hodgson + 3 1sts for Nash?
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Posted 14 June 2012 - 05:56 PM

Would this have worked?

To Vancouver: Nash + Carter + 1st

To Columbus: Schneider + Booth + Ballard
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Posted 14 June 2012 - 05:56 PM

I'm guessing Carter for Schneider when they still had Carter, I don't think they would trade Nash for just Schneider.


I think they might.

Major salary dump (Schneider gets $3.5m+/-)
They get a future franchise goalie and likely the best goalie on the market which they desparately need
Nash wants out and every GM knows it

More picks or strength in positions they already have covered aren't going to help them. THey need a goalie in the worst way and Schneider could be the difference maker for them.

I doubt they go Nash for Luongo though.
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Posted 14 June 2012 - 05:59 PM

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Posted 14 June 2012 - 06:00 PM

Schneider + Raymond + 1st for Nash?
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Posted 14 June 2012 - 06:01 PM

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^^ Dont forget Luongo gets to pick where he wants to go, I'll bet my townhouse that Columbus is not one if his selections.
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Posted 14 June 2012 - 06:05 PM

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I thought it was Schneider + Hodgson + 3 1sts for Nash?


Good lord, no GM would ever make that deal. That's 5 first rounders for Nash! Yikes!

Would this have worked?

To Vancouver: Nash + Carter + 1st

To Columbus: Schneider + Booth + Ballard


lol I really hope you're being sarcastic. May as well throw Raymond in there and get their 1st for next year too ;)

Edited by Hafizzle, 14 June 2012 - 06:05 PM.

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Posted 14 June 2012 - 06:08 PM

Samjam reported that CBJ wanted Schneider, Hodgson, and THREE 1st rounders for Nash at the trade deadline.
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Posted 14 June 2012 - 06:10 PM

Be intersting to know if the offer for Schnieder was before or after the Carter trade.If it was before it would of been crazy to be able to get Voracek.
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Posted 14 June 2012 - 06:11 PM

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Samjam reported that CBJ wanted Schneider, Hodgson, and THREE 1st rounders for Nash at the trade deadline.


So we know it's not true then
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Posted 14 June 2012 - 06:19 PM

Be intersting to know if the offer for Schnieder was before or after the Carter trade.If it was before it would of been crazy to be able to get Voracek.


Portzline seemed to indicate that the offer was going to be made in the off-season as it was Schnieder taking over the number 1 duties that scuttled the deal and that didn't happen until the end of the season.
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Posted 14 June 2012 - 06:23 PM

Hmm, I'm sure Gillis is just trying to increase Schneider's value by saying they can't have him.

If they really are prepared to make a major offer, Gillis would at least have to consider it.

Their major assets are Nash, Johansen, and their 2nd overall pick. Schneider doesn't get you any one of those on his own, but maybe as part of a bigger package. Johansen and/or the 2nd overall pick would be great assets to flip for somone like Weber.


I like the way you think! Whatever moves we do, there is really only one major upgrade we can do in our lineup and that is get a top defenceman. A 2nd line winger would be good, but wouldn't make the same impact.

So if we are making moves for picks/prospects... then hopefully it in simply part of the process to get a guy like Weber.
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Posted 14 June 2012 - 06:24 PM

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Posted 14 June 2012 - 06:25 PM

Two things, 1) If the Canucks trade Schnieder, can they now go back to Luongo to be the starting goalie? 2) If the Canucks want to trade Luongo to CBJ, would Luongo want to wave his no trade contract to go to a non contender?
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Posted 14 June 2012 - 06:25 PM

Samjam reported that CBJ wanted Schneider, Hodgson, and THREE 1st rounders for Nash at the trade deadline.

I somewhat recall the offer being Schneider, Hodgson, Tanev, and a 1st for Nash. Not sure if that's exact though.
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Posted 14 June 2012 - 06:27 PM

If the return is significant and more than what we can get for Luongo, I'd trade Schneider and keep Luongo. Goaltending was not our problem - we're fine with either player for the next 5 years (with Schneider, more). If the return fixes our scoring problem and/or our defense, then yes.
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Posted 14 June 2012 - 06:29 PM

Why do people keep bringing up Mason Raymonds name in trade talks? I understand that if the Canucks resign Mason Raymond as a RFA, they cannot trade him for a year.
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Posted 14 June 2012 - 06:30 PM

MG should go for the Schneider trade. He should just push it until CBJ gives him a good enough deal like Schneids and ballard for Nash and 1st
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Posted 14 June 2012 - 06:34 PM

luongo is a very good starting goalie and should be good for a while and i would be more than comfortable keeping him cuz he can carry a team when needed making crazy unbelievable saves, so far schneider has not proved he can do that
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Posted 14 June 2012 - 06:34 PM

Why do people keep bringing up Mason Raymonds name in trade talks? I understand that if the Canucks resign Mason Raymond as a RFA, they cannot trade him for a year.


As I posted in another thread on Raymond (Source is Darren Dreger's twitter account on the TSN website) - the Canucks cannot walk away from the arbitrator's decision - however there is nothing stopping them from trading Raymond before or after the decision.
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Posted 14 June 2012 - 06:35 PM

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Why do people keep bringing up Mason Raymonds name in trade talks? I understand that if the Canucks resign Mason Raymond as a RFA, they cannot trade him for a year.


Because that isn't true and you made it up.
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Posted 14 June 2012 - 06:47 PM

Could you imagine if CBJ made a offer the Canucks could not refuse for Schneider. Something like...

Van: Schneider, Raymond, 1st Round Pick (2012)

CBJ: J. Johnson, Boll, Johansen, 3rd Round Pick (2012)

As a Canucks fan would you accept that or want more? (Remember Columbus would be the one making this offer.)
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Posted 14 June 2012 - 06:55 PM

Could you imagine if CBJ made a offer the Canucks could not refuse for Schneider. Something like...

Van: Schneider, Raymond, 1st Round Pick (2012)

CBJ: J. Johnson, Boll, Johansen, 3rd Round Pick (2012)

As a Canucks fan would you accept that or want more? (Remember Columbus would be the one making this offer.)


Maybe Schneider + Raymond + Some pick for Johnson + Boll + Some pick

Schneider + is not worth to get Johansen....IMO
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Posted 14 June 2012 - 06:55 PM

Would Columbus do:

Nash
for
Schneider, Burrows, Tanev, Jensen & 2nd Pick 2014

Would Canucks do that?
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Posted 14 June 2012 - 06:56 PM

Could you imagine if CBJ made a offer the Canucks could not refuse for Schneider. Something like...

Van: Schneider, Raymond, 1st Round Pick (2012)

CBJ: J. Johnson, Boll, Johansen, 3rd Round Pick (2012)

As a Canucks fan would you accept that or want more? (Remember Columbus would be the one making this offer.)


I hate Jack Johnson, but I would take this deal and run. This is a massive steal.
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Posted 14 June 2012 - 07:03 PM

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How about Columbus can keep being a crappy team and we keep Schneider
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