Kack Zassian Posted June 15, 2012 Author Share Posted June 15, 2012 Hansen Lapierre Tangradi <--- Physical checking 3rd line You could also possibly use Tangradi as a net presence on the top PP unit, and move Kesler to the 2nd unit as a center. Sedin Sedin Tangradi Edler Salo/Gragnani/Schultz/Whoever Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allkill326 Posted June 15, 2012 Share Posted June 15, 2012 Basically a player coming off of an off-year, for a 23 year old power forward project Pittsburgh Mason Raymond Vancouver Eric Tangradi 4th Round Pick Eric Tangradi - hasn't exactly panned out like Pittsburgh hoped and is essentially a project player at this point. Waiver eligible this season, so he would be brought in as an upgrade to Dale Weise. A big build at 6'3, 220 and is fairly physical/will drop the gloves when needed. At age 23 has only played 40 NHL games, and only put up 5 points in that time. He's been near a PPG in the AHL, but has yet to stick or establish himself in the NHL. A little blurb from hockeysfuture Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smashian Kassian Posted June 15, 2012 Share Posted June 15, 2012 Like I said at 23 hes a bit of a project player. Has all the tools to be a succesful top-6 powerforwar but hasn't made the transition to NHL'er yet. I figure bring him in as a 4th liner and maybe give him some PP time and spot duty in the top 6 if he earns it. If all else fails he stillhas the tools of a physical bottom6'er. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shawn antoski Posted June 15, 2012 Share Posted June 15, 2012 good trade +1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dogbyte Posted June 15, 2012 Share Posted June 15, 2012 Kesler awful coming off of injury year = 49 points Staal career year = 50 points Yeah, Staal is way better than Kesler Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pears Posted June 15, 2012 Share Posted June 15, 2012 One's a second line center who gets juicy PP minutes and one is a third line checker who doens't play on the first PP. Stall is the better player IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil_314 Posted June 15, 2012 Share Posted June 15, 2012 With Geno and Sid as their top 2 centers, Raymond will really benefit. The other wingers, e.g. Kunitz, Neal, Cooke, Dupuis, Kennedy, etc. provide size and energy and Raymond's skill and upside could really be shown with the other guys opening space up for him. Kunitz - Malkin - Neal Raymond - Crosby - Dupuis (defenders pick up Sid, Sid passes to Mason-- I could see him easily reach 45-55 points again) Cooke - B. Sutter/ Bolland - Kennedy (tough as nails, skilled 3rd line ) If this trade happened, good news for them but bad for the rest of the league Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canuck Surfer Posted June 15, 2012 Share Posted June 15, 2012 Cudo's to the OP for actually researching and putting an interesting proposal on the table! Also, for stating facts and being realistic; ie he is "a project," He's been near a PPG in the AHL, but has yet to stick or establish himself in the NHL." I do not know much about Tangradi, but I agree that Raymond could certainly be a viable player with Malkin or Crosby. He can possibly score, but also his defensive skill could allow them to be more aggressive. And they don't need Tangradi's size. Now back to Tangradi, and an honest question; How is his speed? This would separate him from the Mancari type players and offer true NHL upside. If good, based on your analysis he sounds very much like a target. He also could have slipped below the radar, as they have Neal and have had other PF's before him. So maybe Raymond might be an overpayment, but not so much as in acquiring Kassian. I think the chance of Pittsburgh winning this trade is significantly higher than Vancouver. However i think there is more risk and more rewar for Vancouver. Aka Raymond will likely be a 40+ point 2nd/3rd liner for Pitts. Tangradi might become a 40+ point 2nd/3rd liner for Van. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaku Posted June 16, 2012 Share Posted June 16, 2012 Not a bad idea.. He is bigger, and stronger. I think I'd highly consider the deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mpt Posted June 16, 2012 Share Posted June 16, 2012 I think you should drop the draft pick. I proposed this at the trade deadline. Tangradi for Raymond straight up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordan Subban Posted June 16, 2012 Share Posted June 16, 2012 Kesler awful coming off of injury year = 49 points Staal career year = 50 points Yeah, Staal is way better than Kesler Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
komodo1970 Posted June 16, 2012 Share Posted June 16, 2012 He looks like he has the skill set to become a star forward. Might be worth the chance. In, my opinion, it doesn't matter what Raymond doe else where, we know he's not doing it here. Teams won't be lining up to trade for him, so get what we can and accept it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
komodo1970 Posted June 16, 2012 Share Posted June 16, 2012 He looks like he has the skill set to become a star forward. Might be worth the chance. In, my opinion, it doesn't matter what Raymond doe else where, we know he's not doing it here. Teams won't be lining up to trade for him, so get what we can and accept it. Higgins - LaPierre - Hansen Tangradi - Gaustad - Kassian That could turn into a pretty good bottom 6. Oh yeah, I am hoping Vancouver makes a play for Gaustad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mpt Posted June 17, 2012 Share Posted June 17, 2012 Kesler>>>>>>>> Staal. the only reason Kes had low points this year is A ) came off injury to early so strggled to get back into his old self B ) he had a new line mate that is a good puck hog like Kesler so he got the Puck less and C ) we all sucked early in the season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Sedin Posted June 17, 2012 Share Posted June 17, 2012 Seriously? No. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hockeyfan90 Posted June 17, 2012 Share Posted June 17, 2012 Kesler>>>>>>>> Staal. the only reason Kes had low points this year is A ) came off injury to early so strggled to get back into his old self B ) he had a new line mate that is a good puck hog like Kesler so he got the Puck less and C ) we all sucked early in the season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kack Zassian Posted June 17, 2012 Author Share Posted June 17, 2012 Now back to Tangradi, and an honest question; How is his speed? This would separate him from the Mancari type players and offer true NHL upside. If good, based on your analysis he sounds very much like a target. He also could have slipped below the radar, as they have Neal and have had other PF's before him. So maybe Raymond might be an overpayment, but not so much as in acquiring Kassian. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fagin Posted June 18, 2012 Share Posted June 18, 2012 Are you joking? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DownUndaCanuck Posted June 18, 2012 Share Posted June 18, 2012 Ballard and our 1st for Martin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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