Provost Posted June 16, 2012 Share Posted June 16, 2012 If anything that would mean we would keep Ballard cause we'd have a cheaper option for the top 4. Hamhuis Bieksa Edler Schultz Ballard Tanev Alberts That's not that crowded, and we could still sign Salo to play in a limitted capacity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Provost Posted June 16, 2012 Share Posted June 16, 2012 To you and whoever else mentioned it: WE AREN'T TRADING EDLER, thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canucksbiggestfan Posted June 16, 2012 Share Posted June 16, 2012 70 mil cap says hi ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ConnorFutureGM Posted June 16, 2012 Share Posted June 16, 2012 Each of these teams has a good reason for him to sign with. Toronto has his buddy Gardiner and a chance at big ice time. Edmonton has the young core, opportunity for ice time, and close proximity to home. Vancouver has the home team factor, the chance to win now, and the elite powerplay that gives him a good opportunity to inflate his numbers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RunningWild Posted June 16, 2012 Share Posted June 16, 2012 Edmonton's powerplay was better than Vancouver's last season and that was without a good defenceman on the point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edler's Mind Tricks Posted June 16, 2012 Share Posted June 16, 2012 And you think that Edmontons PP will go down? I think you all have your glasses tinted a bit too blue and green... It is at least a three way tie and I don't see why he would choose us decisively over the other teams. Burke will definitely guarantee him a top 6 spot, regardless of his logjam on defense and he would be silly not to. He also has the Gardner connection in Tor. I doubt Gillis will promise him as much in terms of playing time as Burke will. Yes, there is one good spot for him here, alongside Edler. But what happens if they don't develop chemistry? Are you suggesting that AV will suddenly play nice with the rookie and give him a long leash when he goes through a 7 game pointless streak where he gives the puck away more then he takes it away? No, he will be benched during his first or second run like that, the same droughts that are expected from any rookie, whatever the age. And at the time, many of us will agree with AV, it will make more sense for us to bench him then play him if we want to win that night. Edmonton will play him basically every single game that he is healthy. I can almost guarantee that and Edmonton's GM WILL guarantee that. Gillis won't do that because it could disrupt the locker room and would be bad for the team in general. Schultz also knows about the immense media scrutiney and how fickle us fans always are. The collective opinion can change irrationally and quickly, even for a beloved fan favorite (Kesler is going to experience this). And who said 7-8 years for Edmonton? Are you kidding? Think 8-11th this year (depending on if Hall follows the recent trends of 1st overall picks and they can bolster their defence a bit). Next year, playoffs for sure and sleeper cup pick. Next Looonnggg time (barring horrid management) playoffs and at least one cup. Come on, take off those glasses CDC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allkill326 Posted June 16, 2012 Share Posted June 16, 2012 Only if we are getting Weber in return Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BoKnows53 Posted June 16, 2012 Share Posted June 16, 2012 If our management want this guy, they can win him over just like Hamhuis/Sundin. We have more to sell than Edmonton and Toronto. - Far better team - Need a power play Dman - Beautiful province - Close to home - Playoff bonuses Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonimator#19 Posted June 16, 2012 Share Posted June 16, 2012 Luongo for Schenn & Colborne Colborne is that young and big center we need on the 3rd line. hamhuis bieksa edler schultz (edler misses erhoff and needs that puckmover to play with) gragnani Schenn (pucking moving dman with a 'human eraser' big dman in schenn) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greene02 Posted June 16, 2012 Share Posted June 16, 2012 Technically, Nucks scored more PP goals than EDM last year. Nucks PP was better than EDMs for 90% of the season. It was only in the last month that EDM pulled >1% ahead of Van. It's semantics. Nucks consistently have a top 10 PP ranking for last few seasons - EDM's only been close to that once (this yr). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flapjacks Posted June 16, 2012 Share Posted June 16, 2012 Wouldn't be surprised if he went Edmonton. He'll probably get a chance to play along other young talent, and develop along with them. There may be a home factor here, but if he's done his research, he'll probably note that we don't play much of our youth.. As for Toronto, why would he even. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hamhuis2 Posted June 16, 2012 Share Posted June 16, 2012 Just for fun: Sign schultz Trade elder, ballard, 2 first round picks for weber Weber-Schultz/Bieksa Hamhuis-Schultz/Bieksa Salo/Alberts-Tanev Rome,Grags That is crazy good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RunningWild Posted June 16, 2012 Share Posted June 16, 2012 That last part isn't true at all. The Oilers PP went back and forth with Preds for best in the league the entire season. Then Hall got hurt and it dropped off a little. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eberle14 Posted June 16, 2012 Share Posted June 16, 2012 It would be awesome if signs with Edmonton, I think Edmonton is his best fit especially down the road. I just hope he doesn't sign with Toronto. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bleednucksblue Posted June 16, 2012 Share Posted June 16, 2012 Yeah let's trade an all star dman from an already weak d corp. Brutal, just brutal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sampy Posted June 16, 2012 Share Posted June 16, 2012 Edler is so disgustingly overrated on this board that it's not even funny anymore. Brutal, just brutal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Colt 45s Posted June 16, 2012 Share Posted June 16, 2012 Knowing Mike Gillis's style, money will not be the first thing they talk about. Rather, they will discuss the team's vision, where the team is now, and where he wants the team to go. The second issue will be whether Schultz would be a good fit here, and how would he fit in the organization's goal. Finally, the deal would have to make sense. To me it seems like Gillis is triming salaries, and knowing his style, there has to be a reason for it. I think there is something big in the works, and we are going to be surprised, just have to wait until the draft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boudrias Posted June 16, 2012 Share Posted June 16, 2012 I highly doubt that Van signs Schultz and keeps Tanev. If it happened I suspect Tanev moves a deal. Such a signing does not change the reality of needing a bigger dman. I had thoughts of dealing Tanev and resigning Salo but that isn't good enough either. LA clearly showed that Van's down low offensive game can be shutdown. Forcing the play back to the pointmen simply allowed the shots to be blocked. While I agree that the defence is the #1 priority and #2 need is a left winger for Kesler. The 2nd line has to be more of a threat than it was. IMHO that means a bigger winger than a Higgins or Raymond. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tas Posted June 16, 2012 Share Posted June 16, 2012 sign schultz trade kesler and tanev for weber's rights and gaustad's negotiation rights trade edler, raymond and a 3rd for jordan staal(+ ?) trade luongo for jake gardiner and joe colborne sign salo, weber, weise, gragnani, rome, ray whitney, paul gaustad, jarrett stoll, and scott clemmensen trade or waive lapierre sedin-sedin-burrows booth-staal-whitney higgins-stoll-hansen malhotra-gaustad-kassian volpatti-colborne-weise ballard-weber hamhuis-bieksa gardiner-schultz gragnani-salo rome schneider clemmensen lack Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greene02 Posted June 16, 2012 Share Posted June 16, 2012 Have you seen any quote from Schultz saying he is interested or likes Edmonton? Or just speculation. Young rookies like to play behind some vets with experience, who's on Edmonton that's any good? Sutton? Whitney? All cast offs. I used the young guys contract as an example as there is no guarantee that they will all resign or Edm will have the cap room. Can you name one Oiler great that played his whole career in an Oilers jersey, they ALL leave. Who's going to play goal, Khabi? Dubnyk? Gimme a break. If it was about winning for Schultz would you go to the team that just one back to back Presidents or a team that just set a record for winning 3 lotteries and no signs of improving. Oilers fan were singing the playoff tune last year. With Vancouver he could ease into a role with a good club. With Edmonton he is going to have unrealistic expectations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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