hanrahan Posted June 16, 2012 Share Posted June 16, 2012 minors. 4th line in the minors. maybe he can fight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elvis15 Posted June 16, 2012 Share Posted June 16, 2012 His contract cannot go lower than 2.1 Million I believe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kj29 Posted June 16, 2012 Share Posted June 16, 2012 i would like to see him die in a hole. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mpt Posted June 16, 2012 Share Posted June 16, 2012 i would like to see him die in a hole. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DownUndaCanuck Posted June 16, 2012 Share Posted June 16, 2012 2 million for a guy who is very likely to hit 15-20 goals and 40 points is a steal. Malhotra's making more than that and scored 7 goals last season. And don't say Manny brings better defence than Raymond - he was one of our worst minus players all season on a team that dominated the +/- once again. Raymond will fit perfectly on our 3rd line if we can find a big, physical centerman to play there (ala Gaustad/Stoll), heck even Malhotra could fill that roll or Pahlsson if he comes back. Raymond - Gaustad - Hansen (good mix of youth, experience, speed, size, hitting and skill) Or he'll play on our 4th line and give them some speed and skill - Raymond - Lapierre - Volpatti (all fast guys, good forecheckers and Raymond can pounce on the opportunities made by the 2 hitters). Of course this means guys like Bitz and Kassian are going to have a tough time cracking the lineup. Hopefully for the playoffs we see guys like Raymond out and Bitz/Kassian in, but Raymond is perfect for the regular season to get us there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanKeslord17 Posted June 16, 2012 Share Posted June 16, 2012 I would like to see him actually standing on his skates and not tripping over the blue line after arbitrarion. I am very hopeful that Raymond can return to his 25-30 goal performance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the chief him self Posted June 16, 2012 Share Posted June 16, 2012 he will get bounced around on all lines and wiil have a great year! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Vintage Canuck- Posted June 16, 2012 Share Posted June 16, 2012 The 3rd option. I'm sorry, but he does not fit on this team. He was supposed to be a 2nd line player but after acquiring Booth it was over for him in Vancouver. He needs a fresh start somewhere else. I'm sure at least one team can use him right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RBCanucks Posted June 16, 2012 Share Posted June 16, 2012 My theory (or maybe my hope) is that MG knows (and has stated) his belief that the pre-draft/pre-July 1st trade market is incredibly weak. If Raymond walks we get nothing in return for him, if MG re-signs him now he can trade him later after free agency kicks in and teams can better evaluate their needs. The problem with the current cap system is that because top players are being signed to long-term deals, the free-agency market is quickly disappearing and often a sourse of over-paying for what few impact free agents that are available (i.e.: Rangers with Brad Richards, Flyers with Bryzgalov, ect). For teams close to the cap this often has a crippling effect. To sign Bryzgalov, the Flyers had to trade Mike Richards and Jeff Carter, two of their leading point producers and two of the key players that got them to the Cup finals in 2010. The result was that the Flyers drastically over-payed for Bryzgolov and have him signed to yet another long-term deal after a season of huge disappointment and a borderline awful post-season performance, while Richards and Carter won the cup with LA. I'm really hoping the new CBA moves UFA eligibility back up to the 30+ age range. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
etsen3 Posted June 16, 2012 Share Posted June 16, 2012 Problem with Raymond is he's a grinder trapped in a scorer's body. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoaltenderInterference Posted June 16, 2012 Share Posted June 16, 2012 What i understand is that if Raymond does resign it can't be lower than 2.1 million. Also if the Canucks resign him as a RFA, they cannot trade him for the next year. Looks like if the canucks resign him, he will be playing somewhere on the Canucks team. He is another one of those players that are too small to play on the bottom six and is there room for him to play of the top six? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cup2013? Posted June 16, 2012 Share Posted June 16, 2012 How many times do we have to say that Raymond's injury is not an excuse. His production dipped before coming off an injury. Let's look at Max Pacioretty. He came off of a similar injury. Comes in plays 79 games. Gets 33 goals and 32 assist. Raymond? Comes back plays 55 games 10 goals 10 assists. On pace for 15 and 15 over 82 games. Is injury cannot be an excuse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mpt Posted June 16, 2012 Share Posted June 16, 2012 How many times do we have to say that Raymond's injury is not an excuse. His production dipped before coming off an injury. Let's look at Max Pacioretty. He came off of a similar injury. Comes in plays 79 games. Gets 33 goals and 32 assist. Raymond? Comes back plays 55 games 10 goals 10 assists. On pace for 15 and 15 over 82 games. Is injury cannot be an excuse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
erkayloomeh Posted June 16, 2012 Share Posted June 16, 2012 I dont see why people have to trash MR. He is a good guy/teamate and has talent. However I dont like what he bring in light of the fact that i want to see us have more size/toughness up front. Even if he is going to return to the 25 goal scorer i still would like to see him traded for an asset even if it is a small one. He has no chemistry on the second line and hes not a third or fourth line player. I will be pretty dissapointed if hes back. If he goes i wish him well. I still think the best place for him is in Calgary. Ever noticed how much better he plays against them (his home town) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trebreh Posted June 16, 2012 Share Posted June 16, 2012 Raymond, Malhotra and Ballard 9m dollars of useless capspace. I dont want to see any of them back. In a perfect scnerio, all 3 of them are packaged with Luongo on draft day. lol Then let Pahlsson walk, Salo might retire and we open up almost 14m of cap space to go hard after Suter,Schultz or Parise :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rawkdrummer Posted June 16, 2012 Share Posted June 16, 2012 I hope the Canuck's lose at arbitration and then walk away from his contract thus leaving Raymond an UFA. UFA for MayRay... hooray! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaMacNamedDre Posted June 16, 2012 Share Posted June 16, 2012 i'd rather see Volpatti-Bitz -Kassian. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wrath_jason Posted June 16, 2012 Share Posted June 16, 2012 He'll sign. Then Gillis will trade him. At least, this is my hope. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5minutesinthebox Posted June 16, 2012 Share Posted June 16, 2012 What evs he is not worth a dollar to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5minutesinthebox Posted June 16, 2012 Share Posted June 16, 2012 I hope the Canuck's lose at arbitration and then walk away from his contract thus leaving Raymond an UFA. UFA for MayRay... hooray! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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