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#271 Capt.Awesome

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Posted 26 August 2012 - 09:37 PM

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Posted 26 August 2012 - 11:33 PM

Kesler for Kane,
Luongo + 1st for Huberdeau

Problem solved.

D. SEDIN - H. SEDIN - KANE
BOOTH - HUBERDEAU - KASSIAN
BURROWS - LAPIERRE - HANSEN
HIGGINS - MALHOLTRA - ________

HAMHUIS - BIEKSA
EDLER - GARRISON
ALBERTS - TANEV

SCHNEIDER
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#273 djsandwiches

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Posted 26 August 2012 - 11:34 PM

So is this going to be the new Doan 50+ page thread?


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Posted 26 August 2012 - 11:47 PM

Canucks dont have the pieces to acquire Kane. Hes not going anywhere unless its a future superstar they get in return a la PK Subban or a team overpays.
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Posted 27 August 2012 - 12:34 AM

Just realized the Jets didn't have any representation in the all star game. Makes losing Kane that much harder to bear.
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Posted 27 August 2012 - 03:03 AM

the Jets trading Kane only gives Schiefele a chance to be the face of the franchise after Ladd. And the Jets could get a lot back including something similar to what Rick nash fetched. 2 roster players and a prospect (no pick though)
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Posted 27 August 2012 - 04:14 AM

Would i love to see kane in vancouver?.....hell yes, no doubt he fits everything gillis is looking for younger, bigger, stronger, and bc born

Do i think Kane is available?.....yes but only to an extent. however the jets DO NOT want to trade him at all, and although he may not be flat out demanding a trade he might still be forcing the teams hand kinda like how jordan stall did. So ill say the only way he gets traded is if it is an offer the jets simply cannot refuse. in other words an overpayment in which they are the clear cut winner of the trade

What would it take to get kane?....i can tell you right now the first name the jets will say is kesler and if that happens then the answer is flat out no. kesler is way to important to this team to justify trading for anyone( other than crosby,malkin,ect. ). honestly the best offer the canucks can throw at winnipeg is booth, 2013 first, kassian/jensen, and tanev/schroeder. im not sure even that gets it done, because just about 29 other teams will at least inquire about kane. i think if any deal is done regarding kane a center will be going to the jets as they are desperate for centers
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Posted 27 August 2012 - 07:34 AM

I have come to the realization that Jet fans believe Kane is worth Sidney Crosby. I witnessed this when I want on HF Boards. I can't believe how Homer some people can be. Maybe I'm that big of a homer, I don't know. But when Jet fans say they'll only trade Kane for Ryan and Smith-Pelly or Kesler AND Kassian AND a 1st, It's just ridiculous. Kane is untouchable, so let's not get our hopes up Canuck fans.


Its no different than Canucks fans offering Luongo for Kane, or Ballard and Raymond.

Every fan base overvalues their players unless they are downright awful.
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Posted 27 August 2012 - 08:11 AM

Would i love to see kane in vancouver?.....hell yes, no doubt he fits everything gillis is looking for younger, bigger, stronger, and bc born

Do i think Kane is available?.....yes but only to an extent. however the jets DO NOT want to trade him at all, and although he may not be flat out demanding a trade he might still be forcing the teams hand kinda like how jordan stall did. So ill say the only way he gets traded is if it is an offer the jets simply cannot refuse. in other words an overpayment in which they are the clear cut winner of the trade

What would it take to get kane?....i can tell you right now the first name the jets will say is kesler and if that happens then the answer is flat out no. kesler is way to important to this team to justify trading for anyone( other than crosby,malkin,ect. ). honestly the best offer the canucks can throw at winnipeg is booth, 2013 first, kassian/jensen, and tanev/schroeder. im not sure even that gets it done, because just about 29 other teams will at least inquire about kane. i think if any deal is done regarding kane a center will be going to the jets as they are desperate for centers

Kane is going to be a better player than Kesler unless you talking about diving comps or drama.
At 20 years old Kane netted 30 in the NHL, Kesler at the same age was playin in the AHL and did not make an impact with the Canucks until his mid 20's. Kesler is a good player but Kane will be much better.
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Posted 27 August 2012 - 09:20 AM

Kane is going to be a better player than Kesler unless you talking about diving comps or drama.
At 20 years old Kane netted 30 in the NHL, Kesler at the same age was playin in the AHL and did not make an impact with the Canucks until his mid 20's. Kesler is a good player but Kane will be much better.


Kesler's injuries & age likely mean we've seen the best he will ever be (which was outstanding), and he may never be that again. Although Kane may never quite reach that level, I'd estimate that he'll be a better player than Kesler over the course of the next 5 years or so.

That said, Kesler has a NTC, and will not be waiving it for Winnipeg. The only D we have with any value without a NTC is Edler, and as an impending UFA I don't see the Jets too interested. Same deal with Burrows. So the only deal I could see possibly working is a package 3 solid young pieces going the other way.

Hansen or Booth
Jensen or Kassian
1st round pick

Even then, I think Winnipeg would prefer a deal with more NHL-ready talent coming the other way.
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Posted 27 August 2012 - 08:18 PM

HI claims Ballard, Raymond, and picks would be involved in an offer for Kane. He also said MG was thinking of throwing a 1 year, $9.5 million offer sheet :lol: I'm pretty sure he reads CDC.
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In my eyes drouin is overrated he can score in the qmjhl but did nothing in last two gold medal games that canada lost. Fox will be better pro than him talk to me in five yrs

Gaudreau has one NHL goal whereas all your "prized" prospects have none.

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Posted 27 August 2012 - 08:23 PM

HI is soo legit. Can't wait to get Kane for Ballard, Raymond + 10 1st Round picks.

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Posted 27 August 2012 - 08:39 PM

HI claims Ballard, Raymond, and picks would be involved in an offer for Kane. He also said MG was thinking of throwing a 1 year, $9.5 million offer sheet :lol: I'm pretty sure he reads CDC.


Hahaha HI is hilarious, man some of his tweets.... :lol:
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Posted 27 August 2012 - 08:51 PM

Yeah, that's as ridiculous as some of the stuff Eklund comes up with. HI is slipping.
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Posted 27 August 2012 - 10:05 PM

Kesler's injuries & age likely mean we've seen the best he will ever be (which was outstanding), and he may never be that again. Although Kane may never quite reach that level, I'd estimate that he'll be a better player than Kesler over the course of the next 5 years or so.

That said, Kesler has a NTC, and will not be waiving it for Winnipeg. The only D we have with any value without a NTC is Edler, and as an impending UFA I don't see the Jets too interested. Same deal with Burrows. So the only deal I could see possibly working is a package 3 solid young pieces going the other way.

Hansen or Booth
Jensen or Kassian
1st round pick

Even then, I think Winnipeg would prefer a deal with more NHL-ready talent coming the other way.


Kesler's NTC kicks in 2012/13. I think he is still trade able. Having said that Canucks will not trade Ryan Kesler. He's signed to an excellent contract on top of being one of the best 2nd line C's in the NHL. (Selke Trophy winner)

I think a reasonable offer would be

Booth, Jensen and Tanev.
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Posted 27 August 2012 - 10:07 PM

Kesler's NTC kicks in 2012/13. I think he is still trade able. Having said that Canucks will not trade Ryan Kesler. He's signed to an excellent contract on top of being one of the best 2nd line C's in the NHL. (Selke Trophy winner)

I think a reasonable offer would be

Booth, Jensen and Tanev.

His NTC kicked in on July 1st.
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In my eyes drouin is overrated he can score in the qmjhl but did nothing in last two gold medal games that canada lost. Fox will be better pro than him talk to me in five yrs

Gaudreau has one NHL goal whereas all your "prized" prospects have none.

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Posted 27 August 2012 - 10:13 PM

His NTC kicked in on July 1st.


Ohh I see, Thanks for clarifying. In any event like I said, Kesler ain't going anywhere.
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Posted 27 August 2012 - 10:25 PM

Maybe, Lack, Tanev and Hansen.
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Posted 27 August 2012 - 10:27 PM

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Posted 28 August 2012 - 07:53 AM

Kesler's NTC kicks in 2012/13. I think he is still trade able. Having said that Canucks will not trade Ryan Kesler. He's signed to an excellent contract on top of being one of the best 2nd line C's in the NHL. (Selke Trophy winner)

I think a reasonable offer would be

Booth, Jensen and  Tanev.


If his NTC kicks in 2012/13, that means it began on July 1, 2012.

But yeah, kind of a moot point now, because Canucks wouldn't trade him anyway.

Booth, Jensen, and Tanev is losing a lot of depth...and I'm not sure it would be enough.
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Posted 28 August 2012 - 07:58 AM

I would love it if Gillis can some how pry Kane out of Winnipeg.
He would look good along side the Sedins...

Schneider + Ballard for Kane?


WOW overpayment by far!!!!Ballard and a third + Schroeder for Kane would be enough.
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Posted 28 August 2012 - 08:07 AM

^ Kane is Winnipeg's franchise player... no way they'll accept spare, throw-away parts for him.

And as for Schneider... they just signed Pavlec to four years.
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Posted 28 August 2012 - 08:30 AM

WOW overpayment by far!!!!Ballard and a third + Schroeder for Kane would be enough.



The Kane for garbage in return never gets old here.

Let's just say it were the reverse, and the Canucks had Kane. Would you be willing to part with him for Ballard, a third round pick, and Jordan Schroeder? Didn't think so.

Any trade the Canucks would do to land Kane would be a massive overpayment. Edler and Burrows (assuming they would sign extensions with Winnipeg) would be more like it.I've said this before, the Jets hold all the cards. Kane is 20, doesn't have a NTC, and is an RFA. He's as good as stuck in Winnipeg. He'll just have to grow up and play it out.

Perhaps Burke will throw 3 first rounders at the Jets though. In which case, done.

Edited by Monty, 28 August 2012 - 08:31 AM.

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Posted 28 August 2012 - 08:30 AM

The amount of horrendous proposals in this thread is too damn high.
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Posted 28 August 2012 - 03:05 PM

WOW overpayment by far!!!!Ballard and a third + Schroeder for Kane would be enough.


What?
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Posted 28 August 2012 - 05:48 PM

WOW overpayment by far!!!!Ballard and a third + Schroeder for Kane would be enough.


LOL im sorry but that is just stupid
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Posted 28 August 2012 - 05:49 PM

Cdc needs to realize if you want Quality you have to give up quality not quantity ..no one wants ballard and raymond.. at least not for a star player
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Posted 28 August 2012 - 06:15 PM

Cdc needs to realize if you want Quality you have to give up quality not quantity ..no one wants ballard and raymond.. at least not for a star player


I'm sure Howson would be dumb enough, but oh wait, he has nothing worthy to trade.
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Posted 28 August 2012 - 07:42 PM

I'm sure Howson would be dumb enough, but oh wait, he has nothing worthy to trade.

Dubinsky?
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Posted 30 August 2012 - 05:25 PM

Cdc needs to realize if you want Quality you have to give up quality not quantity ..no one wants ballard and raymond.. at least not for a star player


Kane isn't willing to sign an extension, supposedly. It would be different than a regular trade.

Stall for Sutter isn't even close to being a fair trade, but that's what happens.
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Are you CRAZY??? Trade Green for ONE first round pick?? He's restricted after this season.... He WILL get an offer sheet for 7-8 million from a number of teams regardless if he plays another minute for us or not. That offer sheet would be worth 4 first round draft choices.


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