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#361 D-Money

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Posted 04 September 2012 - 08:19 AM

Speaking of Cooke, he was a Selke nominee one year. Had great chemistry with Chubarov. Too bad Artem didn't stick around.
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Posted 04 September 2012 - 09:35 AM

Speaking of Cooke, he was a Selke nominee one year. Had great chemistry with Chubarov. Too bad Artem didn't stick around.


He was good with Morrison too. He was like Higgins, you could plug him anywhere.

frack what the rest of the league thinks. Cooke was the best, a fan favourite when he was here.
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Posted 04 September 2012 - 03:22 PM

What you say is the popular belief. I would however point a few things out:

He was never suspended as a Canuck.

He was embraced by Crawford, who believes in physical hockey.

Mario keeps him around for a reason.

He lands over 200 hits a year. 95% of them are clean. So some of them misses the mark and hit the guy in the wrong spot, so what?

The Savard hit was legal at the time. Mike Richards did the same thing to Booth. Years ago Stevens did the same to Lindros and many others. When Richards and Stevens do it it's ok, when Cooke does it its dirty. I don't remember Richard fighting his own fights either.

He lives by the sword and dies by the sword. He has taken some huge hits in the past.

We loved him when he was here guys. He always stood up for his teammates, not with fighting but with hitting. We are getting out-hit? Send in the Cooker. We need more energy? Send in Cooke. Don't you guys remember the play by play guy for Team 1040: "Everybody loves the Cooker!!"

When Bert was suspended in 2004, he stepped up to the top line. You don't remember the Game 7 tying goal against Calgary with 5 seconds left that sent the game to OT? That should count as one of the bigger goals in recent franchise history. Too bad Malik messed up 1st minute of OT.

If you haven't noticed, beating down the other team's defense is a key component of winning a playoff series. Last year, not one forward on our team poses as a serious threat to the health of other teams' defense. Most teams have several.

Cooke was our unsung hero award winner in our annual awards in 2003.

He was also heavily involved in the Vancouver community, with some child or adult literacy stuff I can't remember.

The guys in the locker room now who were here back then still defends him. I can't believe you fans have forgotten how much he did for us when he was here.


200 hits a year 95% of which are clean. According to your figures which I have not confirmed Cooke delivers 10 dirty hits a year. That's all you need to know about what type of player he is.

Richards laid the hit on Booth but Richards didn't deliver cheap hits to several players. Sure anyone can make a mistake once or twice, its a fast game. But Cooke has a history and he did this stuff repeatedly. Look what he did to Macdounagh for which he got a lengthy suspension including a round of play offs.

Mario doesn't keep him around for a reason, Mario laid it on the line and told Cooke if he wants to stay with the Pens he would have to drastically change his game, which to Cooke's credit he did last year.

Mario Lemieux took a huge amount of heat and was called a hypocrite by the whole hockey community because he employed Cooke at the same time speaking out against dirty play.

http://www.google.ca...iw=1092&bih=514

Anyone who watches enough hockey knows Cooke has been the dirtiest player in the league for far too long. Cooke him self admitted he had to change his game and "retrain his brain" as he put it.

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Posted 04 September 2012 - 08:18 PM

200 hits a year 95% of which are clean. According to your figures which I have not confirmed Cooke delivers 10 dirty hits a year. That's all you need to know about what type of player he is.

Richards laid the hit on Booth but Richards didn't deliver cheap hits to several players. Sure anyone can make a mistake once or twice, its a fast game. But Cooke has a history and he did this stuff repeatedly. Look what he did to Macdounagh for which he got a lengthy suspension including a round of play offs.

Mario doesn't keep him around for a reason, Mario laid it on the line and told Cooke if he wants to stay with the Pens he would have to drastically change his game, which to Cooke's credit he did last year.

Mario Lemieux took a huge amount of heat and was called a hypocrite by the whole hockey community because he employed Cooke at the same time speaking out against dirty play.

http://www.google.ca...iw=1092&bih=514

Anyone who watches enough hockey knows Cooke has been the dirtiest player in the league for far too long. Cooke him self admitted he had to change his game and "retrain his brain" as he put it.


Most guys who land 200 hits a year do usually end up throwing a few dirties here and there. Doan, Brown, Lucic, Eager, Downie, McGinn, etc etc. Most of these guys would not be labelled as 'dirty'. It's easy to count 10 dirty hits from Lucic per year. Not everyone of them would end up sending someone out on a stretcher, but you know as well as I do that hard hitting guys throw questionable hits every 2 weeks.

Cooke has thrown a few undefendable hits from time to time and was suspended deservingly. Mario didn't waive him like the Rangers waived Avery, did he? Waive Cooke now and I bet at least 10 teams in the league would want to claim him.

Anyone who has been watching hockey for more than 4 years would know that he was a good player for us, a heart and soul guy who always stood up for his teammates and he should at least be partially remembered as such. I wouldn't go this far defending Torres.

Sorry I get irritated when Canucks fans throw him under the bus for a few highly publicized hits and suspensions and forgets all how popular he was in Canucks uniform when there are far worse culprits out there.
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Posted 04 September 2012 - 08:32 PM

Most guys who land 200 hits a year do usually end up throwing a few dirties here and there. Doan, Brown, Lucic, Eager, Downie, McGinn, etc etc. Most of these guys would not be labelled as 'dirty'. It's easy to count 10 dirty hits from Lucic per year. Not everyone of them would end up sending someone out on a stretcher, but you know as well as I do that hard hitting guys throw questionable hits every 2 weeks.

Cooke has thrown a few undefendable hits from time to time and was suspended deservingly. Mario didn't waive him like the Rangers waived Avery, did he? Waive Cooke now and I bet at least 10 teams in the league would want to claim him.

Anyone who has been watching hockey for more than 4 years would know that he was a good player for us, a heart and soul guy who always stood up for his teammates and he should at least be partially remembered as such. I wouldn't go this far defending Torres.

Sorry I get irritated when Canucks fans throw him under the bus for a few highly publicized hits and suspensions and forgets all how popular he was in Canucks uniform when there are far worse culprits out there.

The problem with Cooke when he played for Vancouver wasn't his questionable hits, it was that he wouldnt answer the bell after a cheap hit and the Canucks star players were getting run at and having to fight. Lucic, Eager, Downie, Mginn and Torres all deal with the repercussions. Watch the Cooke Kane fight, only a weasel like Cooke would go after and try and fight an 18 year old. The entire hockey world cheered when Kane one punched Cooke. Add his dirtiness to the fact he has very little offensive skills, I'd rather have Matt Pettinger.

Edited by sampy, 04 September 2012 - 08:39 PM.


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Posted 04 September 2012 - 09:04 PM

I'd rather have Matt Pettinger.


Unreal... without looking up their stats I can guarantee you that Cooke has scored more goals than Pettinger in the NHL.

The problem with Cooke when he played for Vancouver wasn't his questionable hits, it was that he wouldnt answer the bell after a cheap hit and the Canucks star players were getting run at and having to fight


I personally do not remember examples of him landing a dirty hit, opposition goes after him or Naslund/Morrison, he ducks behind Bertuzzi, Jovo or Brookbank. I honestly don't remember. Perhaps you can give me an example. He was never suspended as a Canuck. What I remember is him hitting guys after our star players get run over. He was like a mini-Bertuzzi. Unfortunately, like Bert, Cooke will forever be remembered by one incident.

I remember him messing with Iginla a lot, but not dirty hits. Since when are you obligated to fight after a clean hit?

If he was an UFA, I would sign him any day of the week.

Everybody Loves The Cooker!

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Posted 04 September 2012 - 09:35 PM

Unreal... without looking up their stats I can guarantee you that Cooke has scored more goals than Pettinger in the NHL.



I personally do not remember examples of him landing a dirty hit, opposition goes after him or Naslund/Morrison, he ducks behind Bertuzzi, Jovo or Brookbank. I honestly don't remember. Perhaps you can give me an example. He was never suspended as a Canuck. What I remember is him hitting guys after our star players get run over. He was like a mini-Bertuzzi. Unfortunately, like Bert, Cooke will forever be remembered by one incident.

I remember him messing with Iginla a lot, but not dirty hits. Since when are you obligated to fight after a clean hit?

If he was an UFA, I would sign him any day of the week.

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Here's one example of teammates doing Cooke's dirty work:
http://www.hockeyfig...om/fights/37781

He constantly did things like this. The organization and fan base was tired of his antics. Anything was better than Cooke, even the guy they got, Pettinger. Why would a veteran player go after an 18 year old rookie, because he's Matt Cooke, the dirtiest player in the NHL. IMO Cooke isn't worth the league minimum.

Here's what Cherry thinks about Cooke. Fast forward to 1:10 if you're impatient and at 2:28 he calls him exactly what everyone thinks.

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Posted 04 September 2012 - 09:42 PM

You can all have fun thinking that Kane will be a Canuck.

Edited by Morris Berger-Poll, 04 September 2012 - 09:42 PM.

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Posted 05 September 2012 - 01:18 AM

Most guys who land 200 hits a year do usually end up throwing a few dirties here and there. Doan, Brown, Lucic, Eager, Downie, McGinn, etc etc. Most of these guys would not be labelled as 'dirty'. It's easy to count 10 dirty hits from Lucic per year. Not everyone of them would end up sending someone out on a stretcher, but you know as well as I do that hard hitting guys throw questionable hits every 2 weeks.

Cooke has thrown a few undefendable hits from time to time and was suspended deservingly. Mario didn't waive him like the Rangers waived Avery, did he? Waive Cooke now and I bet at least 10 teams in the league would want to claim him.

Anyone who has been watching hockey for more than 4 years would know that he was a good player for us, a heart and soul guy who always stood up for his teammates and he should at least be partially remembered as such. I wouldn't go this far defending Torres.

Sorry I get irritated when Canucks fans throw him under the bus for a few highly publicized hits and suspensions and forgets all how popular he was in Canucks uniform when there are far worse culprits out there.


Not going to get into a huge debate over this with you. Obviously you are a Matt Cooke fan, which is fine by me. But I remember Cooke and his antics very well.

I trust the Canucks coaching staff to know what goes on in their dressing room and what happens on the ice. Cooke had a reputation of starting stuff and leaving his team mates to finish it. Coach AV who's nickname was Boom Boom in his day didn't like Cooke for these reasons, hence the trade to WSH.

I love good hard hitting hockey but I don't think there should be room in the game for players like Cooke. Like I said it's good that Cooke cleaned up his game last year and he himself said he needed to do it.

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Posted 08 September 2012 - 09:23 AM

You can all have fun thinking that Kane will be a Canuck.


No one ever said Kane will be a Canuck. We were having fun pointing out how ridiculous your post is.
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Posted 08 September 2012 - 09:31 AM

Here's one example of teammates doing Cooke's dirty work:
http://www.hockeyfig...om/fights/37781

He constantly did things like this. The organization and fan base was tired of his antics. Anything was better than Cooke, even the guy they got, Pettinger. Why would a veteran player go after an 18 year old rookie, because he's Matt Cooke, the dirtiest player in the NHL. IMO Cooke isn't worth the league minimum.

Here's what Cherry thinks about Cooke. Fast forward to 1:10 if you're impatient and at 2:28 he calls him exactly what everyone thinks.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6czr5MvxNJs&feature=youtube_gdata_player


I don't remember any Canucks fan calling out Matt Cooke while he was here. Cooke is supposed to irritate the other team's best players. That's his job.

If Cooke was a Bruin, and if he didn't take out Savard, Don Cherry would not pick on him. Lucic and Marchand have done far worse in far shorter periods of time.

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Posted 08 September 2012 - 06:49 PM

No one ever said Kane will be a Canuck. We were having fun pointing out how ridiculous your post is.

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Posted 08 September 2012 - 10:54 PM

Is there an actual petition to bring back kristen? I cant ???? stand joey.. I wana punch the guy in the teeth every time he speaks.

Especially his sign off. He needs lessons from Ron Burgundy.

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Posted 09 September 2012 - 01:03 PM

i click on a E.Kane thread and all i see is M.Cooke's name on the last page..
oh wait i see two posts with Kane in it... ( i think mine is #3)

So anything new on this rumour?

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Posted 09 September 2012 - 10:35 PM

Get 'err done MG

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Posted 10 September 2012 - 04:34 PM

If the Jets were to trade Kane, I would prefer a trade involving Jordan Staal or Colin Wilson (Winnipegger)

do trades that will never happen turn u on?
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Posted 10 September 2012 - 05:19 PM

Edmonton fans are thought capable?
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Posted 10 September 2012 - 06:06 PM

Would Lu for Kane's rights straight up be realistic?


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Posted 15 September 2012 - 07:51 PM

Russ Hobson@russ_sportsguy

RT "@garylawless: Kane deal imminent - expect it to be finalized shortly #nhljets free press hockey writer tim campbell will have details"

I'm hearing kane deal is for six years - working on money now #nhljets - chevy got what he wanted #bn

Kane deal for six years and just shy of 32 millions #nhljets #bn


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