avelanch Posted June 19, 2012 Share Posted June 19, 2012 It's starts with Schneider because that's an obvious piece that they need. Then you have to offer up a top 6 player to help replace the loss of Nash. The only realistic options for us are Booth or raymond. And obviously Gillis is going to have a tough time selling Raymond as a top 6, so it's Booth. Then they're going to likely want a top 6 defenceman, or high calibre defensive prospect. Ballard is obviously an option because his cap hit helps them get to the cap floor and they need a defenceman that's capable of playing in the top 4. But if they want to go younger, they're going to ask for Tanev or possibly Sauve, depending on how well Gillis negotiates. And finally they're going to want a prospect and a pick, which could be one of many combinations. It could be a mix of Sweatt or Rodin and a 1st, or it could be Jensen or Schroeder and something like a 2nd or a third. Of course this is just what they're asking for. That doesn't mean any team has to pay it. IMO it could be anything from Schneider, Booth, Ballard, Schroeder, and a 3rd, to Schneider, Booth, Tanev, Sweatt, and a 1st. If the pric is that high though, I'd be asking for their 2nd round pick back with Nash to help counter the loss of our first. The way I look at it is, Nash is an immediate upgrade over Booth. This team is still strong with Luongo and Lack. Ballard or Tanev can be replaced in free agency. And Schroeder is likely going to run into the same wall that Hodgson did on this team. So really, IMO this move would make us stronger now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MegaNuck Posted June 19, 2012 Share Posted June 19, 2012 Not sure if serious or just being a homer...? Nash can single-handedly carry a team on his back. Kesler can barely carry his own line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canucksnihilist Posted June 19, 2012 Share Posted June 19, 2012 Lindros was a more dominant force than Forsberg in his prime. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canucksnihilist Posted June 19, 2012 Share Posted June 19, 2012 Forget the comparison ... Could Nash help? Is he a missing piece to go for it while Sedins are in prime? Yes Is he worth taking a risk on? Yes But we can't give up so much that we damage our window. We can damage the beginning of our next window, but not this one. That in mind, only prospects and a goalie an picks... Take it or leave it. Or a player who would get no ice time here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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ButterBean Posted June 19, 2012 Share Posted June 19, 2012 the only piece i would try to work around, if at all possible, is Booth. honesty, I'd rather try to see if they would take Burr instead, as nash would be playing with the twins upon his arrival. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
y2kcanucks Posted June 19, 2012 Share Posted June 19, 2012 It's starts with Schneider because that's an obvious piece that they need. Then you have to offer up a top 6 player to help replace the loss of Nash. The only realistic options for us are Booth or raymond. And obviously Gillis is going to have a tough time selling Raymond as a top 6, so it's Booth. Then they're going to likely want a top 6 defenceman, or high calibre defensive prospect. Ballard is obviously an option because his cap hit helps them get to the cap floor and they need a defenceman that's capable of playing in the top 4. But if they want to go younger, they're going to ask for Tanev or possibly Sauve, depending on how well Gillis negotiates. And finally they're going to want a prospect and a pick, which could be one of many combinations. It could be a mix of Sweatt or Rodin and a 1st, or it could be Jensen or Schroeder and something like a 2nd or a third. Of course this is just what they're asking for. That doesn't mean any team has to pay it. IMO it could be anything from Schneider, Booth, Ballard, Schroeder, and a 3rd, to Schneider, Booth, Tanev, Sweatt, and a 1st. If the pric is that high though, I'd be asking for their 2nd round pick back with Nash to help counter the loss of our first. The way I look at it is, Nash is an immediate upgrade over Booth. This team is still strong with Luongo and Lack. Ballard or Tanev can be replaced in free agency. And Schroeder is likely going to run into the same wall that Hodgson did on this team. So really, IMO this move would make us stronger now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeNiro Posted June 19, 2012 Share Posted June 19, 2012 What makes you think Columbus is a cap floor team? We have the 8th highest payroll, they have the 11th highest. I highly doubt someone like Keith Ballard is all that attractive to them. If we want Rick Nash it would likely cost Schneider, Booth, Tanev, Schroeder and a 1st round pick. I definitely would do this deal, and then look to see what it will take to bring in Brandon Dubinsky to take over for Booth on the second line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul_Kariya28 Posted June 19, 2012 Share Posted June 19, 2012 What makes you think Columbus is a cap floor team? We have the 8th highest payroll, they have the 11th highest. I highly doubt someone like Keith Ballard is all that attractive to them. If we want Rick Nash it would likely cost Schneider, Booth, Tanev, Schroeder and a 1st round pick. I definitely would do this deal, and then look to see what it will take to bring in Brandon Dubinsky to take over for Booth on the second line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ms stanley Posted June 19, 2012 Share Posted June 19, 2012 For Schneider it could. For Schneider+ it could happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldnews Posted June 19, 2012 Share Posted June 19, 2012 Remove Schroeder and the 1st, change it to Kesler, and maybe Howson will consider it. Booth, Tanev and Schroeder don't have much value Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canucksnihilist Posted June 19, 2012 Share Posted June 19, 2012 Hate to break it to u But Nash isn't Mario Lemieux or Gretzky He is glen Anderson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeNiro Posted June 19, 2012 Share Posted June 19, 2012 Hate to break it to u But Nash isn't Mario Lemieux or Gretzky He is glen Anderson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Franz Liszt Posted June 19, 2012 Share Posted June 19, 2012 Glen Anderson was a huge complimentary piece to an already great team, just like Nash would be. He put up 117 points in 99 games, in their 5 cup wins. If Nash could perform anywhere near that in the playoffs, I would give up half the farm for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aladeen Posted June 19, 2012 Share Posted June 19, 2012 Big whoop! He had one great playoff series out of nine he has played in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shiznak Posted June 19, 2012 Share Posted June 19, 2012 Okay, I will. 53 points in 54 games representing Team Canada. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldnews Posted June 19, 2012 Share Posted June 19, 2012 Is anyone else really really tired of the Nash drama? Deadline day, draft day - maybe Columbus has no intention of trading him, but really really needs attention. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canucks_fo_life Posted June 19, 2012 Share Posted June 19, 2012 Kesler has a Selke Trophy, and is big on the penalty kill and the powerplay. Kesler's type is exactly what every team wants Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aladeen Posted June 19, 2012 Share Posted June 19, 2012 Okay, I will. 53 points in 54 games representing Team Canada. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canucklehead420 Posted June 19, 2012 Share Posted June 19, 2012 Heatley played with Thornton and crap the bed. To say Nash with the sedins would dominate is all speculation. And umm no, Parise is worth nowhere near 8 million. That's absolutely ridiculous. He's a 6.5 million dollar guy at best, but of course teams will overpay to get him. That doesn't mean he's worth it though. Yes, scoring was a problem, but we would have had to score 9 goals in the 2 games we lost in order to win those games in Boston. I don't think Rick Nash could get us 9 goals in a game. Wow, if you think he's one of the best talents in the game, then I give up trying to convince you otherwise. Have you not learned from Glen Sather's mistakes? edit: Nash does not want to come here: http://sports.yahoo....39506--nhl.html End thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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