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#61 oldnews

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Posted 19 June 2012 - 11:18 PM

There idiots because your not happy that he said there is no market for him ?
He could be right , There might be some tire kickers and maybe the leafs who are the only ones with some serious interest .
And there really is no chance we are going to get a another teams top prospect for Luongo .


Cox writes for the Toronto Star - he doesn't have a clue what GMs outside Toronto are thinking regarding Luongo. He's not a neutral insider that rival GMs would talk to - he probably thinks he is helping his Leafs' cause by trying to devalue Luongo, but all he is really doing is making it more difficult for Burke to acquire the goalie he needs. Luongo won't be cheap - Cox et al are creating unrealistic expectations in Toronto that they can acquire Luongo for a salary dump. Won't happen. If they do eventually pay, he/they are making Burke look bad, as if he should have been able to land Luongo for Komisarek - if they don't pay, they miss out on the goaltender they need, and it'll be fun to watch them moving forward.

I hope they stick to these stupid guns and burn bridges with Gillis, because I don't want to see Luongo in a Leafs uniform.

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Posted 20 June 2012 - 12:02 AM

I would almost rather trade Luongo to any other team or not trade him at all, than give Burke and the leafs the satisfaction of making the playoffs. You know we'll never hear the end of it from the Toronto media and fans.

IMO, the Leafs really don't have anything that makes us better as a team right now anyways. And no, Luke Schenn does not make us a better team. I would rather just sign Garrison or Allen for a simialr price.

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Posted 20 June 2012 - 12:15 AM

Sometimes it's not about getting a fair return. Trading Luongo allows the Canucks to have the cap space to make another trade to add a top notch player. The hardest thing right now, is to find a trading partner. Lots of teams already have goaltenders. Team cannot afford a 5+ million dollar goalie to be the backup, if they want to try their best at being the cup winners. Doesn't make sense to sit there and do nothing.

If Garrison calls Gillis, and Gillis says we can't make you an offer because we a fair value trade for Luongo, then it becomes a missed opportunity. Automatic worst GM ever. Wouldn't surprise me if Gillis will take the best offer a day before July 1st.

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Posted 20 June 2012 - 08:49 AM

Sometimes it's not about getting a fair return. Trading Luongo allows the Canucks to have the cap space to make another trade to add a top notch player. The hardest thing right now, is to find a trading partner. Lots of teams already have goaltenders. Team cannot afford a 5+ million dollar goalie to be the backup, if they want to try their best at being the cup winners. Doesn't make sense to sit there and do nothing.

If Garrison calls Gillis, and Gillis says we can't make you an offer because we a fair value trade for Luongo, then it becomes a missed opportunity. Automatic worst GM ever. Wouldn't surprise me if Gillis will take the best offer a day before July 1st.


LOL Garrison is nothing to cry over.

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Posted 20 June 2012 - 09:15 AM

I don't know if this article is linked (looked and didn't see it) but it will make you guys even more upset!

http://www.thestar.c...-roberto-luongo


nother day, another goalie locked up.
While Josh Harding may not be a well-known puckstopper, or one of particular note, he’s likely to come close to splitting the workload in Minnesota this season with Nicklas Backstrom, and so the Wild have locked him up with a three-year deal.
Harding, along with Anders Lindback, Cory Schneider and Jonathan Bernier, was viewed as a young backup netminder who might be able to become a starter elsewhere. Now Harding is signed, Lindback has been traded to Tampa, Bernier may stay in L.A. for the time being until Jonathan Quick is locked up long term and Schneider, most believe, will be the unchallenged as the No. 1 goalie of the Vancouver Canucks when the next NHL season begins.
If there were a plethora of teams anxious to upgrade in goal, that would create a nice situation for Canucks GM Mike Gillis in his efforts to move veteran goaler Roberto Luongo and his ridiculous contract, which still has 10 years left to run.
Except there aren’t many teams looking to upgrade. Indeed, unless Ondrej Pavelec flees to the KHL and leaves the Winnipeg Jets in the lurch, only two teams seem to be seriously prowling for a starter in the crease, the Maple Leafs and the Columbus Blue Jackets.
Even then, the money-losing Blue Jackets aren’t likely to be interested in Luongo and his massive contract, while Luongo, with a no-movement clause he can still exercise, isn’t likely to be too excited about Columbus.
Which leaves the Leafs as the only destination. Chicago? Most GMs don’t think the Hawks are looking, and why would the Canucks move Luongo to a conference rival? Florida? They have Jose Theodore and hot prospect Jacob Markstrom, and dicey ownership in south Florida makes it unlikely the Panthers would want to absorb that contract with $46.8 million still to pay, including $40.3 million cash in the next six years.
If Luongo were, say, like Backstrom with only one year left at $6 million on his contract, this would be an entirely different situation.
But that’s not the case. Moreover, the Leafs are interested, that’s clear, but not wildly so. Certainly not wildly enough to give up quality players or prospects to get him and take on that contract, just as they had no interest in shipping Luke Schenn or Jake Gardiner to the Oilers to get the No. 1 pick in Friday’s entry draft.
Now, the Leafs don’t have many options at this point, either, which is about all that gives Gillis any real leverage when talks between the two teams get really serious. That’s probably not going to happen, by the way, until Gillis gets Schneider locked up with a new contract. So for now, the Vancouver GM can try to make it appear he has multiple suitors and significant offers, but nobody is going to believe him. For the most part, however, Gillis is staying quiet and making himself scarce, which is probably smart.
If the Leafs could get a deal they like, they’d do it today. But that doesn’t appear likely.
So what you have is a team with an ultra-expensive goalie for sale and few suitors, and a team intent on improving in net to get out of non-playoff hell with few other substantial options.
Rock, meet hard place.
This is all complicated, to some degree, by the low-level animosity that exists between the two organizations, nothing compared to the high-level animosity that exists between their fan bases, with most of the hate there directed from Vancouver to Toronto.
With regard to the teams themselves, Brian Burke and Dave Nonis have long histories on the Lower Mainland, and the way in which Gillis assumed power with the Canucks while Nonis was ushered out the door has never sat well with many in hockey. The relationship worsened several years ago with Vancouver’s absurd tampering charges aimed at Burke, and very little business has gone on between the Leafs and ’Nucks in recent seasons.
Still, both teams can get around this if they can get a deal they want. Gillis needs to find a way to make it at least appear he’s not giving Luongo away, or more accurately, only receiving relief from his contract in return.
Burke has more flexibility, more wiggle room. To get it done, he can give up more than he strictly has to. It won’t be Schenn or Gardiner, but he could give up a lesser youngster. If the Canucks will take a contract back, say Mike Komisarek’s, the quality of that prospect might get better.
All in all, this is a doable deal as long as Vancouver doesn’t overestimate what it should get and the Leafs don’t squeeze the Canucks overly because there’s no market for Luongo.
They can help each other, in other words. Both might have to grit their teeth while doing so, but that’s business.

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Posted 20 June 2012 - 09:52 AM

Aside from the obviously exaggerated comments, the above article is pretty accurate as to how I fell things are going internally at the moment.


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Posted 20 June 2012 - 09:53 AM

I don't know if this article is linked (looked and didn't see it) but it will make you guys even more upset!

http://www.thestar.c...-roberto-luongo


nother day, another goalie locked up.
While Josh Harding may not be a well-known puckstopper, or one of particular note, he’s likely to come close to splitting the workload in Minnesota this season with Nicklas Backstrom, and so the Wild have locked him up with a three-year deal.
Harding, along with Anders Lindback, Cory Schneider and Jonathan Bernier, was viewed as a young backup netminder who might be able to become a starter elsewhere. Now Harding is signed, Lindback has been traded to Tampa, Bernier may stay in L.A. for the time being until Jonathan Quick is locked up long term and Schneider, most believe, will be the unchallenged as the No. 1 goalie of the Vancouver Canucks when the next NHL season begins.
If there were a plethora of teams anxious to upgrade in goal, that would create a nice situation for Canucks GM Mike Gillis in his efforts to move veteran goaler Roberto Luongo and his ridiculous contract, which still has 10 years left to run.
Except there aren’t many teams looking to upgrade. Indeed, unless Ondrej Pavelec flees to the KHL and leaves the Winnipeg Jets in the lurch, only two teams seem to be seriously prowling for a starter in the crease, the Maple Leafs and the Columbus Blue Jackets.
Even then, the money-losing Blue Jackets aren’t likely to be interested in Luongo and his massive contract, while Luongo, with a no-movement clause he can still exercise, isn’t likely to be too excited about Columbus.
Which leaves the Leafs as the only destination. Chicago? Most GMs don’t think the Hawks are looking, and why would the Canucks move Luongo to a conference rival? Florida? They have Jose Theodore and hot prospect Jacob Markstrom, and dicey ownership in south Florida makes it unlikely the Panthers would want to absorb that contract with $46.8 million still to pay, including $40.3 million cash in the next six years.
If Luongo were, say, like Backstrom with only one year left at $6 million on his contract, this would be an entirely different situation.
But that’s not the case. Moreover, the Leafs are interested, that’s clear, but not wildly so. Certainly not wildly enough to give up quality players or prospects to get him and take on that contract, just as they had no interest in shipping Luke Schenn or Jake Gardiner to the Oilers to get the No. 1 pick in Friday’s entry draft.
Now, the Leafs don’t have many options at this point, either, which is about all that gives Gillis any real leverage when talks between the two teams get really serious. That’s probably not going to happen, by the way, until Gillis gets Schneider locked up with a new contract. So for now, the Vancouver GM can try to make it appear he has multiple suitors and significant offers, but nobody is going to believe him. For the most part, however, Gillis is staying quiet and making himself scarce, which is probably smart.
If the Leafs could get a deal they like, they’d do it today. But that doesn’t appear likely.
So what you have is a team with an ultra-expensive goalie for sale and few suitors, and a team intent on improving in net to get out of non-playoff hell with few other substantial options.
Rock, meet hard place.
This is all complicated, to some degree, by the low-level animosity that exists between the two organizations, nothing compared to the high-level animosity that exists between their fan bases, with most of the hate there directed from Vancouver to Toronto.
With regard to the teams themselves, Brian Burke and Dave Nonis have long histories on the Lower Mainland, and the way in which Gillis assumed power with the Canucks while Nonis was ushered out the door has never sat well with many in hockey. The relationship worsened several years ago with Vancouver’s absurd tampering charges aimed at Burke, and very little business has gone on between the Leafs and ’Nucks in recent seasons.
Still, both teams can get around this if they can get a deal they want. Gillis needs to find a way to make it at least appear he’s not giving Luongo away, or more accurately, only receiving relief from his contract in return.
Burke has more flexibility, more wiggle room. To get it done, he can give up more than he strictly has to. It won’t be Schenn or Gardiner, but he could give up a lesser youngster. If the Canucks will take a contract back, say Mike Komisarek’s, the quality of that prospect might get better.
All in all, this is a doable deal as long as Vancouver doesn’t overestimate what it should get and the Leafs don’t squeeze the Canucks overly because there’s no market for Luongo.
They can help each other, in other words. Both might have to grit their teeth while doing so, but that’s business.


Hot air. Note that this is the Toronto Star and Damien Cox. Huge contradiction glaring through here - Toronto is the only destination for Luongo / but he's not really worth making a reasonable offer for - they want and need him, but only as a salary dump for a B rate Leaf joke. Good luck - we love Luongo and would be happy to keep him or send him to a decent hockey team - as in Florida.

More wisdom dredging up the bad blood, throwing in the "ridiculous", "absurd" and "hate" - almost as if the suggesting that the Leafs are victims. Has over-stated the contract, and the hate has certainly come Vancouver's way, every bit as much.

Deluded if he thinks the Panthers aren't interested - has missed a few crucial facts about Markstrom there - he has injury problems (knee), is only 22, and the Panthers have already come out and said he'd spend next year in the AHL. His 'facts' about Florida's willingness to spend are conveniently skewed as well.

Not going to "give up quality players or prospects"? Dream on. Not going to get Luongo.
Have it your way Leafs. Start softening up your fans for another mediocre year.

Edited by oldnews, 20 June 2012 - 10:02 AM.


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Posted 20 June 2012 - 10:10 AM

Hot air. Note that this is the Toronto Star and Damien Cox. Huge contradiction glaring through here - Toronto is the only destination for Luongo / but he's not really worth making a reasonable offer for - they want and need him, but only as a salary dump for a B rate Leaf joke. Good luck - we love Luongo and would be happy to keep him or send him to a decent hockey team - as in Florida.

More wisdom dredging up the bad blood, throwing in the "ridiculous", "absurd" and "hate" - almost as if the suggesting that the Leafs are victims. Has over-stated the contract, and the hate has certainly come Vancouver's way, every bit as much.

Deluded if he thinks the Panthers aren't interested - has missed a few crucial facts about Markstrom there - he has injury problems (knee), is only 22, and the Panthers have already come out and said he'd spend next year in the AHL. His 'facts' about Florida's willingness to spend are conveniently skewed as well.

Not going to "give up quality players or prospects"? Dream on. Not going to get Luongo.
Have it your way Leafs. Start softening up your fans for another mediocre year.


See!

It totally fired you up!

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Posted 20 June 2012 - 10:18 AM

Luongo, Sauve, Raymond, Ballard for P. Kane & Bolland?



Dont mind Kane, but we could do without the rat.

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Posted 20 June 2012 - 10:53 AM

Luo is worth more then most here are trading for other teams players.MG is smart and knows Luo will get us a 1st and 60 plus point player or more.So he is taking offers and wants to get the best to make us better and get close to a trade to get a top 5 pick.We could then trade something coming back and a first to try and get the first overall pick.I would like to see that, not saying it will happen but if it does we will have an awesome team for now and the future!
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Posted 20 June 2012 - 10:55 AM

Dont mind Kane, but we could do without the rat.


I don't want them and we would be way WAY over paying for them.
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Posted 20 June 2012 - 11:01 AM

See!

It totally fired you up!


I'm stoked. The worst option is Luongo to Toronto.

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Posted 20 June 2012 - 02:10 PM

I'm stoked. The worst option is Luongo to Toronto.


I sometimes wonder if more people in Vancouver read Cox than in Toronto?

He has the ability to get under the skin of this fan base like no one else!

I don't think Luongo is going to Toronto. Way too much animosity between Gillis and the Leaf management team. They don't like MG much and I can't imagine he is a big fan of Burke and Nonnis.

Edited by bd71, 20 June 2012 - 02:10 PM.





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