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Posted 19 June 2012 - 07:31 PM

Samuellson is not 2nd round material, Laughton and Dalton are for sure, I think there ate some great sleeps in spots 20-35, I hope gillis moves some of our excess players for 2nd rounders
Bc by the time 57 rolls around there might not be anything

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Posted 19 June 2012 - 07:32 PM

Yeah that just doesn't make sense.
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Posted 19 June 2012 - 07:43 PM

I said the same thing when I saw that... I was like a really a goalie "we have goaltending issues"

Do they not realize that offers are been looked for Luongo because Schids can be a #1? If anything I see the Devils trading up just to get Subban. There the ones whos goaltenders r both over 38.

Gillis has always gone after the best player avaib. but if thats Subban I say he skips him.

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Posted 19 June 2012 - 07:50 PM

I like Thomas Wilson

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Height: 6’4
Weight: 203
Position: Right Wing


Subtlety is not the first thing that comes to mind when discussing Wilson’s game. The Plymouth Whalers power forward uses his big frame to punish opponents and create scoring chances. And if someone doesn’t like it, he’s happy to drop the gloves.
That was the situation at the CHL/NHL Top Prospects Game when Wilson traded punches with Saskatoon’s Dalton Thrower after the Whalers big man drove Thrower’s Blades teammate, Lukas Sutter, into the boards.
Wilson busted a knuckle on Thrower’s head, but returned after missing a month and was productive.
Though Wilson isn’t a scorer in Plymouth yet, scouts know his track record from midget and the Whalers are always so deep youngsters don’t always post numbers right away. “He’s an interesting player,” said one scout. “All the attributes of an NHL power forward. He skates well is strong below the goal line and his hands an ability to make plays are underrated.”


If we could trade up a couple spots to get him, or possibly he falls to us, I would be ecstatic.

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Posted 19 June 2012 - 07:50 PM

i hope we get samuelsson... good swedish name - i expect him to be a combination of henrik sedin and mikey samuelsson... and if drafted by the canucks i expect him to be nothing short of GRETZKY

No way! It's like this...

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Posted 19 June 2012 - 07:53 PM

The OP is quick... Yea makes no sense. We'll probably take scott laughton.


mynhldraft has us picking Henrik Samuelsson, they have NJ at 29th picking Malcolm Subban.

Horrible draft, 5th overall Filip Forsberg only has 17 points in 43 games. 2 Russians in the top 4, no one is certain if they want to be in the NHL, or KHL, horrible draft.

Not a year to be trading up, so my personal prediction is we won't be seeing some crazy deal to get us 5th overall with Toronto, what we might see is our pick at 26th packaged and traded to a rebuilding team for an asset we can use.

Say, a prospect and our first for Peter Regin, or something along those lines.
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Posted 19 June 2012 - 07:59 PM

Maybe TSN can foretell that schneider will soon be run out by canucks fans as well and subban will be the next "victim" of Vancouver..... lol

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Posted 19 June 2012 - 08:03 PM

Agree- this is a bizarre draft, 90% of the guys have had major injuries this year and that Galenchyuck guy has what like 8 games this year and is supposed to go top 5!!!
No top Canadian forwards and the rankings are all over the place aside from number 1

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Posted 19 June 2012 - 08:04 PM

If Samuelsson is available and MG passes on him, I will completely lose any faith left in his drafting ability.

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Posted 19 June 2012 - 08:28 PM

why the heck do many of you not want Subban? if he falls this far, then snatch that up.. he wont be ready for awhile and he seems like a valuable asset. We could always trade him later if we wanted.. Maybe when his bro becomes an UFA he will join his little bro =)

Unless there is a better player available, I would welcome Subban any day

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Posted 19 June 2012 - 08:31 PM

why the heck do many of you not want Subban? if he falls this far, then snatch that up


We need a D..... we already have a goalie. We're not trading Luongo and Schneider.
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Posted 19 June 2012 - 08:33 PM

The sportsnet Mock draft is much better.

http://www.sportsnet...aft_mock_draft/

Here's who they have us taking: Patrick King says we select Laughton and Sam Cosentino says Aberg.
26 Posted Image Scott Laughton, C (Oshawa, OHL) Pontus Aberg, LW (Djurgarden, Swe)

King: Canucks would have seen a lot of Laughton this season as they monitored the progress of last year's first-rounder, Generals forward Nicklas Jensen. Laughton is a character centre who can play well at both ends of the rink.

Cosentino: Plays hard, shoots it well. Missed time in the second half and was limited some important viewings, but performed admirably when healthy in Sweden's top league.

But both analysts have Slater Koekkoek going after our pick, and I don't think there's a chance Gillis passes on the big defender.

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Posted 19 June 2012 - 09:44 PM

Ino people are confused at McGuire's choice but it got me thinking...

Would you rather choose a potential #1 guy in Subban over a potential 2nd/3rd liner in Samuelsson & Laughton or a bottom 4 Dman in Thrower?

Just look at our situation with Cory Schneider. We drafted Schneider with the 26th selection in the 04 draft. The players that went 24, 25, 27 and 28 are Chucko, Robby Schremp, Jeff Schultz and Mark Fristric. None are making the impact Schneider will in the NHL. Goalies just slip in the Draft because of they're position. If our motto is really 'pick the best player available', we should jump all over Subban if he is still available.

We can become the 'Goalie Market' for years to come. We also wouldn't have to rush someone like Subban with other names in front of him.

That being said, I think GMMG won't select Subban but it would be a cool scenario if he did.

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Posted 19 June 2012 - 09:44 PM

We need a D..... we already have a goalie. We're not trading Luongo and Schneider.


How do you know ? May be we are trading both goalkeeper :bigblush:
So make sense to pick Malcolm Subban, after we acquire P.K. Subban :bigblush:
Then, not only we have a sets of twins but we will soon have a pair of brothers :bigblush:
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Posted 19 June 2012 - 09:47 PM

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Posted 19 June 2012 - 09:54 PM

i'd be more than fine with getting Malcom Subban, how does it not make sense if we trade luongo? the numbers he put up on a garbage belleville team are pretty damn good, and he's one of the more nhl ready goalies in the draft.
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Posted 19 June 2012 - 09:58 PM

If Dalton Thrower is available at 26, I really hope the Canucks take him. Huge hitter, one of the best offensive defenceman in the WHL and beats up just about everyone he fights, including 6'4 Tom Wilson, who everyone thinks is the next Lucic.


I wouldn't say Thrower won that fight against Wilson, I'd be pretty happy with Subban, Thrower or Wilson at the 26 spot.

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Posted 19 June 2012 - 10:00 PM

Apperently we have "a goaltending issue" according the Pierre McGuire.

He also said Boston is gunna pick Vasilevski, yeah because they need a goaile aswell right? Rask isn't that young and good?

Pierre is a complete idiot, why did TSN have to pick there 2 worst analysts to do this.


TSN is a joke. They have really no clue what is going on with the western teams . When they talk I change the channel.

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Posted 19 June 2012 - 10:10 PM

I was quite confused when Maguire pegged the Canucks to take Malcolm Subban. Of course, it's just their mock draft so it doesn't really provide any solid indication of how the draft will actually unfold, rather it's just a very educated guess. That said, I don't consider the Canucks picking Malcolm Subban with the 26th overall to be that educated a guess.

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Posted 19 June 2012 - 10:29 PM

I could see it happening under the curcumstances that Mg has a too good to pass up offer for Schnieder. Leaves Lu to play until one of Lack, Cannata, or Subban can take the reins. Not for saying goodbye to Cory though.

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Posted 19 June 2012 - 10:29 PM

We need a D..... we already have a goalie. We're not trading Luongo and Schneider.


We aren't getting a D that will be ready in 3-5 years in this draft. I imagine a few people cried over the Schneider pick. Plus it'll be nice to watch a Canucks prospect in the world juniors.
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Posted 19 June 2012 - 10:30 PM

TSN is a joke. They have really no clue what is going on with the western teams . When they talk I change the channel.


Then how would you know?
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Posted 19 June 2012 - 10:33 PM

How do you know ? May be we are trading both goalkeepers


The word "bold" gets changed to "gillis". "Whoa dude, that was a gillis move".

I vote for trading both goalies. Lack and Subban take the net along with a vet ust in case and we spend like idiots on our forwards.
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Posted 19 June 2012 - 10:36 PM

Maybe TSN can foretell that schneider will soon be run out by canucks fans as well and subban will be the next "victim" of Vancouver..... lol


He's black, so he's really in for it if he comes here. Oh, wait, that's Boston. Nevermind.
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Posted 20 June 2012 - 12:02 AM

Samuelsson can't skate and after the Cody Hodgson fiasco I would have thought some fans would have wised up a bit concerning that particular aspect of a would be two-way forward. Plus I think his ultimate upside is limited. With a first rounder, even a late one, you have to swing big and try to land a future top 6 forward or top 4 D.

Goalies should not be taken in the first round. Too much uncertainty.

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Posted 20 June 2012 - 12:21 AM

Samuelsson can't skate and after the Cody Hodgson fiasco I would have thought some fans would have wised up a bit concerning that particular aspect of a would be two-way forward. Plus I think his ultimate upside is limited. With a first rounder, even a late one, you have to swing big and try to land a future top 6 forward or top 4 D.


You mean that guy that got 40 points in his rookie year? who worked on his skating enough to make it at least average instead of a liability

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Posted 20 June 2012 - 12:26 AM

People shouldn't comment if they do not know the prospect in the draft. Reading small reports about a prospect is instant fail. 99% of the time, Sportsnet and TSN will not mention the player's flaws. If you base the players with only the positives written on those sites, everyone player in the draft looks like a potential star in the league. Usually, its the guy who no one mentions turns into the player. IMO, there's not a lot to like in this draft.

I've always liked the idea of drafting a boom or bust from the American development program. I know, there's quite a few defense man with elite skating ability but as usual, lots of these high school kids are playing against weaker opponents but there are a lot of guys who turn out great. Krieder was a guy who was still playing in high school and looks like one of be biggest steals of the 08 draft.

You kind of already know what you are going to get from the WHL/OHL players. At the 26th? Unless It's like a Nicklas Jensen with only 1 year in the league, I'd pass.

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Posted 20 June 2012 - 12:28 AM

It was Pierre McGuire and Craig Button doing the draft, of course it makes no sense.
They are both just awful.

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Posted 20 June 2012 - 12:31 AM

It was Pierre McGuire and Craig Button doing the draft, of course it makes no sense.
They are both just awful.


Wow. Craig Button's Top 60 list was ridiculous. Mathew Dumba 2nd overall? Are you kidding me....
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Posted 20 June 2012 - 12:32 AM

You mean that guy that got 40 points in his rookie year? who worked on his skating enough to make it at least average instead of a liability


Yeah, that guy. In my experience there are three things that can't be taught: size, speed, and offensive instincts, though I suppose the latter two can be "worked on" to some respectable extent. In Samuelsson's case The Hockey New had this to say about him: "every scout we spoke to had serious concerns about his foot speed," also "he really labors around the ice."

MG doesn't strike me as a make the same mistake twice kind of guy.

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