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#3211 Mike Vanderhoek

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Posted 03 December 2012 - 05:07 PM

Three wins in a row for New Jersey with Neuvirth back in the starter's role !

Big wins over Montreal and the Islanders!
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Posted 03 December 2012 - 10:30 PM

Men here are tony romos jokes of the day

What did george Washington say to his men before they got on their horses?
Men get on your horses

What did farmer say when he lost his tractor?
Where's my tractor

What's big black and looks like a bear?
A big black bear

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Posted 03 December 2012 - 10:36 PM

Men get in your horses


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Posted 03 December 2012 - 10:40 PM

Pardon the intrusion as I never do this and promise not to again but here are AriGolds jokes for the day.

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What Does the Dallas Cowboys and the movie "Broke Back Mountain" have in common?

They both have cowboys that suck
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Why is Tony Romo unable to answer a telephone?

He can't find the receiver
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Tony Romo

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Posted 03 December 2012 - 10:43 PM

Pardon the intrusion as I never do this and promise not to again but here are AriGolds jokes for the day.

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What Does the Dallas Cowboys and the movie "Broke Back Mountain" have in common?

They both have cowboys that suck
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Why is Tony Romo unable to answer a telephone?

He can't find the receiver
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Tony Romo


Tony Romo was so frustrated with the loss he threw his iPhone 5 in anger.

It was also intercepted and returned for a touchdown.
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#3216 Tony Romo

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Posted 04 December 2012 - 07:01 AM

There was a tornado Warning In Dallas, everyone went to cowboys stadium because there's no sign of a touchdown happening there

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Posted 04 December 2012 - 05:20 PM

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Posted 04 December 2012 - 05:41 PM

NVM. That isn't going to work.

theministerCDC@hotmail.com it will stay then.


and reboot.

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Posted 04 December 2012 - 09:00 PM

Alright all, I have updated my MSN as per the OP in distinct anticipation that we will be back pooling in a week's time.

If you don't have me on your list add me and we can wheel and deal.
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Posted 04 December 2012 - 11:26 PM

Ok, OTTS talked me into to posting this..... but here is the show I am producing. Hope you like it. All feedback is welcome.

http://www2.tsn.ca/w...stcentre/#id=69

Last week we covered the Washington Capitals prospects and the WJHC roster.

Hour 1:
Ross Mahoney - Director of Amateur Scotuing Washington Capitals
Kevin Thacker - HockeyProspect.com

Hour 2:
Bill Wilms - Shaw TV Colour man Giants Hockey - 2013 draft prospects
Bob MacKenzie - TSN - WJHC Roster selections
Peter Loubardias - Shaw TV - Memorial Cup and Portland Winterhawks fine


/ This week we are covering Detroit Red Wings prospects with special guest Jim Nill, Assistant GM.
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Posted 05 December 2012 - 02:03 PM

Sharpie....check your email.
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Posted 05 December 2012 - 10:15 PM

I am cautiously optimistic.
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Posted 05 December 2012 - 10:20 PM

Ok, OTTS talked me into to posting this..... but here is the show I am producing. Hope you like it. All feedback is welcome.

http://www2.tsn.ca/w...stcentre/#id=69

Last week we covered the Washington Capitals prospects and the WJHC roster.

Hour 1:
Ross Mahoney - Director of Amateur Scotuing Washington Capitals
Kevin Thacker - HockeyProspect.com

Hour 2:
Bill Wilms - Shaw TV Colour man Giants Hockey - 2013 draft prospects
Bob MacKenzie - TSN - WJHC Roster selections
Peter Loubardias - Shaw TV - Memorial Cup and Portland Winterhawks fine


/ This week we are covering Detroit Red Wings prospects with special guest Jim Nill, Assistant GM.
Detroit.

Thank you for sharing.....I am glad to be listening.
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Posted 05 December 2012 - 10:53 PM

I am cautiously optimistic.

As am I.

My question is why didn't they do this back in August? They've done a LOT of damage here and I don't think they're going to recover the way they did last time. I know I won't be spending my money on NHL products for a long time... I'll watch on TV, hit websites and of course keep CDCGML going... but as for spending money buying their stuff... not happening. Not this season. Not next season either. After that, we'll see..
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Posted 05 December 2012 - 11:49 PM

As am I.

My question is why didn't they do this back in August? They've done a LOT of damage here and I don't think they're going to recover the way they did last time. I know I won't be spending my money on NHL products for a long time... I'll watch on TV, hit websites and of course keep CDCGML going... but as for spending money buying their stuff... not happening. Not this season. Not next season either. After that, we'll see..


Ditto.

Me? I'm only going to take their money.
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Posted 06 December 2012 - 12:45 AM

As am I.

My question is why didn't they do this back in August? They've done a LOT of damage here and I don't think they're going to recover the way they did last time. I know I won't be spending my money on NHL products for a long time... I'll watch on TV, hit websites and of course keep CDCGML going... but as for spending money buying their stuff... not happening. Not this season. Not next season either. After that, we'll see..


thats the questions that going through the heads of million hockey fans all over the world...headshakes...really

the advantage and credits that the nhl got from the nba and nfl lockouts are just gone...

the players should take this offer though ...or?

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Posted 06 December 2012 - 01:34 AM

I just came to a realization.

C2X is going to need to deal with a wedding, two kids, a job, Christmas AND read through and understand a new hundred page CBA document to adapt the game all at the same time.

Holy crap, bud. Whatever I can do.
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Posted 06 December 2012 - 04:19 AM

I just came to a realization.

C2X is going to need to deal with a wedding, two kids, a job, Christmas AND read through and understand a new hundred page CBA document to adapt the game all at the same time.

Holy crap, bud. Whatever I can do.


family is allways important...


may you and the league executives (or all cdcgml members that have a clue about this) could also work on this and help curt
well its not fixed yet
personally i would ..but the language barrier could be a problem .there are allways some things i dont understand and i have to take my english translation book...lol

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Posted 06 December 2012 - 08:58 AM

So we have agreement on 50/50 split of hockey related revenue, check.
We have the players wanting a 5 year deal, the league wanting a ten year deal, imo small issue and not a deal breaker.

We have the league offering 250 million in make whole provisions on existing contracts, while the players want 389 million. For me, this is the most interesting part...the league has tossed in another 50 million to fund pensions...and that intrigues me. I said from the start that the players need to put more emphasis on player safety and player pension funding for the kids that get up there, suffer an early injury in the NHL and for whatever reason don't go on to a long millionaires career....due to injury on the ice. This funding is a nice intro to that. All in all it leaves the sides apart by 139million on the make whole issue, or if you include the 50 million pension funding top up 89million apart. SOMEBODY slide the players down this morning, say reduce their demand to half the distance...using the 140 split, if the players come down half: 70 million then they are only apart by 70m and the league has the ball back in their court. 20 mill if you count the pension...and if say the league tosses 20 mill more into pensions, 250 in make whole and 70 mill in pension top ups...i could see a deal. This is obviously the single biggest issue, hope they get it done today.

Contract lengths: league wants 5 years..players want the status quo...I want to see owners and GM's stopped from their own greed and contracts between entry level and 35+ years of age to be allowed to be whatever they want them to be, so long as no contract goes beyond age 37 unless it is signed by a player who is already 35. I think that is fair to all and respectful of the spirit of the salary cap. Keep the clause that teams are on the hook for all years of a 35+ contract.

EDIT: the league is NOT earning 18 million a day in HRR for each day there is no hockey where there should be. Just for perspective..if they are apart 180 million..that is ten days of hockey. But if the make whole agreement is say 5 years long...that is 50 days of revenue..not profit but revenue that they are argueing about and that is a big deal..won't be easy, but it is doable.

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Posted 06 December 2012 - 09:10 AM

And I have not changed my stance really since the beginning...they aren't really argueing over todays money, they are fighting for tomorrows money. In 2019 3.3 billion of HRR will be 5.1 billion of HRR, so the current players half value of 1.65 billion will baloon to 2.55 billion in about 7 years..that is the money they are fighting over, future HRR will make this current stuff and the stuff of the last lockout season look like chump change. The 7% shift down to 50% the players have already surrendered in 2019 could be 350 million a year in HRR. That is not chump change at all. A billion every 3 years is what 7% represents at the end of this coming CBA if the league continues its good growth.
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Posted 06 December 2012 - 02:59 PM

The dilema: My son is getting an XBOX for xmas, and really really wants an nhl hockey game....I really really don't want to buy any NHL stuff....
what to do... perhaps I can distract him with guitar hero....hmm
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Posted 06 December 2012 - 06:25 PM

The way this looks to be going now, there will be no HRR at all...
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Posted 06 December 2012 - 07:16 PM

The dilema: My son is getting an XBOX for xmas, and really really wants an nhl hockey game....I really really don't want to buy any NHL stuff....
what to do... perhaps I can distract him with guitar hero....hmm

Find one used or on eBay? Sure to be lots available after tonight.
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Posted 06 December 2012 - 08:55 PM

Holy crap!! There goes the tiniest minuscule of hope I had for a season this year. Such a gut wrenching feeling.
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Posted 06 December 2012 - 08:59 PM

Find one used or on eBay? Sure to be lots available after tonight.


That's a good idea actually - I am sure EB games will have a handful of used copies.

Allows you to make your son happy without giving more money to the NHL.
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Posted 07 December 2012 - 12:25 AM

I am cautiously optimistic.


Guess I can take this back.
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Posted 07 December 2012 - 05:15 PM

Guess I can take this back.


All caution. No optimism.
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Posted 07 December 2012 - 05:36 PM

Unrestrained pessimism?

How about .....

Aggravated apathy?
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Posted 08 December 2012 - 02:26 PM

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I`ve said very little about the lockout here, blinded by optimism. I have a little to share, and it involves all of you directly.

I`ve said this, in conversation, about a hundred times since this whole thing failed in mid-september:

"The only thing keeping me even mildy tethered to the NHL is my hockey pool. It`s a great group of guys, its a great game that I believe makes the NHL a better experience for me, and we`ve all put in alot of hard work of our own."

Thank you guys for being awesome and dedicated! I wish they loved us, the way we love them.

Its not about taking sides, scapegoating bettman, calling players spoiled, scrutinizing the corporations and owners, questioning the voting and bargaining system, not anymore. Its all true now, as crap always slowly rises to the surface, and we can all see it. They`ve carelessly squandered everything like children in a tantrum, and ruined the sport. They are the laughing stock of the world of sport. They should all be ashamed of themselves.

Any other business would lose all of their patrons, if they did this to them. It is only OUR own dedication and passion, being quantified as a commodity, that allows them to behave like this, and to even hope to continue afterwards. By definition, WE are being taken advantage of in every way. It is sinking in slowly, as the insult that it truly is.

As of today i recognize that CDCGML is the ONLY reason the NHL is not dead to me. I will never see the NHL in the same light again.
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Posted 09 December 2012 - 12:10 AM

good call greens...there is nothing more to add
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