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#1111 Primal Optimist

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Posted 19 July 2012 - 09:20 AM

Very good points C2, but I am not sure if this is forcing their hand or serving notice he doesn't wanna do there anymore. It was a crushing blow to him personally when Suter took off. My read of this move is that Weber is giving up on Nashville, not trying to leverage a lifetime there.

Oh and Vanek and Kesler are not the face of their respective franchise, nor are they captains. It is slightly different when the front man does this, there are different implications than if the keyboardist or basist did it, to put it in terms of a band. Keyboardists change all the time, but the voice is the voice, usually.

I could be very wrong, but I am almost certain notice has been served that Weber is done with Nashville, which will be devastating for the team.

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Posted 19 July 2012 - 09:32 AM

the preds would be screwed if they dont match

current defence. gill, klein, josi, ellis....prospects

blum isnt signed too

who could they sign from the market though?
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Posted 19 July 2012 - 10:08 AM

If ownership commits the front end salary and bonuses to weber, do they have anything left in the cash drawer? this team has an internal cap don't forget.

last year they finished with 12 million extra cap space, the year before 8.5m to spare, almost 13m the year before that, It is safe to say their internal cap is 57 to 58 million based on a 70.2m league cap.

They are currently at 41 million and need six more guys.

Now you could go and pay 7.8m for Weber per year, but with bonuses and front end loaded contract have the owner actually pay 12m bonus and as high as 10m salary for the first two years, 22m a year for one guy is not smashville modus operendi, but aside from the actual cash, if the hit is almost 8m and you have 16m left on your 'internal cap' it is doable to match the offersheet, but then your have 8million to sign or promote 5 more guys.

Even with Weber, your team wont compete with 1 Dman and a depth chart of 7 other 2m or less Dmen.

THey need to hire 2 or 3 total Decent Dmen, a la MG with his 4.5m dollar defense, lol. Weber means the rest of the D will generally be subpar or young. No weber means they can hire 6 generally decent players. and come back and try to get in the playoffs. Weber means they have a star who doesn't want to be there, and no support.

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Posted 19 July 2012 - 10:12 AM

If ownership commits the front end salary and bonuses to weber, do they have anything left in the cash drawer? this team has an internal cap don't forget.


That's what I thought. I figured that was the only reason they wouldn't match the offersheet.
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Posted 19 July 2012 - 10:17 AM

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If you're the Preds, do you match Weber's offer sheet, or take the picks?

Personally, I'd match... Although 4 1sts is pretty tempting...



I'd work on trading him to Philly, for Sean Couturier + Brayden Schenn + 2013 1st, or threaten Philly with trading his rights to PIT, NY, VAN, etc if they don't give that up, or look to trade him elsewhere, and if all that fails, or isn't allowed to happen under the CBA rules pertaining to trading players who have been offer-sheeted....I'd sign him.
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Posted 19 July 2012 - 10:36 AM

From NSH:

"We are in receipt of the offer sheet signed between the Philadelphia Flyers and Shea Weber. Under the rules pertaining to an offer sheet, the Predators have one week to decide whether to match or accept the compensation. We have stated previously that, should a team enter into an offer sheet with Shea, our intention would be to match and retain Shea. Our ownership has provided us with the necessary resources to build a Stanley Cup-winning team. Due to the complexity of the offer sheet, we will take the appropriate time to review and evaluate it and all of its ramifications in order to make the best decision for the Predators in both the short and long-term.

“We do not anticipate any further comments on this situation until we make our decision within the next seven days.”


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Posted 19 July 2012 - 10:48 AM

It sounds like NSH was looking to trade Weber anyways, so I'm wondering if Holmgren figured his wasn't the best offer so he signed the offer sheet to jump to the front of the queue. I would not be surprised if they declined to match, took the four 1st-rounders, and traded them right back to Philly for some players. Maybe something like Coburn and/or Voracek?

If not, NSH would have 8 1st round picks in the next four years. Those are some mighty fine poker chips to bring to the trade table. I think they let him walk.
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Posted 19 July 2012 - 11:01 AM

If ownership commits the front end salary and bonuses to weber, do they have anything left in the cash drawer? this team has an internal cap don't forget.

last year they finished with 12 million extra cap space, the year before 8.5m to spare, almost 13m the year before that, It is safe to say their internal cap is 57 to 58 million based on a 70.2m league cap.

They are currently at 41 million and need six more guys.

Now you could go and pay 7.8m for Weber per year, but with bonuses and front end loaded contract have the owner actually pay 12m bonus and as high as 10m salary for the first two years, 22m a year for one guy is not smashville modus operendi, but aside from the actual cash, if the hit is almost 8m and you have 16m left on your 'internal cap' it is doable to match the offersheet, but then your have 8million to sign or promote 5 more guys.

Even with Weber, your team wont compete with 1 Dman and a depth chart of 7 other 2m or less Dmen.

THey need to hire 2 or 3 total Decent Dmen, a la MG with his 4.5m dollar defense, lol. Weber means the rest of the D will generally be subpar or young. No weber means they can hire 6 generally decent players. and come back and try to get in the playoffs. Weber means they have a star who doesn't want to be there, and no support.

You're assuming he doesn't want to be there. He's never said this himself, so it's pure speculation on your part. Also, if you're Shea, the CBA negotiations are a factor here. He's 1 year away from UFA status and a huge payday, regardless of what team he signs with. But the NHL is going after long term contracts, bonuses, etc. The window to get this kind of deal, money, term, bonuses, etc. may be closing on him. What would you do in his shoes? Do you let the owners close this window on you right as you're about to cash in, or do you take the oppourtunity to secure your financial future? What happens if they cap term at 5 years, eliminate bonuses etc. and you get a career ending injury? What Shea has done is look after his finances for life with one contract, and gotten thru under the wire before the oppourtunity to do so is closed on him. I don't blame him at all. If my bosses are threatening to limit my earning potential, but before they do, someone offers me a chance to secure my future and eliminate the risk factors for me moving forward, while offering me a ton of money at the same time, I'm taking it. What about you?

Ownership was willing to go after both Suter and Parise with offers similar to what they got (if not higher) than they got in Minny. They missed out, so why would they not be willing to commit the money to their franchise player?

Bottom line is Nashville had two stars on their defence. One walked for nothing. 2 weeks later, you can't let the other go for a handful of draft picks. Even if you have this 'internal cap', you do the best thing for your franchise.

Match the offer. Have him play next year, and if the cash isn't feasible, trade him after the year restriction is up to a team that can afford the offer. Then you can pick and choose where he goes and what you get back for him, and you can get a much better return for your team. Imagine what a team would give up to get a perennial Norris caliber defenceman who is signed for his entire career?
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Posted 19 July 2012 - 11:04 AM

You're assuming he doesn't want to be there. He's never said this himself, so it's pure speculation on your part. Also, if you're Shea, the CBA negotiations are a factor here. He's 1 year away from UFA status and a huge payday, regardless of what team he signs with. But the NHL is going after long term contracts, bonuses, etc. The window to get this kind of deal, money, term, bonuses, etc. may be closing on him. What would you do in his shoes? Do you let the owners close this window on you right as you're about to cash in, or do you take the oppourtunity to secure your financial future? What happens if they cap term at 5 years, eliminate bonuses etc. and you get a career ending injury? What Shea has done is look after his finances for life with one contract, and gotten thru under the wire before the oppourtunity to do so is closed on him. I don't blame him at all. If my bosses are threatening to limit my earning potential, but before they do, someone offers me a chance to secure my future and eliminate the risk factors for me moving forward, while offering me a ton of money at the same time, I'm taking it. What about you?

Ownership was willing to go after both Suter and Parise with offers similar to what they got (if not higher) than they got in Minny. They missed out, so why would they not be willing to commit the money to their franchise player?

Bottom line is Nashville had two stars on their defence. One walked for nothing. 2 weeks later, you can't let the other go for a handful of draft picks. Even if you have this 'internal cap', you do the best thing for your franchise.

Match the offer. Have him play next year, and if the cash isn't feasible, trade him after the year restriction is up to a team that can afford the offer. Then you can pick and choose where he goes and what you get back for him, and you can get a much better return for your team.


That's the problem. I think that the contract is structured so that over $25m is paid in bonuses before that year is up. No way a team could stomach that payment for one year of service only to trade him after the fact.
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Posted 19 July 2012 - 11:11 AM

Not saying they would trade him at all. But it's an option.

And if you're a market like Nashville, who has finally gotten close to building a winner, can you afford not to match this? Losing two star defenceman and not getting a single roster player in return? Nashville doesn't have the offense or the defensive depth to not take a big step down if they let Weber go. Can you sell to your fan base that such a plan was the best thing for the team?

Nashville is in a precarious spot here. Neither path is desirable. But in matching, they can manage how things go a bit and the concerns can be mitigated by good management and either eliminated or at the very least, made into something they can work with. If they let him go, it's very possible it's just the first step on a vicious downward spiral. Suter walks. Weber goes for picks. Some fans stop coming to games (let's face it, those two sell tickets). Nashville takes step backwards on ice, misses playoffs. Fewer fans renew season tickets. With less revenue coming in, the 'internal cap' could shrink. The team has to rebuild again. Even with those picks, it will take a while.

After all that time patiently building a contender, can they risk all that because they didn't want to pay their franchise player a few extra bucks to stay and help them keep moving towards winning a Cup?
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Posted 19 July 2012 - 11:19 AM

I reiterate.

If I was a GM of a team - I take the picks.

If you look at the Nashville roster, they have been gutted from the team that was there last year. With a 1st round pick every year that could be traded, you can easily fill 4 holes.


If I am David Poile/Nashville - I match the offer.

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Posted 19 July 2012 - 11:20 AM

Like Arby said......8 1st rounders, ain't too shabby either.

With their drafting abilities, they could get some serious returns for those picks, or even move up in the draft next year, which is shaping up to be a good one, and snag some possible franchise players who, if the new CBA is done to lock up ELC's for 5 years instead of 3, could work out very well in keeping a young and possibly dynamic core of forwards and dmen together for a very long time.

Worth thinking about.
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Posted 19 July 2012 - 11:38 AM

Like Arby said......8 1st rounders, ain't too shabby either.

With their drafting abilities, they could get some serious returns for those picks, or even move up in the draft next year, which is shaping up to be a good one, and snag some possible franchise players who, if the new CBA is done to lock up ELC's for 5 years instead of 3, could work out very well in keeping a young and possibly dynamic core of forwards and dmen together for a very long time.

Worth thinking about.



yeah 8 1st rounders sounds like krass stuff....i hope iginla will get an offersheet next season @ cdcgml though... :ph34r:
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Posted 19 July 2012 - 11:48 AM

You're assuming he doesn't want to be there. He's never said this himself, so it's pure speculation on your part.

Also, if you're Shea, the CBA negotiations are a factor here. He's 1 year away from UFA status and a huge payday, regardless of what team he signs with. But the NHL is going after long term contracts, bonuses, etc. The window to get this kind of deal, money, term, bonuses, etc. may be closing on him. What would you do in his shoes? Do you let the owners close this window on you right as you're about to cash in, or do you take the oppourtunity to secure your financial future? What happens if they cap term at 5 years, eliminate bonuses etc. and you get a career ending injury? What Shea has done is look after his finances for life with one contract, and gotten thru under the wire before the oppourtunity to do so is closed on him. I don't blame him at all. If my bosses are threatening to limit my earning potential, but before they do, someone offers me a chance to secure my future and eliminate the risk factors for me moving forward, while offering me a ton of money at the same time, I'm taking it. What about you?

To the first line, he signed an offer with another team: that is saying out loud: I wanna play for that other team. It is amplified by the fact he is the current teams captain.

To the rest: I am in no way saying Weber did the wrong thing, you me and our uncles would do the same thing he did in signing that offer sheet 9 times out of ten. His motivation has nothing to do with the teams choice however. The teams choice to match will be based on the year by year real dollar costs, and the optics of their Captain signing an offer sheet after being emotional about the departure of Suter. It is just my read of it, and just my opinion, but Weber is done in Nashville. Que 2 or 3 years of tanking and getting a lottery shot to go with their 8 number one draft picks over 4 years.
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Posted 19 July 2012 - 01:12 PM

yeah 8 1st rounders sounds like krass stuff....i hope iginla will get an offersheet next season @ cdcgml though... :ph34r:



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Posted 19 July 2012 - 01:30 PM

My take on the Weber situation:

Captain does not want to be a part of my team, I can get some draft picks that will be low in the rounds, but those are some quality prospects that I could put time into developing, not to mention my mid-early 1st round picks due to my own clubs performances. My captain will just be terrible both on and off the ice, and will continue to request trades, making my job miserable and that much more difficult.

I would take the compensation and just move on.
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Posted 19 July 2012 - 02:06 PM

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Posted 19 July 2012 - 02:57 PM

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Posted 19 July 2012 - 03:22 PM

I don't match. The Captain of the team just signed and agreed to a deal with a different team.

How do you match that and overcome the optics? He just served notice that he is no longer the captain of the Predators, and while that sucks for the franchise, you take the picks and move on. Sad day when you match an offer sheet the Team Captain himself signed.

If they match this, the team is doomed more so than if they don't.


Edit: my math says the offer could have been in the second highest catagory:


so they might only get 2 firsts a second and a third, but I still don't match it. The Captain of the team signed with another team...that is the end of that relationship, in my opinion.


2 words: David Backes

Also, it'll be the AAV or salary for the first 5 years, whichever comes first. In this case, it'll be the first 5 years, and most likely it'll be front loaded. Thus, it'll be 4 1sts

Can you give up your franchise player for a handful of picks and still convince a market like Nashville that you want to win? Especially after you just lost another top defenceman for nothing? The Preds finally put themselves in a position where they could be considered legit Cup contenders. Suter walks for nothing, which was a huge blow. If Weber goes too, and all they get back is draft picks... I just don't see any scenario in which that works out well for them. If you ask me, the Predators HAVE to match this offer. They've got the cap space to do it, and not matching it could be catastrophic not only for the on ice product but for the teams standing in their market.

@Primal: by that logic Thomas Vanek hasn't wanted to be in Buffalo for years. Ryan Kesler wanted out of Vancouver. etc. The Preds already went public that they would match ANY offer sheet for Weber. Shea signing this could just be that he finally got the numbers he wanted, and so forced Nashville's hand to get a deal done. He may have signed it with the intent to remain in Nashville for the rest of his career. Perhaps he was tired of all the politics, the trade rumours, the negotiations that seemed to be stalling over and over... so he jumped at the chance when an avenue was presented to him where he could control his destiny (now it's either Philly or Nashville, no other option and he was able to choose that himself) and likely get the long term security the Preds were reluctant to give him in negotiations.

I just don't see how the Preds don't match this. I'd be shocked if they didn't.


Same, they even showed Suter they'd spend the money (Rinne, trading for Fisher, and also see Gaustad's contract).

They have 29 million in cap space, Radulov is gone, where else will they spend to get to the Cap floor?

If ownership commits the front end salary and bonuses to weber, do they have anything left in the cash drawer? this team has an internal cap don't forget.

last year they finished with 12 million extra cap space, the year before 8.5m to spare, almost 13m the year before that, It is safe to say their internal cap is 57 to 58 million based on a 70.2m league cap.

They are currently at 41 million and need six more guys.

Now you could go and pay 7.8m for Weber per year, but with bonuses and front end loaded contract have the owner actually pay 12m bonus and as high as 10m salary for the first two years, 22m a year for one guy is not smashville modus operendi, but aside from the actual cash, if the hit is almost 8m and you have 16m left on your 'internal cap' it is doable to match the offersheet, but then your have 8million to sign or promote 5 more guys.

Even with Weber, your team wont compete with 1 Dman and a depth chart of 7 other 2m or less Dmen.

THey need to hire 2 or 3 total Decent Dmen, a la MG with his 4.5m dollar defense, lol. Weber means the rest of the D will generally be subpar or young. No weber means they can hire 6 generally decent players. and come back and try to get in the playoffs. Weber means they have a star who doesn't want to be there, and no support.


They budgeted so they could sign both Weber/Suter for 7+ million. Ownership said they will no longer constrain Poile and allow him to spend to be a contendor.

To that bolded point, see Minni's Defense even with Suter ;) (Only him and Gilbert above 1.1 million)

EDIT: I will match unless the deal is somehow 100 million in initial signing bonuses with 500k per season salary, then I'd have to think about it.

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Posted 19 July 2012 - 08:53 PM

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Posted 20 July 2012 - 10:29 AM

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Hossa, who led the Blackhawks with 77 points last season, was knocked out and suffered a concussion when the Coyotes' Raffi Torres left his feet to deliver the high, hard blow in the first period of the game on April 17.
Hossa was rushed off the ice on a stretcher and went to the hospital.
On Friday, Hossa said he had resumed high-intensity off-ice training several weeks ago and has experienced no ill effects. He has not yet started skating again, however.
"Right now I'm better and where I want to be," Hossa said. "Everything has been good so far.
"I've been able to train at a high level so far and that's my goal. It will be a little different when I get on the ice and get hit or someone pushes me."
Torres received a 25-game suspension on April 21 and missed the Coyotes' final 13 playoff games.
NHL Commissioner Gary Bettman reduced the suspension by four games on July 2, so Torres will sit out the upcoming preseason and the first eight games of the 2012-13 regular season.
Hossa still isn't able to recall all the details of the hit.
"For a few seconds I didn't know where I was," he said. "And basically I ended up in the hospital and then I started remembering things. The first few days I was in a dark room and slowly things became a little better.
"Time has passed by and it's very helpful. It just took time to calm down and relax."
Hossa said he was angry at Torres after the incident, but now he's focused on the future.
"Now I'm just looking ahead," he said.


This is great news for Mr. Hossa and the Flyers organization. We wish him a speedy recovery.


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Posted 21 July 2012 - 08:37 PM

Can Nashville really survive with a seemingly personality-less goaltender as their only legit start player? How long can they survive missing the playoffs? How long can they leech off of the popularity of Mike Fisher's wife?

If Nashville doesn't match, how long do they last in Nashville?
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Posted 21 July 2012 - 08:39 PM

With the signing of center Derek Mackenzie here is the updated Red Wings Roster:


Detroit Red Wings:

Zach Parise - Jamie Benn - Patrick Sharp
Scott Hartnell - Saku Koivu - Daniel Alfredsson
Mark Letestu - Dave Bolland - Trevor Lewis
Cody McCormick - Derek Mackenzie - Matt Bradley
Lennart Petrell

Dustin Byfuglein - Brent Seabrook
James Wisniewski - Toni Lydman
Rusty Klesla - Brett Clark
Jim Vandermeer - Matt Corrente

Jonathan Quick
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Ryan Howse - Andreas Engqvist - Maxim Mayorov
Ludvig Rensfeldt - Brock Nelson -

Teemu Laakso - Charles-Olivier Roussel
Sebastien Erixon

Mark Visentin

Curt, could you update my page please? :)

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Posted 21 July 2012 - 09:03 PM

Can Nashville really survive with a seemingly personality-less goaltender as their only legit start player? How long can they survive missing the playoffs? How long can they leech off of the popularity of Mike Fisher's wife?

If Nashville doesn't match, how long do they last in Nashville?


Exactly. If the team doesn't commit to their best/franchise player, who would ever want to play there and why would fans bother support their team? It's basically a referendum on the city of Nashville if the owner feels he can sustain hockey there. It'll be a sad sad day in sports if he chooses to let him go.
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Posted 21 July 2012 - 09:17 PM

Exactly. If the team doesn't commit to their best/franchise player, who would ever want to play there and why would fans bother support their team? It's basically a referendum on the city of Nashville if the owner feels he can sustain hockey there. It'll be a sad sad day in sports if he chooses to let him go.

And if Weber really doesn't want to play in Nashville, he can suck it up for a year and let Nashville have their say on who they trade him to, and they can ensure they get a guy who can replace Weber's stardom in return.

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Weber to Anaheim for Ryan
Weber to Boston for Seguin or Bergeron
Weber to Carolina for Skinner
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Posted 21 July 2012 - 11:36 PM

And if Weber really doesn't want to play in Nashville, he can suck it up for a year and let Nashville have their say on who they trade him to, and they can ensure they get a guy who can replace Weber's stardom in return.

2013 Potential Trades:

Weber to Anaheim for Ryan
Weber to Boston for Seguin or Bergeron
Weber to Carolina for Skinner
Weber to Colorado for Duchene
Weber to Chicago for P. Kane
Weber to Edmonton for Hall
Weber to San Jose for Couture
Weber to Winnipeg for E. Kane


its pretty evident webers trying to make a buck now before the new cba and have a say in where he wants to play.
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Posted 22 July 2012 - 06:29 AM

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I totally agree with a couple recent posts about Weber, this is more or less similar to a referendum on Hockey in Nashville. The thing is, in my humble opinion, if the future of Hockey in Nashville is this heavily dependant upon a Captain that just signed a contract with another team: Then the ballot has already been cast. Weber is no Gretzky, and no Crosby. The mere idea that the future of Hockey in Nashville may be dependant upon one persons willingness or lack thereof to stay and guide the team IS the end of hockey in Nashville. If it was a Gretzky, a Crosby, sure you can say that..but a Weber? No. The owner is an idiot if he allows the idiot GM to match this offer. 2 years before Chicago won the cup you could here a lone drunk in their arena due to an absolute abysmal attendance yelling at the Canucks to go back to Canada..then he started in on his own team "Get off the ice, your embarrassing us". 2 and a half years later they hoisted the cup. If Nashville allows Weber to hold a gun to their head they won't hoist a cup at any time in the duration of his contract. If they accept the compensation, they could take aim at a situation 4 or 5 years from now.

As for Backes: his offer sheet was for 2.5m and it was after his first year of NHL hockey, long before he was ever considered as Captain Material.

At this point I would be completely shocked if Poille is allowed to match by his boss. I have no doubt he would match if he is allowed to make the decision alone. His job depends on it, and frankly it may be too late in that regard, he may be done there already.

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Posted 22 July 2012 - 07:29 AM

It is with some sadness that the New York Rangers would like to file to release Rhett Rakhshani from the minor league Connecticut Whale. Rhett is under contract with the HV71 squad of the Swedish Elite League for the coming year. In 7 career NHL appearances, the 5 foot 10 inch 24 year old has been held pointless. The speedy winger had high promise as a point per game AHL player, and his presence on the Whale will be missed.

Similarily, we would like to file to release Mike Murphy, a fantastic young netminder, coveted for the depth in goal he brought to our organization this offseason. Mike has chosen to sign and play in the KHL this year, and while his speed and skillset are going to be tough to replace, his age and size make it unlikely that he will return to the NHL.

We wish both players well on their continued journey's in Professional Hockey.

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