Super_Canuck Posted June 21, 2012 Share Posted June 21, 2012 Up until a few days ago, I was all about trading Luongo but I've changed my mind now, mostly due to the fact that Schneider can get us a better return. The trade market doesn't seem to be too hot for Lu because of his hefty contract and it seems like any team that's interested is trying to low ball us. We know exactly what we have in Lu, 35-40 wins guaranteed. Sure he has the odd dud of a game but so does every other goalie in the league. When you play 60+ games every year, it's bound to happen. It will happen to Schneider aswell when his work load is doubled. If Corey is say for example a 9/10, then Luongo is what? an 8.5/10? I mean not that big of a difference in terms of the impact on the team, but there is a big difference in what each goalie can fetch us. Whoever we trade, we need to get a piece in return that can help us win a cup and I don't think Lu can get that on the trade market. Roberto has atleast 4-5 good years left in him and I think that's pretty much our window to win aswell with this core. After that, who knows where this franchise will be. Maybe we'll have another great goalie in our system to be the no.1 on the big club (lack?) or perhaps there would be an UFA. We've had it so good here in terms of goaltending for the past 6 years, that we forget how bad our goalies were pre 2006. We were desperate for just solid goaltending back then, and now we've been spoiled with great goalies the past few years. Fans here de-value what Luongo has done. The guy is extremely experienced, he's played in pressure packed situations at the highest levels. We can win a cup with him. If Detroit can win with Osgood, Chicago with Niemi and Boston with a 38 year old Thomas, then Lui can also get the job done. His cap hit is not all that bad, especially considering where the cap is nowadays. Yes the term is bad but not the cap number. Most goalies of his caliber make the same or more. In a few years, Corey will me making just as much. For those of you who argue that his actual salary is a lot, to them is say who cares? It's not our money, what us fans should be worried about is the salary cap number, not what his actual income is. Salary cap # is the only thing that should concern us because it effects the rest of the team building process. Aqulini can pay him $15 mil/year if he wants, but as long as his cap number is 5.33, it's all good. I'm not a Luongo hater and neither am I a big fan of the guy (although i used to be). His play over the last 2-3 years has frustrated me at times just like everyone else (he hasn't been the same since that groin injury in Pitt he suffered a few years ago). But I think keeping Lu and trading Schneider is the logical choice if it means we can get more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kass9 Posted June 21, 2012 Share Posted June 21, 2012 In my opinion, it's time for a change for Luongo and the city. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan Murray Posted June 21, 2012 Share Posted June 21, 2012 I would prefer a Canucks drafted goalie, and one that was developed by the organization. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brad Marchand Posted June 21, 2012 Share Posted June 21, 2012 I'd support trading Schneider just to troll a bunch of whiny Canucks "fans". No, this does not include everyone who wants to trade Luongo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Brahma Bull Posted June 21, 2012 Share Posted June 21, 2012 I prefer the trade that will actually make us a better team and not just for the sake of getting rid of someone. If trading Lu can make us a bit better by what it brings back, trade him. On the other hand, there are teams that will sell the farm to get Schneider. We could land a potent offensive player for Cory. Go all in and win a damn cup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldnews Posted June 21, 2012 Share Posted June 21, 2012 Schneider is like Burrows, the Sedins, Bieksa, Edler, Kesler, Hansen, Raymond, Tanev... Canuck from day 1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan Murray Posted June 21, 2012 Share Posted June 21, 2012 I prefer the trade that will actually make us a better team and not just for the sake of getting rid of someone. If trading Lu can make us a bit better by what it brings back, trade him. On the other hand, there are teams that will sell the farm to get Schneider. We could land a potent offensive player for Cory. Go all in and win a damn cup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Brahma Bull Posted June 21, 2012 Share Posted June 21, 2012 Schneider is like Burrows, the Sedins, Bieksa, Edler, Kesler, Hansen, Raymond, Tanev... Canuck from day 1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spencer Drew Posted June 21, 2012 Share Posted June 21, 2012 *sigh* Schneider is the future, Luongo is not. If Schneider had started the series against LA, I guarantee the Canucks wouldn't be down three games to none, even though Luongo was one of the better players in the series, the Canucks don't play the same in front of Luongo as they do Schneider. They play with more confidence in front of Schneider. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GradinToSmyl Posted June 21, 2012 Share Posted June 21, 2012 You mean all of those players that Luongo bailed out time and time again so that they could develop into solid players and not be shipped out (not including Raymond cuz he sucks and Tanev cuz he's pretty new)? If we didn't have stable goaltending while the sedins, etc. were maturing, I'm quite positive a lot of them would have been packing their bags. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jägermeister Posted June 21, 2012 Share Posted June 21, 2012 I love these kind of threads. Luckily I get 2 or 3 new ones to read everyday! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kack Zassian Posted June 21, 2012 Share Posted June 21, 2012 Honest Question Do you think the team is better with A ) Schneider and average assets returned in a Luongo trade or B ) Luongo and a strong return on assets for Schneider. We should be pretty impartial with which goalie we trade, and hope for the best possible return either way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanKeslord17 Posted June 21, 2012 Share Posted June 21, 2012 Nope, trade Lu. We should keep the better and younger goalie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master Mind Posted June 21, 2012 Share Posted June 21, 2012 I would prefer a Canucks drafted goalie, and one that was developed by the organization. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canuckaidian Posted June 21, 2012 Share Posted June 21, 2012 *sigh* Schneider is the future, Luongo is not. If Schneider had started the series against LA, I guarantee the Canucks wouldn't be down three games to none, even though Luongo was one of the better players in the series, the Canucks don't play the same in front of Luongo as they do Schneider. They play with more confidence in front of Schneider. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Architect Posted June 21, 2012 Share Posted June 21, 2012 In complete honesty, Luongo is the one who should go. Schneider is far younger, and this team needs a change. A big one at that. Seeing as Management, coaching staff, and the sedins/kes/bieksa are here to stay for the long haul, its only a matter of time before everyone choses the one who must go... and unfortunately, it is Roberto Luongo. We should all appreciate what he's done for this organization- but it is time for a new era. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GradinToSmyl Posted June 21, 2012 Share Posted June 21, 2012 An argument for them playing with less confidence in front of Schneider is they try to play better in front of him which could mean they have less trust in him bailing them out. On the other hand they play less solid in front of Luongo because they feel like he'll bail them out again and again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canuckaidian Posted June 21, 2012 Share Posted June 21, 2012 I would prefer a Canucks drafted goalie, and one that was developed by the organization. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trebreh Posted June 21, 2012 Share Posted June 21, 2012 Unless were getting names like Ryan,Nash,Couturier ... I suggest we keep the younger, better and home grown talent that we've developed for 8 friggin years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vansicle Posted June 21, 2012 Share Posted June 21, 2012 Nonsense has just been redefined, call Oxford. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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