GradinToSmyl Posted June 21, 2012 Share Posted June 21, 2012 Are you done? Soother? Come back and cry some more when Lou is traded to Toronto. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Line Juggler Posted June 21, 2012 Share Posted June 21, 2012 Nope, trade Lu. We should keep the better and younger goalie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VanGnome Posted June 21, 2012 Share Posted June 21, 2012 Honest Question Do you think the team is better with A ) Schneider and average assets returned in a Luongo trade or B ) Luongo and a strong return on assets for Schneider. We should be pretty impartial with which goalie we trade, and hope for the best possible return either way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GradinToSmyl Posted June 21, 2012 Share Posted June 21, 2012 That being said, I wouldn't say no to 5th overall + Grabovski or MacArthur + a defensive prospect for Luongo + 1st. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Garret's moustache Posted June 21, 2012 Share Posted June 21, 2012 We can't afford to lose Schneider, we're all too worried about our window, but what about when our window is through? Well have a 40 year old bum of a goalie, where as, we keep Schneider, barring a major fluke, or injury, well have solid goaltending for 10-15 more years! Yes. It is a fact that Schneider will bring an astronomically larger return than Luongo, but ask, are the assets we will get in return worth Schneider? Would you rather have a solid d man prospect and a 1st round pick, or a goalie who is ensured to keep us with solid goal keeping? Bottom line, and I've said this a billion times before, the only way I'd even CONSIDER trading Schneider, is if we get a Hedman, or someone like that. Other than that, which is quite unlikely, I'm 100000% in favor of trading Luongo. P.S. Please excuse the many grammar and spelling mistakes, I wrote this on an iPhone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vansicle Posted June 21, 2012 Share Posted June 21, 2012 Kudos on the contraction of you and are, oops on embarrassment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trevor19Naslund Posted June 21, 2012 Share Posted June 21, 2012 Schneider has that calmness and doesn't get rattled much like Luongo. IT IS TIME FOR A CHANGE. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ABurrows14 Posted June 21, 2012 Share Posted June 21, 2012 Honest answer? A. Why? We don't need an elite return for Luongo to put this team over the edge. The team as it is plays remarkably better in front of Schneider vs in front of Luongo. My observation is that Luongo has likely lost the team's confidence and trust whereas Schneider now has it. We have enough top end talent as it is, what we need is higher quality and more balanced depth to take the pressure off our marquee players who are asked to overcompensate for our lack of good depth. Daniel, Henrik, Burrows, Kesler, Booth, Hamhuis, Bieksa, Edler are our marquee guys that's a pretty good core if you ask me. Higgins, Hansen, Lappiere, Malhotra, Ballard, and Tanev are good supporting guys. What we need are 1-2 pieces (Top 6 forward, Top 4 defenceman) which can be classified between group A and Group C. Taking into account the limited number of trading partners we have with regard to Luongo (off the top of my head I can think of Toronto, Florida, New Jersey, Chicago and San Jose), some of them being remote chances at best. Trading Luongo may not return the absolute best value, but keeping Schneider requires the fewest number of changes to the roster in order to push the team over the edge. If I'm Gillis, I'm looking at value players, those who perform the best in their respective roles for the lowest average dollar per statistic, as well players in the 24-28 age range. Think guys like Grabovski, MacArthur, Clarkson, Stalberg, Bolland, Pavelski, Clowe up front. I don't think we need to trade for a defenceman, the UFA market while a little thin has options that would compliment our current group well: Wideman, Carle, Allen, Colaiacovo, Morrisonn, Campoli etc. Trading Luongo is not only benefiting our situation but his as well, and there are options in the UFA market that enable us to get a respectable return for Luongo, were not in a position to have to the get the absolute best value possible. That being said, I wouldn't say no to 5th overall + Grabovski or MacArthur + a defensive prospect for Luongo + 1st. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GradinToSmyl Posted June 21, 2012 Share Posted June 21, 2012 Schneider has that calmness and doesn't get rattled much like Luongo. IT IS TIME FOR A CHANGE. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GradinToSmyl Posted June 21, 2012 Share Posted June 21, 2012 You know whats most absurd about this debate. Many of those who state Lou is better also state we'll get more for Schnieder, but fail to see the internal contradiction in their logic. Lol.. Lou is going. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nuckle Posted June 21, 2012 Share Posted June 21, 2012 Trade Schneider, get a sick forward or d-man, draft Malcolm Subban and develop the crap out of him and/or Eddie Lack. Then we will have 2 Cory Schneider's by the time Luongo will retire. Bingo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vansicle Posted June 21, 2012 Share Posted June 21, 2012 It will be interesting to see what happens when he is the clear #1 and not playing with a $5.33M Italian safety net. He also hasn't had the chance to get rattled. He did however get thirsty and left a playoff game early. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ABurrows14 Posted June 21, 2012 Share Posted June 21, 2012 The contract status and age of each obviously comes into play when determining trade value. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tjkaemingh Posted June 21, 2012 Share Posted June 21, 2012 Pros and cons. Can be argued either way. Time will tell. Everybody has their own personal feelings. Move CS? Pros: Better package/assets in return. Lou is a great goalie and a fair cap hit. Cons: We do not like Lous little melt downs on ocaission. CS has not played 40+ games in a season (minor detail) Lose future great goalie Move Lou? Pros: clear cap space, get younger (not a big deal here). Lou still fits in our window (3-4 yrs) CS seems more stable, solid. time for a change (relationship?) Cons lose experience less assets in return than trading CS. Either way, MG has the final say and time will tell. Lets just hope the team is better off in September and has a greater chance to win the cup in June 2013 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canucklehead420 Posted June 21, 2012 Share Posted June 21, 2012 Please focus on who is the better goalie. And then shut up and leave. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ABurrows14 Posted June 21, 2012 Share Posted June 21, 2012 call me when schneider gets 4 SOs in one playoff run. oh yeah hes gotta get more tha 1 win first. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GradinToSmyl Posted June 21, 2012 Share Posted June 21, 2012 call me when schneider gets 4 SOs in one playoff run. oh yeah hes gotta get more tha 1 win first. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GradinToSmyl Posted June 21, 2012 Share Posted June 21, 2012 call me when schneider gets 4 SOs in one playoff run. oh yeah hes gotta get more tha 1 win first. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canucklehead420 Posted June 21, 2012 Share Posted June 21, 2012 Call me when Lou is traded and you finish crying. I am sure you will be in a state of denial then too. And do me a favour. When the nucks win the cup with Schnieds in net, go cheer for Lou's team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ABurrows14 Posted June 21, 2012 Share Posted June 21, 2012 you'll be waitin for quite a while. wouldnt hold my breath. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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