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[Rumours/Reports] Official Roberto Luongo Trade Thread (Keep it all here please)

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Toronto can't step up their offer because they are already doing the best they can; offering an entire team of plugs.

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No kidding. He's not a free agent, he's under contract w/ the Canucks, so why would they be talking to his agent? They're not allowed to. If they're interested they'll be talking to Gillis and Gilman

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Again, I don't think Brian burke was ever interested in Luongo, probably because of the contract, as we know, he is not a fan of that type of contract.  Nonis we know, is really interested in him, but Burke has the final say.  Burke has offered us refusable offers in order to look like he is trying to add better players, when in fact he has very little interest.  This way, he can protect his own interest, by at least look like he is trying to trade for Luongo. If he does nothing, and everything goes bad next season, he will get thrown under the bus.  However  if he's made the offers to Gillis, at least the media cannot lash out at him for "not trying" because he can say, he's already tried, to trade for Luongo.     Epic fail on his assistant too, for saying they don't want to give up too many assets for Luongo. Fail.

We will gladly hang onto him into the regular season were his value will go up, once teams realize they need goaltending, or once Luongo starts playing real good again, the interest will be there.   Burke can go screw himself.

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Hey breaking news...Vancouver canucks have signed Jason Garrison.

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So they are potentially taking on 10 years of contract without speaking to Luongo or his agent?

You would think Gillis would grant them the right to do that, what a dick!

"@hfialkov: Correcting earlier tweet. Panthers haven't spoken to Canucks recently. I mistakenly said Luomgos agent sorry #flapanthers"

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If Burke is counting on using the "I tried" excuse, he's going to be in trouble. MLSE will counter with "you failed".

Burke can state that he's comfortable with his goaltending, but it's just posturing. As is his feigned "disinterest" in Luongo. He's trying to minimize the cost, as are Tallon and Yzerman.

Of the three, Burke is the most likely to lose his job if he misses another postseason. Stevie Y will survive because he's Stevie Y and Tallon will likely get a mulligan.

However, fans and media in all three cities would look at their respective GMs and say "You should have made the deal" should they fail to make the playoffs next year.

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If MG can't move Lu for a decent return, whether that be prospects, picks or players, the owners have to question  MG's handling of the whole Luongo/Schneider affair and subsequent expectations for Lu.

WIth a number of teams obviously in need of better goaltending, the difficulty in moving Lu (who's cap hit and realistic 6 year tenure are not a stumbling block) would seem to indicate Lu's reputation and/or the drama surrounding him, make him a far less attractive asset than MG and many Vancouver fans believe.

Lu's contract was MG's baby and he has to own-up to that.  The politics and awkwardness surrounding Cory and Lu is also of his making.  If he can't move LU after all has been said by him, Lu and others, MG has badly mismanaged the Vancouver goalie situation and as an owner, I would be concerned what that could mean for the team going forward.

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What you term "badly mismanaged", I would call another season with the best goaltending tandem in the league, albeit with more Cap commitment than he would like.

There is nothing to say that Luongo couldn't be asked to waive his NTC at the trade deadline, should it then become apparent to Burke, or one of the Florida-based GMs that their goaltending is once again not getting it done and they are in danger of missing the playoffs.

I believe that Gillis would have exactly zero trepidation about going to Aquilini and telling him the offers for Luongo's services simply weren't good enough and that he would revisit them later in the season. YMMV.

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What you term "badly mismanaged", I would call another season with the best goaltending tandem in the league, albeit with more Cap commitment than he would like.

There is nothing to say that Luongo couldn't be asked to waive his NTC at the trade deadline, should it then become apparent to Burke, or one of the Florida-based GMs that their goaltending is once again not getting it done and they are in danger of missing the playoffs.

I believe that Gillis would have exactly zero trepidation about going to Aquilini and telling him the offers for Luongo's services simply weren't good enough and that he would revisit them later in the season. YMMV.

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If Gillis can get any sort of significant return for Luongo after whats gone on, he deserves a gold medal.

Just look at all of the blunders that have gone on since the end of the season that has hurt this process.

From Lu hinting that he wanted a trade, to AV leaking it to the media that he had actually requested a trade, and even more recently to Luongo saying that he would prefer to go to Florida.

If anyone thinks this is an easy trade for Gillis to make, you're ignoring the situation here.

If anyone's hurt Luongo's value the most, it's Luongo. Teams are afraid to take him on long term because of what's gone on here the last 6 years. With the meltdowns, the media confrontations, and the losing the number 1 position to a younger goalie. It's no surprise that teams are a little hesitant.

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If Gillis can get any sort of significant return for Luongo after whats gone on, he deserves a gold medal.

Just look at all of the blunders that have gone on since the end of the season that has hurt this process.

From Lu hinting that he wanted a trade, to AV leaking it to the media that he had actually requested a trade, and even more recently to Luongo saying that he would prefer to go to Florida.

If anyone thinks this is an easy trade for Gillis to make, you're ignoring the situation here.

If anyone's hurt Luongo's value the most, it's Luongo. Teams are afraid to take him on long term because of what's gone on here the last 6 years. With the meltdowns, the media confrontations, and the losing the number 1 position to a younger goalie. It's no surprise that teams are a little hesitant.

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How Panthers even CAN speak to Luongo's agent if Luongo IS under contract with Canucks?

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A deal will happen- we're just the ones who are impatient.

Enjoy the sunshine folks!

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The tweet was corrected, but there is no reason Gillis wouldn't give permission to Florida to talk to Lu and his agent. Lu has a NTC, to he would want to get an idea of his role in Florida. Before a deal is done they most definitely will have spoken.

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I would imagine they would want Lu to eventually be a mentor for Markstrom, just like he was to Schneider. Schneider does owe alot of credit to Lu for helping him become the number 1 goalie he has.

And if you look at it, Markstrom's 22 years old right now. He's at least a year or two away from making the NHL IMO. So when you take into account the fact that Schneider didn't become a starter until he was 26, that's another 4 years for Markstrom.

So that would allow them to have at least 4 years of Luongo being the starter and giving them a chance to win while their young prospects develop. Then after 4 years, Luongo is 37 years old and probably more or less ready to take on a backup role for a couple years before he retires at age 39. And the good thing is having a bigger cap hit will help them because they'll have alot of young players on cheap contracts. Then the last 4 years of his contract can easily be bought out because of the lower salary at the end of his contract, or he can simply retire.

Really it makes alot of sense when you break it down for the Panthers.

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In b4 sundins boyfriend sees this and goes apesh*t hahaha

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If Gillis can get any sort of significant return for Luongo after whats gone on, he deserves a gold medal.

Just look at all of the blunders that have gone on since the end of the season that has hurt this process.

From Lu hinting that he wanted a trade, to AV leaking it to the media that he had actually requested a trade, and even more recently to Luongo saying that he would prefer to go to Florida.

If anyone thinks this is an easy trade for Gillis to make, you're ignoring the situation here.

If anyone's hurt Luongo's value the most, it's Luongo. Teams are afraid to take him on long term because of what's gone on here the last 6 years. With the meltdowns, the media confrontations, and the losing the number 1 position to a younger goalie. It's no surprise that teams are a little hesitant.

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I don't have a problem with last year's goalie tandem scenario.  I am speaking more to the post-season.  Much of the difficulty for MG results from Lu's comments  following the team's loss in the 1st round and since. So in MG's defence, I acknowledge Lu has not done him any favours.  How do you bring Lu back to training camp after what he has said publicly?  There is no more "Lu is #1 and Cory is his backup" on the Nucks.  Cory was clear he wants to be a starter and he was given a contract to reflect that. I can't see both of them (friends or not) sharing duties and believe it would be a huge distraction for the rest of the team.

MG played this like he was confident Lu would go (or knowing Lu had requested a trade and wasn't cming back).  So to not be able to move him for a decent return has to be seen a a failure in strategy and/or judgement.

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