oldnews Posted June 25, 2012 Share Posted June 25, 2012 That doesn't work both ways though, right? I hope to god you are correct in your proposal I also hope I win the lottery Both are equal in chance IMO If luongo really did say only florida, MG has ZERO barging power. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hky14 Posted June 25, 2012 Share Posted June 25, 2012 It is starting to make more sense now though. I think this may have been leaked or something and yes, now MG is screwed. May have to sign Schneider and keep Lu now.....interesting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special Ed Posted June 25, 2012 Share Posted June 25, 2012 That doesn't work both ways though, right? I hope to god you are correct in your proposal I also hope I win the lottery Both are equal in chance IMO If luongo really did say only florida, MG has ZERO barging power. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sedated Posted June 25, 2012 Share Posted June 25, 2012 I like how on one hand, when reports say Burke might offer sheet Schneider, but then people are all "Who would want to go to Toronto? He'd never sign." Acting like Schneider is too good for that, and defending him.. then on the other hand, people are like "WHY DOES LUONGO NOT GO TO TORONTO, frack HIM, SELFISH ASSHOLE." He was approached and signed like the face of the franchise of our team. He was given a contract as such. He SHOULD have all the power, if they respect him at all. If they want to trade him away, the whole reason players ask for NTC and stuff like that, is so they can't end up somewhere they don't want to be. And I will say what I had said before. If Luongo is not seeming to fetch good returns because of only select teams offering, then trade Schneider. Because losing Luongo for crap is worse than losing Schneider for a valuable asset. The media has made it out to be that there's no other way or thing to do than trade Luongo though, so there's really not much good that can come out of this. The best thing is, if the Canucks don't win a cup in a few years, Schneider is likely going to be the new scapegoat. It would be hilarious if Schneider saw the circus going on in the media with this right now, then ends up not signing here before July 1st and taking a walk somewhere else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pears Posted June 25, 2012 Share Posted June 25, 2012 Two of Bjugstad, Gudbranson, Versteeg, or a first please. So 1) Luongo for Bjugstad + Gurbranson (not likely) 2) Luongo for Bjugstad + Versteeg 3) Luongo for Gudbranson + Versteeg 4) Luongo for Bjugstad +1st 5) Luongo for Gudbranson + 1st 6) Luongo for Versteeg + 1st All options seem really appetizing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldnews Posted June 25, 2012 Share Posted June 25, 2012 If Luongo had said this, it really shouldn't be that difficult to come up with a quote. Otherwise it is just story-making speculation and game playing, which is what rumour-mongers live on - even the 'best' of sources are prone to speculating freely - really, there is not much credibility in the vast majority of what is said, unless it comes from the horse's mouth - and that is seldom the case, so I'm not about to get too concerned about it, and besides, I'd be happy if Luongo snubbed Toronto and Chicago and I'll live with that Gillis can work out with Florida, which regardless of whether the market is only one team, will be a few solid pieces. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canucksbiggestfan Posted June 25, 2012 Share Posted June 25, 2012 I would be content if MG pulled off this deal... Van: Luongo, Raymond, Parent, 4th Round Pick Fla: Versteeg, Goc, Ellerby/Kulikov, Garrison Rights, 3rd Round Pick Luongo = Versteeg, Ellerby/Kulikov Raymond, Parent = Goc, 3rd Round Pick 4th Round Pick = Garrison Rights Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hky14 Posted June 25, 2012 Share Posted June 25, 2012 I like how on one hand, when reports say Burke might offer sheet Schneider, but then people are all "Who would want to go to Toronto? He'd never sign." Acting like Schneider is too good for that, and defending him.. then on the other hand, people are like "WHY DOES LUONGO NOT GO TO TORONTO, frack HIM, SELFISH ASSHOLE." He was approached and signed like the face of the franchise of our team. He was given a contract as such. He SHOULD have all the power, if they respect him at all. If they want to trade him away, the whole reason players ask for NTC and stuff like that, is so they can't end up somewhere they don't want to be. And I will say what I had said before. If Luongo is not seeming to fetch good returns because of only select teams offering, then trade Schneider. Because losing Luongo for crap is worse than losing Schneider for a valuable asset. The media has made it out to be that there's no other way or thing to do than trade Luongo though, so there's really not much good that can come out of this. The best thing is, if the Canucks don't win a cup in a few years, Schneider is likely going to be the new scapegoat. It would be hilarious if Schneider saw the circus going on in the media with this right now, then ends up not signing here before July 1st and taking a walk somewhere else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merci Posted June 25, 2012 Share Posted June 25, 2012 Gudbranson+Garrison's rights Luongo, Raymond's rights, Schroeder If Tallon wants to play hard ball I say do it, Gudbranson and Garrison would make for. Hamhuis Bieksa Ballard Garrison Edler Gudbranson/Tanev/Salo Absolutely unstoppable D core. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GHL Posted June 25, 2012 Share Posted June 25, 2012 No one stabbed luongo in the back. They played a good goalie to change things up for three games. Its lu that took that to mean he was no longer #1 and went to the media, Lu set all this in motion and if reports are true on his selective trade requests he is doing his best to screw the management that gave him that great contract that will stick with him and pay him big $ no matter what. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prana16 Posted June 25, 2012 Share Posted June 25, 2012 Umm, you can't suspend a player for exercising his right to not be traded. It's in his freaking contract to have this right. The NHLPA would have a field day if this happened. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prana16 Posted June 25, 2012 Share Posted June 25, 2012 You guys are blowing this waaaaay out of proportion. He "went to the media"? He was attacked by the vile Vancouver media and he said he'd agree to a trade if it helped the team. You... Do realize that any trade involving Luongo hampers the team? Because Luongo would be going the other way? You... Get that right? Why is it that the fans and media kill their goalie? We're talking Luongo here; the man who single handedly stopped hearts for a few seconds when he was traded here. And if the Canucks are modeled on the Detroit blueprint, ought we not keep such players as Luongo in the fold? Did they kick ANY player out of town? Lidstrom... How many Cups did he NOT win? How about Hasek? Did Hasek or Osgood win the Cup every year? How about Brodeur? Roy? About Roy, how did kicking him out of town work out for Montreal? Roy went on to win Cuos with another team. You silly, unapreciative, uneducated, disgusting f*ucking fans you all are. Hopefully the whole f*ucking team moves out of town one day. THEN You'll really have something to bitch about. F*ckwads. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noheart Posted June 25, 2012 Share Posted June 25, 2012 If I'm MG and luongo will only go Florida. And unless the offer is good enough... I try to keep luongo in Vancouver and offer Schneider for a talented young forward. As much as a love C.S. it's about what's best for the team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caboose Posted June 25, 2012 Share Posted June 25, 2012 Two of Bjugstad, Gudbranson, Versteeg, or a first please. So 1) Luongo for Bjugstad + Gurbranson (not likely) 2) Luongo for Bjugstad + Versteeg 3) Luongo for Gudbranson + Versteeg 4) Luongo for Bjugstad +1st 5) Luongo for Gudbranson + 1st 6) Luongo for Versteeg + 1st All options seem really appetizing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S.Mouse! Posted June 25, 2012 Share Posted June 25, 2012 The people making proposals are missing the point... If he is only willing to be traded to 1 team, and the GM of that team knows it, we will not be getting anything of value back. Talon can keep offering bad players and bad contracts until MG feels the pressure enough to make a bad move. Or we will be stuck with Lu, and be forced to move Schneider instead. I just hope something is worked out before someone offers Schneider a huge offer-sheet that screws up our cap situation if we match. Then we would be in a position of weakness again since other GMs would know we need to move Schneider and the low-ball offers will continue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prana16 Posted June 25, 2012 Share Posted June 25, 2012 The people making proposals are missing the point... If he is only willing to be traded to 1 team, and the GM of that team knows it, we will not be getting anything of value back. Talon can keep offering bad players and bad contracts until MG feels the pressure enough to make a bad move. Or we will be stuck with Lu, and be forced to move Schneider instead. I just hope something is worked out before someone offers Schneider a huge offer-sheet that screws up our cap situation if we match. Then we would be in a position of weakness again since other GMs would know we need to move Schneider and the low-ball offers will continue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DooBie604 Posted June 25, 2012 Share Posted June 25, 2012 This whole Loungo saga and the way the fans have treated a player that has done so much for this franchise has made me even more embarrassed to be a fan of this beautiful city's team. It's one thing to criticize but to go out and purposely try to humiliate someone and just spew hatred makes it no surprise that our city is known for stupid riots and ignorant fans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GHL Posted June 25, 2012 Share Posted June 25, 2012 I think you need to reread what I wrote.. or quote some one else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westcoast Posted June 25, 2012 Share Posted June 25, 2012 All parties are best served envoking the right to remain silent until it takes it's course.imho Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special Ed Posted June 25, 2012 Share Posted June 25, 2012 MG and AV are as afraid of the meltdowns as Luongo is Cory is a Meltdown medicine and vaccination, he is also immune to meltdowns If it wasn't for multiple meltdowns of the past, we would have 3 cups and this thread wouldn't be here. Dave Tallon knows this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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