Hafizzle Posted June 28, 2012 Share Posted June 28, 2012 OK. I see what you're saying. So essentailly MG took a number and worked backward rather than saying "I'll give you x amount/year". So how in the world are there any high quality assents ever signed for less than a dozen years? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Vintage Canuck- Posted June 28, 2012 Share Posted June 28, 2012 Darren Dreger reports Panthers are front-runners for Luongo, Maple Leafs not engaged in discussions with Canucks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-NucksFan Posted June 28, 2012 Share Posted June 28, 2012 Darren Dreger reports Panthers are front-runners for Luongo, Maple Leafs not engaged in discussions with Canucks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Kassassin Train Posted June 28, 2012 Share Posted June 28, 2012 Luongo + Garrisson Rights + 1st and Mid-Level Prospect? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB007 Posted June 28, 2012 Share Posted June 28, 2012 Darren Dreger reports Panthers are front-runners for Luongo, Maple Leafs not engaged in discussions with Canucks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeNiro Posted June 28, 2012 Share Posted June 28, 2012 I would be happy with just Bjugstad, that's how good I think he's gonna be. He's basically a Toews and Kesler hybrid from everything I've seen and read. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vansicle Posted June 28, 2012 Share Posted June 28, 2012 Well with the salary cap in place, giving out long term contracts is the only way you can sign a top player to a manageable cap hit. Look at the Crosby deal that just went down today. 104 mil over 12 years which works out to a 8.7 cap hit or something like that. Kovy same thing. It's a crapty situation because most GM's know that chances are that the player won't be as good near the end of the contract but it's the only thing they can do if they want to stay competitive. Vancouver would never have been able to put together the team that we had if Lu's cap hit was 7 mil. Same with Pittsburgh if Crosby and Malkin's cap hit was 10 mil and that's what it would pretty much cost if you wanted a shorter term. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB007 Posted June 28, 2012 Share Posted June 28, 2012 Tallon knows their time is coming so they are stocking up on veterans too. Lu would be their first step. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vansicle Posted June 28, 2012 Share Posted June 28, 2012 and why you think Luongo could agree to such a contract? The whole idea of existing front-loaded contract was to give Luongo money he deserves AND to lower cap hit. Any different contract meant either less money to Lu or higher cap hit for the team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vansicle Posted June 28, 2012 Share Posted June 28, 2012 Well with the salary cap in place, giving out long term contracts is the only way you can sign a top player to a manageable cap hit. Look at the Crosby deal that just went down today. 104 mil over 12 years which works out to a 8.7 cap hit or something like that. Kovy same thing. It's a crapty situation because most GM's know that chances are that the player won't be as good near the end of the contract but it's the only thing they can do if they want to stay competitive. Vancouver would never have been able to put together the team that we had if Lu's cap hit was 7 mil. Same with Pittsburgh if Crosby and Malkin's cap hit was 10 mil and that's what it would pretty much cost if you wanted a shorter term. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niklas Jensen Posted June 28, 2012 Share Posted June 28, 2012 Matthias and Gudbranson please...we'll throw in Schroeder to sweeten the deal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RonnieColeman Posted June 28, 2012 Share Posted June 28, 2012 I would be happy with just Bjugstad, that's how good I think he's gonna be. He's basically a Toews and Kesler hybrid from everything I've seen and read. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tangelos Posted June 28, 2012 Share Posted June 28, 2012 ....or you could look at it this way: Your best forwards play around 20 minutes per game. That's equal to around 1600 minutes per season. Your goaltender plays 60 minutes per game. (sometimes 65) In a true platoon situation, each goaltender would be giving his team 2400 minutes. So which makes more sense: A somewhat effective less than 1600 minutes from a third line forward, or 2400 very effective minutes from a top level goaltender? On top of that, in the second scenario, you haven't dumped a valuable asset for basically nothing... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tangelos Posted June 28, 2012 Share Posted June 28, 2012 I think I have to agree with you, wouldn't mind Lu for Bjugstad straight up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafizzle Posted June 28, 2012 Share Posted June 28, 2012 I would be happy with just Bjugstad, that's how good I think he's gonna be. He's basically a Toews and Kesler hybrid from everything I've seen and read. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canucks_fo_life Posted June 28, 2012 Share Posted June 28, 2012 Real curious what this counter offer is Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M A K A V E L I 96 Posted June 28, 2012 Share Posted June 28, 2012 Luongo + Ballard to FLA for picks and prospects. They reach the cap floor and we get some cap space to go after top tier players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Italia2006 Posted June 28, 2012 Share Posted June 28, 2012 The signing and contract of Quick and now Price must help out on Luongo's value. They're getting paid over a million more than Luongo. Luongo is a great deal for 5 million. I'm pretty sure a deal will get done with Florida. Jovanovski says Luongo is a top 5 goalie with years left at elite level. Tell me they don't want him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Brahma Bull Posted June 28, 2012 Share Posted June 28, 2012 I would be happy with just Bjugstad, that's how good I think he's gonna be. He's basically a Toews and Kesler hybrid from everything I've seen and read. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldnews Posted June 28, 2012 Share Posted June 28, 2012 Darren Dreger reports Panthers are front-runners for Luongo, Maple Leafs not engaged in discussions with Canucks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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