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#4051 Ghostsof1915

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Posted 15 July 2012 - 07:44 PM

Gillis found out that Doan's favorite meal is tuna fish sandwiches.

This is all part of the plan. Don't worry people, Mike's got this.


That is until some creepy clown comes around and mucks up your plan?



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Posted 15 July 2012 - 07:54 PM

It has come to the attention of the Management that SOME people are jumping into this discussion at page 113, or 128 etc., having avoided reading the whole chain from Page 1.

It should be noted that this behavior will not be tolerated and anyone found posting having NOT read the all 135 pages (and counting) will be tied up and placed in a closet for the duration of this trade (or until the next ice age whichever comes first) and will be denied ALL access to further Luongo rumors!

Please be Informed posters and be sure and read ALL pages of this column (and keep crib notes) before posting within this column.

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P.S. It should be further noted that this Entire column will be available this winter on Paperback from Harlequin Romance Novels, Titled: The Ballad of Trading Luongo, an Ode to the Fans Ongoing Misery and Heartbreak!

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Posted 15 July 2012 - 08:02 PM

It has come to the attention of the Management that SOME people are jumping into this discussion at page 113, or 128 etc., having avoided reading the whole chain from Page 1.

It should be noted that this behavior will not be tolerated and anyone found posting having NOT read the all 135 pages (and counting) will be tied up and placed in a closet for the duration of this trade (or until the next ice age whichever comes first) and will be denied ALL access to further Luongo rumors!

Please be Informed posters and be sure and read ALL pages of this column (and keep crib notes) before posting within this column.

Sincerely,
Concerned League of Insiders, Trade Orchestration, Re-thinkers and Irreverent Speculators (Clitoris for short)

P.S. It should be further noted that this Entire column will be available this winter on Paperback from Harlequin Romance Novels, Titled: The Ballad of Trading Luongo, an Ode to the Fans Ongoing Misery and Heartbreak!

:shock: I haven't read all 135 pages!

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Posted 15 July 2012 - 08:31 PM

Trade Luongo to Florida for Weiss, Theodore, and a 2nd

Sign Doan to a 3 year 16.5 million dollar contract

Trade Raymond for a 3rd round pick

My Custom Lineup
FORWARDS
Daniel Sedin ($6.100m) / Henrik Sedin ($6.100m) / Shane Doan ($5.500m)
David Booth ($4.250m) / Ryan Kesler ($5.000m) / Chris Higgins ($1.900m)
Alexandre Burrows ($2.000m) / Stephen Weiss ($3.100m) / Jannik Hansen ($1.350m)
Maxim Lapierre ($1.000m) / Manny Malhotra ($2.500m) / Zack Kassian ($0.870m)
Aaron Volpatti ($0.600m) /
DEFENSEMEN
Dan Hamhuis ($4.500m) / Kevin Bieksa ($4.600m)
Alexander Edler ($3.250m) / Jason Garrison ($4.600m)
Keith Ballard ($4.200m) / Chris Tanev ($0.900m)
Andrew Alberts ($1.225m) / Kevin Connauton ($0.900m)
GOALTENDERS
Cory Schneider ($4.000m)
Jose Theodore ($1.500m)
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CAPGEEK.COM TOTALS (follow @capgeek on Twitter)
(these totals are compiled without the bonus cushion)
SALARY CAP: $70,200,000; CAP PAYROLL: $69,945,000; BONUSES: $185,000
CAP SPACE (23-man roster): $255,000

Almost a third of our team would be ex-panthers, but it would be a very good lineup.

Why Burrows on the 3rd line? Is Higgins more of a natural rightie, because Burrows has looked pretty good on the right wing with the twins. Besides, we know Burrows and Kesler have had chemistry success in the past.

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Posted 15 July 2012 - 08:44 PM

Why Burrows on the 3rd line? Is Higgins more of a natural rightie, because Burrows has looked pretty good on the right wing with the twins. Besides, we know Burrows and Kesler have had chemistry success in the past.


I just think Higgins has better chemistry with Kesler and Booth. I think he brings just as much as Burrows would on the second line. Plus Burrows has shown he can score playing pretty much anywhere.

And it's all about spreading out the scoring. We would basically have two second lines that could score or play a shutdown role depending on who's going. And when you look at cup winning teams, most of them have players on their third lines that are too good to be there.

Of course they could be switched back and forth too. This is just one of many possible line combos. My only intention was to show that a lineup like this is possible with a few really good moves.

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Posted 16 July 2012 - 12:16 AM

Interesting article on the Hockeyy Insiderr

http://blogs.edmonto...-needs-to-know/

Stop posting this guy's garbage, you are only making him stronger.

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#4057 stuckinontario

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Posted 16 July 2012 - 01:59 AM

Was gonna post this when I first saw it 'bout 4 days ago, but I guess it fits as a follow-up to that last post - funny article, and particularly spot-on when it comes to our Twatter friend HockeyyInsiderr:

Being a Professional Dumbass on Twitter Is Easy

By Sam Page
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I have a theory about what causes 90 percent of sports fans’ worst behavior: It’s not born from obsession but a need to fulfill an insider fantasy.
In an age in which not just fantasy sports, but fantasy sports analysis and fantasy sports supplies are cottage industries, the fundamental delusion of the fan is control. The belief that the average fan is basically part of team management underlies a lot of suspect (but increasingly normalized) behavior: Closely watching high school athletes who aren’t your son (“scouting”), simulating 20 seasons in Madden (“projecting”), and calling into sports radio shows with desperate pleas directed at free agent athletes (“recruiting”).
And with social media actually reducing barriers to access, now exists the worst manifestation of this mania yet: Twitter rumor-mongering. A stable of legitimate reporters provide this service, like Jon Heyman for baseball and Adam Schefter for football. But when fans cross the line between eagerly awaiting breaking news and needing to feel like they’ve got Billy Beane’s number in their cell phone, the market demands a particular type of snake oil salesman.
Enter the “Twitter Insiders.” Anonymous users with official-sounding handles and spooky avatars are proving with their follower counts just how desperately fans want to know about trades a few minutes before news actually breaks.
I parodied the phenomenon in February, right before the NHL trading deadline. And while my post was a minor hit among freaky hockey sickos, the mongering has only gotten worse, with fake insiders proving as popular as ever during this hockey offseason.
At the heart of hockey’s fake rumor mill sits Eklund, the guy behind HockeyBuzz.com, who codified many genre conventions, including, but not limited to, anonymity, hyperbole, and secretive language. Eklund, real name Dwayne Klessel, who lists his phone number in his Twitter bio, has long since passed from nuisance to novelty. That his throw-crap-at-the-wall approach is less successful than random chance has long been obvious. And Eklund’s self-deprecating tone and mostly genial demeanor has aided his transformation from villain into farce.
Still, HockeyBuzz.com boasts 30 million unique visitors per month. Even faced with the low odds of anything Eklund writing coming to pass, people flock to his, hoping to find a small nugget of inside information in a pile of crap. After all, Eklund’s information is sometimes good, and he denies making stuff up, but he doesn’t have any filter, and never seems to bother to confirm anything the way fusty, factual old media journalists would.
Now, however, a more insidious type of Twitter insider is on the rise, one that cannot be easily dismissed as unfiltered and unverified. These prattlers, who probably are lying and were the true targets of my parody, exploit Twitter’s features to create an illusion of credibility. They bury their mistakes under the sheer volume of tweets, and magnify their successes with retweets. They also block anyone who challenges them.
Basically, these accounts are like the worst kind of “psychic” hustler, only for hockey fans, and instead of “the cards” it’s “my sources.” Their tweets are cold readings, purposely vague and all-encompassing, allowing the fan to imagine the best possible future for their team, while also giving the rumormonger an excuse for when everything they said inevitably goes belly up.
Most notable and brazen among them is @hockeyyinsiderr, who, just a week after getting everything wrong about Zach Parise’s negotiations, still commands a huge and loyal audience. The night before Parise and Ryan Suter signed with the Minnesota Wild, the Insiderr claimed that there was a 5 percent chance the two would go to Minnesota.
Then, right before their signings, Mr. Insider changed his tune in a tweet meant to cover his ass, one claiming Parise and Suter might sign with the Wild. Afterwards, he created an entire story about Parise reneging badly on a commitment to Pittsburg. The way he told it, Sidney Crosby was practically calling for a Canadian invasion of Minnesota. TSN actual-insider Darren Dreger was so offended by this narrative, he took time to call him out, citing Penguins’ GM Ray Shero as his source.
In what turned into an embarrassing internet squabble, HockeyyInsiderr told Dreger to un-block him and apologize, threatening to leak a compromising photo of the Canadian sportscaster at work (which was of course acquired from an anonymous source). The “incriminating” photo wasn’t even PhotoShopped; the Insider taped a printout to a computer monitor and took a picture. He’s daring you to unfollow him now.
But you shouldn’t get mad at the Insiderr, a guy who cons people so masterfully, who grows an audience in the face of seemingly career-destroying missteps. He proves you can just BS your way through everything, and fools enough people enough of the time to now be working to form a team of “expert rumor breakers” that will be selected from among his followers. Yep, now all you have to do to be an expert is follow a guy who says he is one.

Link: https://twitter.com/...124499103629313
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Posted 16 July 2012 - 05:51 AM

Anywhere? Try calling from mclease lake, try calling from the itchy mountains try calling from dease lake..... there's a big world outside of Vancouver


However there is a thing called a satellite phone, perhaps that's what u meant?

You can get what's called a "World Phone", and you can literally call from anywhere.

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Posted 16 July 2012 - 06:53 AM

Was gonna post this when I first saw it 'bout 4 days ago, but I guess it fits as a follow-up to that last post - funny article, and particularly spot-on when it comes to our Twatter friend HockeyyInsiderr:

    Being a Professional Dumbass on Twitter Is Easy

By Sam Page
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I have a theory about what causes 90 percent of sports fans’ worst behavior: It’s not born from obsession but a need to fulfill an insider fantasy.
In an age in which not just fantasy sports, but fantasy sports analysis and fantasy sports supplies are cottage industries, the fundamental delusion of the fan is control. The belief that the average fan is basically part of team management underlies a lot of suspect (but increasingly normalized) behavior: Closely watching high school athletes who aren’t your son (“scouting”), simulating 20 seasons in Madden (“projecting”), and calling into sports radio shows with desperate pleas directed at free agent athletes (“recruiting”).
And with social media actually reducing barriers to access, now exists the worst manifestation of this mania yet: Twitter rumor-mongering. A stable of legitimate reporters provide this service, like Jon Heyman for baseball and Adam Schefter for football. But when fans cross the line between eagerly awaiting breaking news and needing to feel like they’ve got Billy Beane’s number in their cell phone, the market demands a particular type of snake oil salesman.
Enter the “Twitter Insiders.” Anonymous users with official-sounding handles and spooky avatars are proving with their follower counts just how desperately fans want to know about trades a few minutes before news actually breaks.
I parodied the phenomenon in February, right before the NHL trading deadline. And while my post was a minor hit among freaky hockey sickos, the mongering has only gotten worse, with fake insiders proving as popular as ever during this hockey offseason.
At the heart of hockey’s fake rumor mill sits Eklund, the guy behind HockeyBuzz.com, who codified many genre conventions, including, but not limited to, anonymity, hyperbole, and secretive language. Eklund, real name Dwayne Klessel, who lists his phone number in his Twitter bio, has long since passed from nuisance to novelty. That his throw-crap-at-the-wall approach is less successful than random chance has long been obvious. And Eklund’s self-deprecating tone and mostly genial demeanor has aided his transformation from villain into farce.
Still, HockeyBuzz.com boasts 30 million unique visitors per month. Even faced with the low odds of anything Eklund writing coming to pass, people flock to his, hoping to find a small nugget of inside information in a pile of crap. After all, Eklund’s information is sometimes good, and he denies making stuff up, but he doesn’t have any filter, and never seems to bother to confirm anything the way fusty, factual old media journalists would.
Now, however, a more insidious type of Twitter insider is on the rise, one that cannot be easily dismissed as unfiltered and unverified. These prattlers, who probably are lying and were the true targets of my parody, exploit Twitter’s features to create an illusion of credibility. They bury their mistakes under the sheer volume of tweets, and magnify their successes with retweets. They also block anyone who challenges them.
Basically, these accounts are like the worst kind of “psychic” hustler, only for hockey fans, and instead of “the cards” it’s “my sources.” Their tweets are cold readings, purposely vague and all-encompassing, allowing the fan to imagine the best possible future for their team, while also giving the rumormonger an excuse for when everything they said inevitably goes belly up.
Most notable and brazen among them is @hockeyyinsiderr, who, just a week after getting everything wrong about Zach Parise’s negotiations, still commands a huge and loyal audience. The night before Parise and Ryan Suter signed with the Minnesota Wild, the Insiderr claimed that there was a 5 percent chance the two would go to Minnesota.
Then, right before their signings, Mr. Insider changed his tune in a tweet meant to cover his ass, one claiming Parise and Suter might sign with the Wild. Afterwards, he created an entire story about Parise reneging badly on a commitment to Pittsburg. The way he told it, Sidney Crosby was practically calling for a Canadian invasion of Minnesota. TSN actual-insider Darren Dreger was so offended by this narrative, he took time to call him out, citing Penguins’ GM Ray Shero as his source.
In what turned into an embarrassing internet squabble, HockeyyInsiderr told Dreger to un-block him and apologize, threatening to leak a compromising photo of the Canadian sportscaster at work (which was of course acquired from an anonymous source). The “incriminating” photo wasn’t even PhotoShopped; the Insider taped a printout to a computer monitor and took a picture. He’s daring you to unfollow him now.
But you shouldn’t get mad at the Insiderr, a guy who cons people so masterfully, who grows an audience in the face of seemingly career-destroying missteps. He proves you can just BS your way through everything, and fools enough people enough of the time to now be working to form a team of “expert rumor breakers” that will be selected from among his followers. Yep, now all you have to do to be an expert is follow a guy who says he is one.

Link: https://twitter.com/...124499103629313


I'd rather read incorrect and fabricated tweets that follow the irrelevant dinosaurs on TSN & Sportsnet.

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Posted 16 July 2012 - 07:35 AM

Remember when we traded for Roberto..does anyone remember if there were any rumours or even any hint that something that would happen?

or was it more outta the blue like the jeff carter and mike richards trades?
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Posted 16 July 2012 - 07:40 AM

bump

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Posted 16 July 2012 - 08:08 AM

Bumping a pinned thread....nice.

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Posted 16 July 2012 - 08:31 AM

And the fact that he's starting his own website with 30 bloggers for different teams and his own "dreamteam" of insiders annoys me a lot. Half that guy's tweets are now about his website.


Here's a thought, don't follow his tweets then

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Posted 16 July 2012 - 08:43 AM

Remember when we traded for Roberto..does anyone remember if there were any rumours or even any hint that something that would happen?

or was it more outta the blue like the jeff carter and mike richards trades?

Not really out of the blue. The Canucks obviously wanted to improve their goaltending. When asked who he thought the best goaltender to build your team around was, Nonis answered without hesitation, "Luongo." Meanwhile, relations between Lu and Flordida (Keenan) were deteriorating. It looked like they weren't going to be able to sign their RFA to a longterm deal. There weren't a lot of rumors, I think, but there was lots of speculation as Floridas problem could clearly solve our problem, which it eventually did.
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Posted 16 July 2012 - 08:47 AM

Bumping a pinned thread....nice.

on my phone... lay off mini-mod

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Posted 16 July 2012 - 08:51 AM

Mobile Bump.

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Posted 16 July 2012 - 08:52 AM

Gee. Not missing out on much.

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Posted 16 July 2012 - 08:57 AM

Not really out of the blue. The Canucks obviously wanted to improve their goaltending. When asked who he thought the best goaltender to build your team around was, Nonis answered without hesitation, "Luongo." Meanwhile, relations between Lu and Flordida (Keenan) were deteriorating. It looked like they weren't going to be able to sign their RFA to a longterm deal. There weren't a lot of rumors, I think, but there was lots of speculation as Floridas problem could clearly solve our problem, which it eventually did.


lol ok thats basically what I already knew. Its funny because now they might possibly fix our problem again by taking him back :s
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Posted 16 July 2012 - 09:01 AM

on my phone... lay off mini-mod


A thread bump usually means you post in the thread to get it back to the top of the page. So for a pinned thread it wouldn't make sense, hence my comment. Not trying to be a mini-mod.

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Posted 16 July 2012 - 09:04 AM

Problem solved with a 'last page' button.

Where is it, CDC?

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Posted 16 July 2012 - 09:14 AM

Problem solved with a 'last page' button.

Where is it, CDC?

would be awesome instead of posting to see last page or flipping through pages manually

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Posted 16 July 2012 - 10:13 AM

switch to the full site problem solved i never had issues going to the last page on my sony xperia arc

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Posted 16 July 2012 - 10:22 AM

I'd rather read incorrect and fabricated tweets that follow the irrelevant dinosaurs on TSN & Sportsnet.

Good for you! Keep drinking the Kool-Aid and don't ask questions, nothing to see here, folks...
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Posted 16 July 2012 - 10:36 AM

Remember when we traded for Roberto..does anyone remember if there were any rumours or even any hint that something that would happen?

or was it more outta the blue like the jeff carter and mike richards trades?


The Jeff Carter trade wasn't out of the blue. There was speculation and rumours for weeks leading up to it. The Mike Richards trade shocked the hockey world

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Posted 16 July 2012 - 11:16 AM

Now correct if i am wrong but if we want a big top 6 forward that can score and has been proven in the playoffs what was wrong with the supposed Lecavalier deal that was in place. Last I checked I think he fills that void. Granted he has a high price tag but it sounds like Doans number is going to be right in the same ball park. If Florida and Toronto dont want to offer up what we want maybe see if the Tampa bay is still willing to part with Lecavalier. I think that could help our void at Center.

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Posted 16 July 2012 - 12:02 PM

Now correct if i am wrong but if we want a big top 6 forward that can score and has been proven in the playoffs what was wrong with the supposed Lecavalier deal that was in place. Last I checked I think he fills that void. Granted he has a high price tag but it sounds like Doans number is going to be right in the same ball park. If Florida and Toronto dont want to offer up what we want maybe see if the Tampa bay is still willing to part with Lecavalier. I think that could help our void at Center.


The fact that he's 32, past his peak, and has a cap-hit of 7,727,273 all the way through 2020 for a start

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Posted 16 July 2012 - 12:52 PM

The fact that he's 32, past his peak, and has a cap-hit of 7,727,273 all the way through 2020 for a start


I'm not really down for taking on that contract. But I'd bet he could live up to it with move to a hockey crazy market. My guess is the cup win and too much time in florida slowed him down..

If it was a 5yr contract and he hadn't won yet I'd be into getting him.

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Posted 16 July 2012 - 01:02 PM

Will Luongo end up in Chicago? http://bit.ly/OBCyj7

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Posted 16 July 2012 - 01:13 PM

I hope this ends quick with a good return for Luongo!
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Posted 16 July 2012 - 02:47 PM

I hope this ends quick with a good return for Luongo!

What does luongo's return have anything to do with Jonathan Quick?

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