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#1 Frigid

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Posted 23 June 2012 - 03:15 PM

Since Schenn has been trade and he was rumoured to be trade bait in a potential Luongo deal, perhaps JVR was not intended to be kept on the Leafs roster and will be flipped?

To Toronto:

Roberto Luongo
Mason Raymond
Keith Ballard
3rd round pick 2013

To Vancouver:

James Van Riemsdyk
Cody Franson
Matthew Lombardi

JVR's contract is quite substanial (4.25 mil$ over the next 6 years) so a trade in terms of salary, the trade off it fairly even. We take Lombardi to even out salary and get a centreman to help out our roster while Kesler is out. Franson is an RFA and can be exchanged for Raymond who is also an RFA and Raymond with still fill Toronto's loss of a winger (JVR). Ballard can help round out Toronto's defensive depth since Schenn is gone. Since Toronto is still taking on about an extra $2 mil, the draft pick is added to compensate for that since they don't really have any other players to shed.

Thoughts?

Edited by Frigid, 23 June 2012 - 03:16 PM.


#2 Smashian Kassian

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Posted 23 June 2012 - 03:17 PM

Haha it wont happen but I would do it in a heartbeat.

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Posted 23 June 2012 - 03:19 PM

just makes no sense.......but franson is a good subsitute for schenn
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Posted 23 June 2012 - 03:27 PM

Maybe the Oilers didn't plan to keep Yakupov. They will trade him to us for Luongo.

OMG be realistic, Burke wanted size, skills and a top 6 forward. Thats exactly what he got with JVR

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Posted 23 June 2012 - 03:29 PM

Maybe the Oilers didn't plan to keep Yakupov. They will trade him to us for Luongo.

OMG be realistic, Burke wanted size, skills and a top 6 forward. Thats exactly what he got with JVR


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Posted 23 June 2012 - 04:30 PM

This won't work out at all. It's a very unfair trade for Toronto. We're giving them nothing while we reap the benefits of the trade. If it's ever going to work, each side should have a fair compensation for players lost in the trade. Try this one.

To Leafs:
Luongo
Raymond
2nd round pick [2013]

To Canucks:
Cody Franson
4th round pick [2013]

Edit: We may be overpaying just a little bit but it could ensure that Toronto is happy with the results.

Edited by Mandango, 23 June 2012 - 05:01 PM.


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Posted 23 June 2012 - 04:38 PM

This won't work out at all. It's a very unfair trade for Toronto. We're giving them nothing while we reap the benefits of the trade.
If it's ever going to work, each side should have a fair compensation for players lost in the trade. Try this one.

To Leafs:
Luongo
Raymond
2nd round pick [2013]

To Canucks:
Cody Franson
4th round pick [2013]

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Posted 23 June 2012 - 04:41 PM

This won't work out at all. It's a very unfair trade for Toronto. We're giving them nothing while we reap the benefits of the trade.
If it's ever going to work, each side should have a fair compensation for players lost in the trade. Try this one.

To Leafs:
Luongo
Raymond
2nd round pick [2013]

To Canucks:
Cody Franson
4th round pick [2013]


While I agree TO gets ripped off in this scenario, your comment of then getting nothing needs to be a little less broad, by picking up Luo they would get pretty close to a guaranteed definite berth in the SC playoffs which in and of itself is something

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Posted 23 June 2012 - 04:51 PM

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Instead of just trying to up your post count, try giving some real criticism. Useless and unnecessary comments have no place on CDC, let alone any forum.

While I agree TO gets ripped off in this scenario, your comment of then getting nothing needs to be a little less broad, by picking up Luo they would get pretty close to a guaranteed definite berth in the SC playoffs which in and of itself is something


Completely agree with you. The main thing is that Toronto is getting ripped off in this trade and that's what I'm trying to say.

Edited by Mandango, 23 June 2012 - 04:54 PM.


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Posted 23 June 2012 - 04:55 PM

This won't work out at all. It's a very unfair trade for Toronto. We're giving them nothing while we reap the benefits of the trade.
If it's ever going to work, each side should have a fair compensation for players lost in the trade. Try this one.

To Leafs:
Luongo
Raymond
2nd round pick [2013]

To Canucks:
Cody Franson
4th round pick [2013]


I Could see rights to Raymond maybe being worth a 4th in 2013 but Loungo and a 2nd 2013 is worth much more than just Franson.

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Posted 23 June 2012 - 05:00 PM

I Could see rights to Raymond maybe being worth a 4th in 2013 but Loungo and a 2nd 2013 is worth much more than just Franson.


Completely agree. I was actually looking for a deal that might favor Toronto just a little bit so that we can ensure that trade goes through. I would want to shop Luongo as quickly as possible to sign Schneider.

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Posted 23 June 2012 - 05:18 PM

Completely agree. I was actually looking for a deal that might favor Toronto just a little bit so that we can ensure that trade goes through. I would want to shop Luongo as quickly as possible to sign Schneider.


I actually feel that Gillis should sign Schneider first and then deal Loungo and have been wondering if that might be one of the reasons the Loungo deal has not happened yet. It would suck if Loungo gets moved and Schneider can only be signed to a 1 year deal.

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Posted 23 June 2012 - 05:52 PM

This won't work out at all. It's a very unfair trade for Toronto. We're giving them nothing while we reap the benefits of the trade. If it's ever going to work, each side should have a fair compensation for players lost in the trade. Try this one.

To Leafs:
Luongo
Raymond
2nd round pick [2013]

To Canucks:
Cody Franson
4th round pick [2013]

Edit: We may be overpaying just a little bit but it could ensure that Toronto is happy with the results.


I don't care if Toronto is happy or not, as long as the Canucks are happy, and with that deal the Canucks are sad.
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Posted 23 June 2012 - 08:30 PM

I actually feel that Gillis should sign Schneider first and then deal Loungo and have been wondering if that might be one of the reasons the Loungo deal has not happened yet. It would suck if Loungo gets moved and Schneider can only be signed to a 1 year deal.


I read somewhere that Schneider hasn't signed because he's waiting for Luongo to be moved first. He wants to be sure that he will get the starting position so at this point, it's all on Gillis to make the first move.

I don't care if Toronto is happy or not, as long as the Canucks are happy, and with that deal the Canucks are sad.


The Canucks get rid of a huge contract in Luongo, allowing room for Schneider, and package in a top 6 forward to compensate for the Leaf's need of offense. In return we receive a strong physical on-ice presence, 6'5 213lbs hometown (he's from BC) and potential 30 point defenseman. What more could we want to be paired with Edler? This is an excellent deal, far better than the Schenn one.

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Posted 23 June 2012 - 09:03 PM

A superstar top 10 goalie for a defender scratched 25 times last season, you know what the Canucks should add in a second I'm sorry sir but you are a silly goose
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Posted 23 June 2012 - 09:03 PM

A superstar top 10 goalie for a defender scratched 25 times last season, you know what the Canucks should add in a second I'm sorry sir but you are a silly goose
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Posted 23 June 2012 - 09:17 PM

The Canucks get rid of a huge contract in Luongo, allowing room for Schneider, and package in a top 6 forward to compensate for the Leaf's need of offense. In return we receive a strong physical on-ice presence, 6'5 213lbs hometown (he's from BC) and potential 30 point defenseman. What more could we want to be paired with Edler? This is an excellent deal, far better than the Schenn one.


The thing is that it doesn't matter if were getting rid of his contract because we want to make a hockey trade. That trade is completely under valuing Luongo.

Also why are we giving them a higher pick and getting a lower pick in return, that part makes absolutely no sense.

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Posted 23 June 2012 - 09:36 PM

This won't work out at all. It's a very unfair trade for Toronto. We're giving them nothing while we reap the benefits of the trade. If it's ever going to work, each side should have a fair compensation for players lost in the trade. Try this one.

To Leafs:
Luongo
Raymond
2nd round pick [2013]

To Canucks:
Cody Franson
4th round pick [2013]

Edit: We may be overpaying just a little bit but it could ensure that Toronto is happy with the results.


Just a little?

You mean alot

Luongo > Franson
2nd > 4th
Raymond > Nothing

Toronto wins in every aspect of the deal.

If MG turned down Schenn for Luongo then he definetly wont do this.

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Posted 24 June 2012 - 12:18 PM

I love all the JVR proposals after Leafs get him. Why the hell would Burke give him up?

Edited by Karlsson`s Flo, 24 June 2012 - 12:19 PM.


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Posted 24 June 2012 - 03:49 PM

At this point, it is going to be Franson and Komisarek for Luongo.

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Posted 24 June 2012 - 04:49 PM

I guess I'd do it?
Too bad it makes no sense from Torontos POV.
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Posted 01 July 2012 - 08:27 PM

since Canucks just signed Jason Garrison, and the Leafs signing McClement, i think any deal with Luongo involving the Leafs would include a third line C going Vancouver's way because the Leafs now have to many Centermen. I think Bozak would be a very good C for our third line, guy is a good defensive player and he can put up points. If we dont get a C from Toronto, i cant see us getting anything else that we need unless we put our own roster player in the deal.

I remember brian burke saying the Leafs are comfortable with Reimer...but i now think that he was trying to lure MG into lowering his standards for Loui. Because today he said one of his top 3 needs are a goalie. With Darren Dreger tweeting the devils have offered Brodeur a two year contract, i bet Brodeur will be off the market...therefore the trade market will now go up for Loui.

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Posted 02 July 2012 - 02:37 PM

i cant see the leafs flipping van riemsdyk at all.

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Posted 02 July 2012 - 02:59 PM

to TOR:
Luongo
Raymond
Sauve

to VAN:
Gardiner
1st 2013

HOW YOU LIKE THEM APPLES SCHULTZ! hahah.

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Posted 02 July 2012 - 03:23 PM

Kulemin + Kadri + Ashton

For

Luongo + Schroeder + 2nd




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