The Kassassin Train Posted June 29, 2012 Share Posted June 29, 2012 Holy Batman, I think we agreed on this matter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tortorella's Rant Posted June 29, 2012 Share Posted June 29, 2012 People upset about Schneids not taking a pay cut is ridiculous. Would you take a pay cut at your job for the sake of the company? Not a chance in hell. He's already a bargain at four million if he continues to play like he has, albeit more games this time around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nuck nit Posted June 29, 2012 Share Posted June 29, 2012 I really like Schneids and I am going to really miss Luo. Luo was the real deal,year in and year out. Good Luck,Luo.I am going to miss you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KFBR392 Posted June 29, 2012 Share Posted June 29, 2012 With all this Luongo vs Schneider talk... Is anyone else just happy to see one of our prospects turn into something so exciting? Schneider is so long in the making, and I've been hearing for years how this guy will never live up to his potential and is basically a bust because he wasn't a starter after two years. The Canucks organization has put in some serious work into this kid. It would be such a shame to ship him off just as he's about to make it all pay off. I'm a huge Luongo fan, but there's something about homegrown talent that I just can't help but love. Very excited for next season! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master Mind Posted June 29, 2012 Share Posted June 29, 2012 Again where in the book it says that every player has to take a discount. What he got was fair value and allows the Canucks to set him up for a discount on his next contract when his current contract expires. It's not that a hard concept to grasp. Do you not remember when the Canucks had to pay Luongo for 27 million with NO playoff experience? Fair value at the time. Same thing with Schneider. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canucksbiggestfan Posted June 29, 2012 Share Posted June 29, 2012 Happy for Schneider and just as happy for Luongo to get away from this predominantly classless, self-destructive fanbase. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master Mind Posted June 29, 2012 Share Posted June 29, 2012 What?! Yeah because there are teams are not willing to give up a 3rd and a 1st for Schneider especially for the asking price on him?! Thanks for the good chuckle thank God you are not MG. Give him a contract that's less....well thanks genius. You think amg didnt think about that? You really lbelieve that they came with 4 and that waa that? The Canucks probably said 3.5 for 5 years, Schneider probably said no countered with 4.5 for a longer term and Canucks and Schneider probably came upon the median which would have been 4. You see the simple logic there or was that too hard for you to comprehend? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GLASSJAW Posted June 29, 2012 Share Posted June 29, 2012 You can put that blame on the Sedins also. Why not trade them while we're at it? Where were the goals, is Luongo supposed to score now too? Also where was the Defence that let all those players just have 2 on 1's and have all those breakaways? It's always easy to blame things on the goalie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil_314 Posted June 29, 2012 Share Posted June 29, 2012 I'm so glad this signing happened; now M.G. has maximum leverage in terms of whether or not to make a move, and his hand can't be forced by offer sheets or by refusals to waive NTCs. $9M in salaries? NBD. The cap's going up to $70 (at least $68 I believe?) and teams that want QUALITY, SIGNED goalies in their prime who can win will pay to get them. Of course, if Lu doesn't want to go and another team makes an offer, I'd be happy to sell Cory if it means strength for other areas of weakness on the team. Solid move. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Kassassin Train Posted June 29, 2012 Share Posted June 29, 2012 Obviously he doesn't have to take a discount, but when all of MG's recent contracts have been at a discount, I expected the same thing to happen to Cory. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. White Posted June 29, 2012 Share Posted June 29, 2012 http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-5AF_eeLwQy4/T9O8kDeBe6I/AAAAAAAAAFM/hrboBalI8mo/s1600/mr-burns-picture.jpg Excellent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoosh Posted June 29, 2012 Share Posted June 29, 2012 I know how it works, and I think things could have gone better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Kassassin Train Posted June 29, 2012 Share Posted June 29, 2012 Just because it's a good idea to send an offer sheet, doesn't mean that GMs will do it. Look a BB, he hates offer sheets, and I can bet that he isn't the only GM that feels that way. And 3.5 is a high starting value in a negotiation. The Canucks should have started at 3 max. I know how it works, and I think things could have gone better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master Mind Posted June 29, 2012 Share Posted June 29, 2012 Has someone dropped you on your head lately? Not everyone take discounts here. Is this the place to play, the ultimate supertown & team? Gimme a break! Before you were born, players like Bure, Mogilny and Messier took huge discounts to play here, ya? And when you were still a child, a goaltender, Roberto Luongo took a major discount of a deal to get a chance to play here as well... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Kassassin Train Posted June 29, 2012 Share Posted June 29, 2012 If we sign Schultz watch him complain about that too... OMG We could have gotten Suter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master Mind Posted June 29, 2012 Share Posted June 29, 2012 Again...why?! Here let me write this in modern terms. If you are an employee at a company all your co-workers are making decent money but they took a discount in replacement to help the company to succeed. However, those employees have proven themselves and they agreed to take raise but not too much in exchange for stability and to see help the company succeed. Now if you're a guy who is getting promoted form PT to FT, you are obviously going to take whatever you can that makes sense for you financially as well as the company. Once you have worked full time for a while and you have proved to your employer that you are everything they expected you to be, you will ask for stability and wouldn't mind if your raise isn't as high proving that not only do you care about yourself but you care about the culture of the company as well. Now is that so hard to understand? The same thing happened with Luongo and if you think Luongo is getting paid 5.33 yearly you clearly don't know how the CAP works.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Copeland Posted June 29, 2012 Share Posted June 29, 2012 FINALLY!!! And I like the term, good for him but not panic-city for us lol. Love it! Been a while since we had a happy day in Van!! :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master Mind Posted June 29, 2012 Share Posted June 29, 2012 I bet you don't know even a bit... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Kassassin Train Posted June 29, 2012 Share Posted June 29, 2012 In your scenario you have the PROVEN guy getting a raise. Cory has not proven that he is capable of a full regular season yet. Is that so hard to understand? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Kassassin Train Posted June 29, 2012 Share Posted June 29, 2012 Take it easy bud, I've been a fan since the early 90's. Comparing different eras is a very weak argument. A lot has changed since the Bure days. Last I checked, every player that we signed has been at a discount price. Yes, signing Lu at 5.33 is a better deal than Cory at 4. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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