mabbott Posted June 30, 2012 Share Posted June 30, 2012 we just let one walk..................as in Aaron Rome Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VanIsleNuckFan Posted June 30, 2012 Share Posted June 30, 2012 I can't believe a few people voted "not one standout" when a team out there would love to have the defence we have right now. Yeah, we might need a signing this off-season but if you look at the names in our D, other teams would drool to have them all on the same team. This planet is whacked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
six-0h-four- Posted June 30, 2012 Author Share Posted June 30, 2012 surprise, surprise, the canucks are losers why the hell would he sign with the canucks when the fans treat super stars like crap... and being a hockey fan i would rather play against the canucks then with them its much funner to upset the fans.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lidstrom Posted June 30, 2012 Share Posted June 30, 2012 Everybody take a step take a step back, Garrison doesn't put the canucks over the top. We're not necessarily better on defence with the line-up. We've had the luxury of having quality d-men on our bottom line when were completely healthly. We have to have a objective view on this. I've seen wayyyyyyyyyyyyyy to many over-paid bust UFA's (see: Bouwmeester, Komisarek, Martin, Michalek, etc.) I have faith in Gillis and support his moves. He wants to win as bad as we do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewSedinTwin Posted June 30, 2012 Share Posted June 30, 2012 I don't want to see Edler, Bieksa or Hamhuis leave. I would like to see us pick up a free agent like Suter or Garrison, if we can't pick up a free agent, then we should look at trading guys like Ballard, Rome, Alberts, and Connauton (I'd like to keep Tanev if possible) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VanGnome Posted June 30, 2012 Share Posted June 30, 2012 I don't want to see Edler, Bieksa or Hamhuis leave. I would like to see us pick up a free agent like Suter or Garrison, if we can't pick up a free agent, then we should look at trading guys like Ballard, Rome, Alberts, and Connauton (I'd like to keep Tanev if possible) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Canuck Posted June 30, 2012 Share Posted June 30, 2012 Teams don't trade away #1 or 2 D-men unless those players ask to be traded. The way the Canucks payroll is structured I can't see a Suter or Weber ever playing here. I love to see a shutdown D-man come here, one with size to clear the front of the net when needed. Bryan Allen would be an upgrade over Rome, Matt Carle might be another target, not a shutdown guy but can put up points & better than Schultz in the short term. We need a 3rd line centre isn't that why we got Phalsson? For heavens sake no Marco Sturm type signings PLEASE. Seems Gillis is looking for a diamond in the rough & all he's finding if fools gold. Think it might be time to be a bit bold, the best before date is approaching we're only a few pieces removed but it is significant. The Sedins can't carry the load, they need consistent secondary help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
six-0h-four- Posted June 30, 2012 Author Share Posted June 30, 2012 Teams don't trade away #1 or 2 D-men unless those players ask to be traded. The way the Canucks payroll is structured I can't see a Suter or Weber ever playing here. I love to see a shutdown D-man come here, one with size to clear the front of the net when needed. Bryan Allen would be an upgrade over Rome, Matt Carle might be another target, not a shutdown guy but can put up points & better than Schultz in the short term. We need a 3rd line centre isn't that why we got Phalsson? For heavens sake no Marco Sturm type signings PLEASE. Seems Gillis is looking for a diamond in the rough & all he's finding if fools gold. Think it might be time to be a bit bold, the best before date is approaching we're only a few pieces removed but it is significant. The Sedins can't carry the load, they need consistent secondary help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Light Racicot Posted June 30, 2012 Share Posted June 30, 2012 The team still has an Ehrhoff-sized gap to fill on defense Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Canuck Posted June 30, 2012 Share Posted June 30, 2012 /user/63817-six-0h-four/">six-0h-four- True but I'm not sure if guys have places they really want to go, sure a few do but I think for most it's strictly business. Is Gillis really going to bring in an 8 Mil guy? Same goes for Suter. Honestly I really thought Schultz was going to come here,being from Kelowna. So Weber being from Sicamous seems to mean little in the big picture. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canuck Surfer Posted June 30, 2012 Share Posted June 30, 2012 Until you get the right guy, I believe we would be better to get the BPA moneyball style. Then you have stability to get the guy playing from strength, when he's available! To me the moneyball signing is Sheldon Souray. He could, with our PP, conceivably score more than Garrison easily, but also add the 238 lb nasty, willing to throw em down, body that we need without breaking the bank. And he would be good enough (see his role in Dallas) that Gillis could perhaps score our guy in a luongo trade without worrying abut fielding a competitive team. Another under the radar veteran guy who could help us, at the defensive end, is Scott Hannan. And Carle is more interesting to me than Garrison. Carle, Garrison and Suter are the only FA's available tomorrow that u would consider an upgrade to our D, and really only Suter is considered a possible #1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canucklehead420 Posted June 30, 2012 Share Posted June 30, 2012 i think we'll land garrison for Bieksa type money. although a good signing hes not the bonafide norris calibre defenseman we desperately need. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ButterBean Posted June 30, 2012 Share Posted June 30, 2012 Sure, historically, cup winners have had a #1 defenseman. But that can be said for almost every other aspect of the game too. Cup winners have had effective 4th lines who hit, forechecked, and were responsible defensively. Same goes for the 3rd line but more offense. Offensive production from the top 2 lines. Hot goaltender. Luck with injuries. Point is you need to be well rounded everywhere to win a Stanley Cup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bossram Posted June 30, 2012 Share Posted June 30, 2012 Not a big deal. I'm not too upset we missed out on Schultz. I'd rather have some experienced defencemen. Hopefully Gillis can land Garrison for a decent price. Schultz took the easy way out. Just like how he used a loophole to get what he wants, he's going to Edmonton so the big minutes and opportunities will be handed to him on a silver platter. All these young guys are good, but unless they get some real players to lead them they'll still be stuck at the bottom. Anyway I hope we can get Garrison. Our defence will look something like this: Hamhuis - Bieksa Edler - Garrison Ballard - Salo Alberts/Tanev I think Salo will be re-signed. I think Salo and Tanev will work out some sort of rotation to keep Salo healthy and fresh. I'd rather trade Ballard and try to find someone cheaper. I'd like to go after Doug Murray for the bottom pair. I think we need some physicality in our backend and someone who can physically handle big forwards. But if we land Garrison and re-sign Salo we should be good for now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Canuck Posted June 30, 2012 Share Posted June 30, 2012 think we need to draft a Norris type D-man... unless we can trade for one with Lou I can't see us getting a stud type guy... Souray.....he might be interesting but a gamble & a bit of a liability Carle can be much better.... hell he was a +30 something with Pronger at his side Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stormchaser Posted July 1, 2012 Share Posted July 1, 2012 schultz is definitely a huge pu**y anyways. uses a loophole so he can select what ever team he wants and picks the oilers lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Provost Posted July 1, 2012 Share Posted July 1, 2012 Offer sheet Weber... why not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Provost Posted July 1, 2012 Share Posted July 1, 2012 Teams don't trade away #1 or 2 D-men unless those players ask to be traded. The way the Canucks payroll is structured I can't see a Suter or Weber ever playing here. I love to see a shutdown D-man come here, one with size to clear the front of the net when needed. Bryan Allen would be an upgrade over Rome, Matt Carle might be another target, not a shutdown guy but can put up points & better than Schultz in the short term. We need a 3rd line centre isn't that why we got Phalsson? For heavens sake no Marco Sturm type signings PLEASE. Seems Gillis is looking for a diamond in the rough & all he's finding if fools gold. Think it might be time to be a bit bold, the best before date is approaching we're only a few pieces removed but it is significant. The Sedins can't carry the load, they need consistent secondary help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B_a_M Posted July 1, 2012 Share Posted July 1, 2012 They made it to the finals but they didn't win the cup. History proves that teams that win the Cup have a Norris calibre player on their team. 2007: Anaheim - Pronger, Neidermayer 2008: Detroit - Lidstrom, Rafalski 2009: Pittsburgh - Letang 2010: Chicago - Keith 2011: Boston - Chara 2012: LA - Doughty Notice the trend? That's 6 years in a row. Defence wins championships. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DownUndaCanuck Posted July 1, 2012 Share Posted July 1, 2012 All of them have had their bright spots and dark shades over the playoffs lately. The reason we went so far in the playoffs 2 years ago was because different defencemen stood up at different times during the playoffs. Edler was our best D-man in the 1st round, Hamhuis too. All of them played well against Nashville, but they didn't have much of a hard task. Ehrhoff in particular was great. Bieksa and Salo really shined against San Jose, especially Salo. Then Edler broke his hand and played like crap, Hamhuis was injured, Salo was fatigued and Ehrhoff was banged up against Boston which is why they all stunk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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