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#1 keslerforthecup

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Posted 30 June 2012 - 04:07 PM

Lets start off with a playmaker for the 2nd line, I strongly believe the team needs one because of lack of scoring on the second line and the rotating of players. David Booth and Kesler do not pass, if we get a playmaker, then there stats will definetley improve.

Or take the approach of putting Burrows on the second line which may work, taking into the consideration of the chemistry between Burrows and Kesler. Therefore signing Parise or Semin which Gillis won't do because he doesn't make bold moves.

Then we need to get a 3rd line centre. With Sammy Pahlsson leaving for modo, I don't think Lapierre should fill that position.

I then believe we should get possilby 1 or 2 defencemen or maybe try to get a top defender which is very unlikely.

Finally, we need a backup just in case Eddie Lack doesn't do well in camp.

We can dump space by possibly waiving or trading Maholtra and Alberts, then trading Luongo to possibly fill one of the teams needs.

Excited for tommorow, what things to guys think we need?

Edited by keslerforthecup, 30 June 2012 - 04:08 PM.


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Posted 30 June 2012 - 04:08 PM

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Posted 30 June 2012 - 04:15 PM

playmaker Doan, Parenteua or Whitney D Allen please this guy is a solid d-man and he blocks shot, third line center I think Lappy can handle the pressure and i disagree with you MG does make bold moves he's not gonna make a stupid move like signing Semin who won't even show up for half the season and then the playoffs!

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Posted 30 June 2012 - 04:26 PM

2nd line winger:Peter Mueller
Bottom 6:Moss/Hudler and Gaustad
Defence:Garrison + Allen

Dream player:Shane Doan
Possible substitute: Semin (Doubt it)
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Posted 30 June 2012 - 04:40 PM

Free agency will not be as wild as the friday night of the draft but it will be interesting to see where Suter and Parise end up. Seems like Detroit, Minny and Pittsburgh are the most likely destinations for those two.

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Posted 30 June 2012 - 04:40 PM

Danny - Henrik - Burrows
Doan - Kesler - Booth
Hansen - Malholtra - Jensen
Kassian/Ebbett - Lappy - Weise/Bitz

Dream Team of forwards :D
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Posted 30 June 2012 - 04:47 PM

I think we might end up with Mueller, I wouldnt be apposed to that, he's still young and I dont think we have seen the best out of him yet.

I think we should look at getting someone else for the 3rd line, as Lappy would be very effective on the 4th if we could add some wingers (Moss, Armstrong) Here's my Free agent Wishlists:

Top 6 Foward
1. Parise
2. Doan
3. Mueller
4. Parenteau
5. Whitney

Defensemen
1. Suter
2. Garrison
3. Carle
4. Salvador
5. Roszival

I hope the 3rd line center comes through trade as I dont want Gaustad, and I dont see that many other options.

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Posted 30 June 2012 - 04:49 PM

we need a second line RW that is a pure playmaker (P.A Parenteau)

and also a top 2 D man(Unkown)

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Posted 30 June 2012 - 04:54 PM

There isn't many forwards available. Team is going to have to trade for one.

Defense should be priority. Get that veteran top 4 defense man that the team has been desperately needing. Then, it's a Kesler replacement who can temporarily play as a 2nd line center, and drop or move to the wing when Kesler is back. Need proven players if they wanna win.

Pareanteau is not the answer. He will bust here.

Hope for a Luongo for Kulemin +

+ Maybe a Garrison signing.

Also would be nice to move Ballard, since he'll be in the dog house anyways. Re-Sign Salo as a bottom pair/extra. Tanev should be a regular.

Sedin Sedin Burrows
Booth Kesler XXXX
Hansen Malholtra Higgins
Kassian Lappiere Raymond
Weise

Edler - XXXX
Hamhuis - Bieksa
Tanev - Salo

XXXX

Schneider
Luongo/Lack/XXXX

XXXX - Acquisitions

Edited by Rey, 30 June 2012 - 05:15 PM.


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Posted 30 June 2012 - 04:56 PM

Shane Doan. Heart of a canuck.


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Posted 30 June 2012 - 04:58 PM

OP's giving up on Manny after coming back from a career threatening injury? Let him regain his form. He's a perfect fit for the bottom 6 when hes playing his game

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Posted 30 June 2012 - 05:08 PM

my top 9 forwards

sedin-sedin-doan (adds that gritty element the sedins are missing)
booth-kesler-parenteau (sp?) (this line finally gets the play maker they need in order to get those 65-85 point seasons)
hansen-higgins-burrows ( if you are wondering why i put higgins as center is if i recall correctly he was traded to us as a center so i put him in the center position, but asides from that this line has everything, grit, speed, can defend against other teams top lines, and it can also score goals)

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Posted 30 June 2012 - 05:08 PM

Needs:

1. Top-four defenseman (Garrison, Carle, Allen, etc) to play with Edler
2. Top-six playmaker (Mueller, Semin, Hudler) to play with Kesler and Booth
3. 3rd line center

In that order.
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Posted 30 June 2012 - 05:29 PM

I was hoping for gaustad but nashville just signed him to 4 year extension

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Posted 30 June 2012 - 05:29 PM

There isn't many forwards available. Team is going to have to trade for one.

Defense should be priority. Get that veteran top 4 defense man that the team has been desperately needing. Then, it's a Kesler replacement who can temporarily play as a 2nd line center, and drop or move to the wing when Kesler is back. Need proven players if they wanna win.

Pareanteau is not the answer. He will bust here.

Hope for a Luongo for Kulemin +

+ Maybe a Garrison signing.

Also would be nice to move Ballard, since he'll be in the dog house anyways. Re-Sign Salo as a bottom pair/extra. Tanev should be a regular.

Sedin Sedin Burrows
Booth Kesler XXXX
Hansen Malholtra Higgins
Kassian Lappiere Raymond
Weise

Edler - XXXX
Hamhuis - Bieksa
Tanev - Salo

XXXX

Schneider
Luongo/Lack/XXXX

XXXX - Acquisitions


Oh crap...I forgot we still have raymond....I don't see him fitting in the top six...he needs to be moved......I'd love to have doan for three years....he's only 34 and has lots to give...the kind of heart and character ON the ice we need.

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Posted 30 June 2012 - 05:40 PM

Brad Boyes for the top 6, Raymond and Booth can slot in and out.

Booth - Boyes - Higgins, until Kes gets back.

As for D, I say we re-sign Salo and sign Matt Carle to play along side Edler.

If Carle is not available, I'd say we make a move for Garrison. Penner would be suitable as well if Boyes is not in play.

Doan would be nice, the full package, but I don't in all seriousness see him leaving Phoenix. :huh:

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Posted 30 June 2012 - 05:58 PM

Defencemen in order: Suter,Carle,Garrison,Allen. Carle over Garrison because simply Garrison feels a little bit like a gamble after only 1 good season

Forwards in order: Doan, Whitney, Parise. I think Doan and Whitney would be real great fits on this team. Doan is a power-forward that we really lack, think he would suit on either our 1st or 2nd line. Whitney is a great playmaker that could work well with Kesler and Booth. Parise is obviously the best forward out there, would be a dream if he came, but i think teams will overpay a lot for him.

Wouldn't be too surprised if Gillis goes a little bit off the radar though.

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Posted 30 June 2012 - 06:31 PM

Jensen literally might make it. He lit it up in the AHL and he's only getting stronger and better this offseason, he's big, has really high hockey IQ, etc.

Kassian cant be ruled out for a bigger role next year either,.

It would look like currently Doan is signing in MTL, although he would be #1 #1 #1 choice here too.

Whitney maybe for a year would be key, but he may go back to the Canes to give the Staal brothers a winger to play with.

I think Mueller would be a great UFA. He's at a 'low' in value, which Gillis typically goes for in his 'reclaimation/buy low-sell high' projects. He's a playmaker first, and he's got size if not extremely physical. To top it off he's a right hander and can finish, but as I said already he's a playmaker first.

Parenteau is probably gonna go to Ottawa they'll throw the most money at him.
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Posted 30 June 2012 - 06:50 PM

Sedins - Doan
Booth - Kesler - mueller
Burrows - Higgins - Hansen
Lapierre - manny - kassian

Hamhuis - bieksa
Edler - garrison
Ballard - tanev - salo

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Posted 30 June 2012 - 06:52 PM

Danny - Henrik - Burrows
Doan - Kesler - Booth
Hansen - Malholtra - Jensen
Kassian/Ebbett - Lappy - Weise/Bitz

Dream Team of forwards :D


Ebbet and Bitz weren't qualified, if I'm not mistaken. Which is a mistake with Ebbet IMO.
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Posted 30 June 2012 - 06:52 PM

In terms of priority we need:

Top-4 defenceman > 2nd or 3rd line center > Depth defenceman > Playmaking winger > Backup goalie

1) Garrison / Matt Carle / Suter / Kubina
2) Jason Arnott / Langkow / Adam Burish / Hecht / Erik Christiensen
3) Brookbank / Jurcina / Bryan Allen / Vandemeer / Carkner
4) Whitney / Parenteau / Steve Sullivan / Semin
5) Hedberg

If everything goes to plan we get 1 or 2 of these needs and our lineup looks like this:

Sedin - Sedin - Burrows
Booth - Kesler - Higgins
Raymond - Arnott - Hansen
Lapierre - Mahotra - Kassian

Hamhuis - Bieksa
Edler - Garrison
Salo - Allen

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Posted 30 June 2012 - 07:36 PM

Why are people talking about Semin anytime someone says playmaking winger? You know who Alex Semin is right?
The twins will get traded for this pick. You can quote me .

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Posted 30 June 2012 - 07:48 PM

OP's giving up on Manny after coming back from a career threatening injury? Let him regain his form. He's a perfect fit for the bottom 6 when hes playing his game


I dont want to be harsh to manny, he was one of my favorite guys before the injury, but you basically said it. Career threatening, he might never be the same, he didnt look at all close to what he was, we cant bank on him and expect him fill that huge role and cross our fingers things get better.

I would also prefer to see a bigger more physical third line center on the team.

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Posted 30 June 2012 - 08:02 PM

We might get Arnott, Arnott.
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Posted 30 June 2012 - 08:09 PM

tomorrow is going to be epic!

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Posted 30 June 2012 - 10:23 PM

2nd line winger:Peter Mueller
Bottom 6:Moss/Hudler and Gaustad
Defence:Garrison + Allen

Dream player:Shane Doan
Possible substitute: Semin (Doubt it)


This guy healthy could be the steal of the day.
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Posted 30 June 2012 - 10:24 PM

Speculate all you want. Gillis has a plan set already.
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Posted 30 June 2012 - 10:50 PM

Why oh why does MG want Raymond back, why!

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Posted 30 June 2012 - 11:20 PM

I dont see us getting any big names,just doesnt ever seem to happen.

So looking through the list I 2nd take this guys:

Mike Commodore D 6'4 227lbs RHS - Might be had cheap
Adam Burish F 6'1 189lbs RHS - Can fill in at center and can add some grit to the 3rd line. Most likely picked up by some one else.


I dont see us making any big name plays Sunday,just not in the cards.

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Posted 30 June 2012 - 11:24 PM

Carle wouldnt work with Edler, both are Left handed shots. Can't split up Hamhuis/bieksa, Salo should be on the third pairing with Tanev. Apperently Garrison said it would be a "dream come true" if he signed with the Canucks, so IF he signed for a home town discount, we should. If we end up paying Garrison for more than 4.5 million i won't like it, since he has only had one good season. If not garrison, trade Loui for a LEGIT top-4 defencemen, as Allen is to slow.




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