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#61 Nas19

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Posted 01 July 2012 - 07:23 PM

I would love to get Jason Arnott. He's 6'5 220 and he put up 34 points last year, which is not too bad at all. His last salary was 2.5 per so hopefully he would take around 1.5 to 2M.

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Posted 01 July 2012 - 07:32 PM

It's a risk/reward type thing.

You could say the risk is high because of his history with injuries, but his salary would be low, so IMO the risk is medium. But the thing is, the reward could be very high.

If you're the team that jumps on this guy and he has his first full season of being healthy, it would be a very valuable signing. The guy has a ton of size and skill and is still only 24. Former 8th overall pick to boot.

Could be a prototypical Gillis signing.

As i said, i know he's a real talent, but considering we doesn't have that much cap-space left to spend atm, im not sure if i would take the Mueller risk right now at least, even if it's just 1m/1year. But if we can dump some bad contracts via trades, then maybe. Or if we trade Luongo for a good prospect with a low salary like Bjugstad.

Not sure if Gillis really would take the risk though considering how much of an injury-prone he really is. Even if it's just a "project". I think he wants safer options that has a good chance of staying healthy, something he seems to value high in players

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Posted 01 July 2012 - 07:37 PM

Mueller is very injury-prone, not a good replacement for an injured player...
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Posted 01 July 2012 - 07:38 PM

I'm sure it's just insurance in case Schroeder can't cut it.

I would imagine we try and and acquire one in the Luongo trade. Like others have said, Bjugstad would be nice.


Kids, I love how people on here keep saying Bjugstad (who is a very good prospect) but no one has seen him play no knows if he's nhl ready (not to mention he's in US College).....

Even if we get him in a trade he"ll likely finish school or need time in the minors....he's not the solution for Kesler's injury

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Posted 01 July 2012 - 07:41 PM

I am probably alone on this boat but wouldnt mind Jokinen at the right price. Pass first center that would be good fit with Kes

mentioned quite often on both sportsnet and TSN today... so it could work 50+ points x9seasons

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Posted 01 July 2012 - 07:43 PM

Kids, I love how people on here keep saying Bjugstad (who is a very good prospect) but no one has seen him play no knows if he's nhl ready (not to mention he's in US College).....

Even if we get him in a trade he"ll likely finish school or need time in the minors....he's not the solution for Kesler's injury


I would say that based on his size and skating ability alone, he's probably more ready for the NHL than Schroeder.

He built his game on being a defensive forward, so he's already got that advantage too.

Kesler spent time on the Canucks as a 20 year old, and from the sounds of it he has a similar skillset to Kesler's, but is more talented offensively.

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Posted 01 July 2012 - 07:44 PM

I think Olie would just end up on Kes's right wing, which still leaves 3rd hole. He is too offensive to stay on the 3rd line.

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Posted 01 July 2012 - 07:49 PM

I'm sure it's just insurance in case Schroeder can't cut it.

I would imagine we try and and acquire one in the Luongo trade. Like others have said, Bjugstad would be nice.


I'm thinking we fill this need in a trade with florida as well, bjugstad or mathias. Of course this means Manny is going with Lu to florida which is fine. Don't get why Canucks would be looking at free agents to fill this need, there is nothing.

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Posted 01 July 2012 - 07:52 PM

I cant really think of a good FA 3rd line center, probably via Luongo trade?


Luongo for Bjugstad and Theodore??
Bjugstad is a 6'4 Center who can fill that 3rd line center position. Maybe we could experiment with him on the 2nd line until Kesler is back. Get Bjugstad and sign Olli Jokinin for 2 mil/yr to be the 3rd line center. Then when Kesler is back:

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Jokinen-Kesler-Booth
Higgins-Bjugstad-Raymond
Kassian-Lappiere-Hansen

Hamhuis-Bieksa
Edler-Garrison
Ballard-Tanev
Alberts-Connauton

Schneider
Theodore

Not too shabby eh?

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Posted 01 July 2012 - 07:58 PM

I know I'll get flamed for this but whatever. Why don't we just re-up Reinprecht for less and give him a chance. I seem to recall he was a pretty high percentage guy for faceoffs and solid defensively. I know the stats aren't great, but with Raymond might get a few more points. (38 pts for his last full NHL season for a 3rd liner isn't too bad)

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Posted 01 July 2012 - 07:59 PM

I know I'll get flamed for this but whatever. Why don't we just re-up Reinprecht for less and give him a chance. I seem to recall he was a pretty high percentage guy for faceoffs and solid defensively. I know the stats aren't great, but with Raymond might get a few more points.


Reinprecht can't hack it in NHL anymore, thats why you will get flamed for this. Its similar to bringing redden back to the NHL. Not gonna happen.

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QUOTE (Rye and Kesler @ Jun 29 2009, 10:24 PM) Where is Celebrities? I am tryin to find it on Club vibes but i can't find it. Is it relatively new? Sounds good though we will have to check it out.

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Posted 01 July 2012 - 08:00 PM

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But i'm dating myself.


Anyway, what was the point again? Oh yeah, Malhotra. Nope, we can't pretend that eye injury had no effect on our center depth. Sorry.


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Posted 01 July 2012 - 08:03 PM

Trading Raymond for a 3rd line center may be an option. We already have enough wingers in the bottom 6, and we clearly need to upgrade a top 6 winger spot.

Might be an option, but I'm not sure who's available.

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Posted 01 July 2012 - 08:05 PM

I still think we need a legit #1 D-man..wasn't that one of our big problems in the first place?


Although i agree that we need a LEGIT #1 Defencemen, unless we trade Edler++ for one we won't get one. We definetly aren't getting Suter, and if Suter leaves Nashville Weber might not re-sign their, so maybe Edler++ for Weber? I don't want to split up bieksa and hamhuis, and hamhuis is very underrated, very good all-round defencemen.

I'm thinking for a third line center, we sign Jokinen or Arnot. For a top 6 forward(RW) to play with Kes and Booth, a pure playmaker. I thought we should have went after PA Parentaeu since he is a pure pass first type of player, but if we dont do something within the next few days i think we might just be waiting for Shane Doan.

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Posted 01 July 2012 - 08:06 PM

I would love to get Jason Arnott. He's 6'5 220 and he put up 34 points last year, which is not too bad at all. His last salary was 2.5 per so hopefully he would take around 1.5 to 2M.


His expiry date is long past due. I would have taken him when he was playing for Nashville but he wouldn't improve our team enough to justify signing him.

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Posted 01 July 2012 - 08:14 PM

Arnott. Langkow. Hudler. Jokinen. Moore. Morrison. Halpern. Wellwood.

I wonder if JA has enough left in the tank. Maybe him and JL would come as a package deal again. Or has Arnott re-signed already?
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Posted 01 July 2012 - 08:20 PM

Arnott. Langkow. Hudler. Jokinen. Moore. Morrison. Halpern. Wellwood.

I wonder if JA has enough left in the tank. Maybe him and JL would come as a package deal again. Or has Arnott re-signed already?


Nope. Nope. Nope. Yes. Yes. Nope. Nope. Nope.
Moore might fit on the 3rd line well but it will be pretty ironic since his bro was and is the number 1 public enemy in Vancouver ever since the Bertuzzi incident. Although Chokinen is not too shabby for a 3rd line center.

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QUOTE (Rye and Kesler @ Jun 29 2009, 10:24 PM) Where is Celebrities? I am tryin to find it on Club vibes but i can't find it. Is it relatively new? Sounds good though we will have to check it out.

I think Germany is the exception because they should know how to use their own balls.

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Posted 01 July 2012 - 08:25 PM

Definitely pros and cons to Dominic Moore coming here. Other than the obvious Bertuzzi connection. Awesome in TB's last playoff run. Meh in SJ's. Personal issues.
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Posted 01 July 2012 - 09:22 PM

PETER MUELLER is still out there, why not. All day and went unsigned, can clearly be had for cheap. 1 million 1 year, minimal risk.

"Money ball" type.
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Posted 01 July 2012 - 11:19 PM

Iono if anyone else has mentioned him but I would love Gilbert Brule for 1mil as a depth player, sort of what Ebbett was for us this year and what Tambillini was the year before that.
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Posted 01 July 2012 - 11:22 PM

Iono if anyone else has mentioned him but I would love Gilbert Brule for 1mil as a depth player, sort of what Ebbett was for us this year and what Tambillini was the year before that.


Regarding the 13th forward, I get the feeling that is Gillis' plan for Reinprecht.

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Posted 01 July 2012 - 11:26 PM

It's a risk/reward type thing.

You could say the risk is high because of his history with injuries, but his salary would be low, so IMO the risk is medium. But the thing is, the reward could be very high.

If you're the team that jumps on this guy and he has his first full season of being healthy, it would be a very valuable signing. The guy has a ton of size and skill and is still only 24. Former 8th overall pick to boot.

Could be a prototypical Gillis signing.


Said this in another thread. Mueller is definitely a Gillis project. The kind of guy he goes after.

If we got him and then managed to get Bjustgad, Theodore and a pick for Lu
I'd be very happy.

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Posted 01 July 2012 - 11:32 PM

With kes out thats a big hole to fill....With Garrison signed and with lu traded we'll have roughly 9 million to sign a back up and a top six forward...haha I think we all stressed out for no reason.....I feel sheepish.


since kesler is going to be out wont that also affect the cap?

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Posted 01 July 2012 - 11:32 PM

Regarding the 13th forward, I get the feeling that is Gillis' plan for Reinprecht.


so you think Gillis will resign Reinprecht for that 13th forward? Interesting, he looked pretty good for the Wolves this past year.
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Posted 01 July 2012 - 11:42 PM

Bjugstad
Mueller

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Posted 02 July 2012 - 12:12 AM

Not a very inpsiring group of center UFAs

Hank
Kesler
Lapierre
Malhotra
Schroeder
Gaunce
Mallet
(Bjugstad?)

Not that urgent to sign anyone via UFA - not many potential upgrades over giving Schroeder a shot.

I'd be interested in Jokinen at 1 or 2 years max, low cap hit (at his current or lower cap hit ), and willing to play a depth role - in other words not that likely.

As a longshot I might take a chance on Brule at half or less than his current cap hit - good depth/short term/insurance option with potential to surprise- physical guy for his size, and could be interesting to see on a line with Hansen and Higgins.

Otherwise, try to add Bjugstad in the Luongo deal, and go into the season as is. Can always make a move later if necessary, but between Lappy, Malhotra and Schroeder the Canucks bottom six will be just as well off once Kesler returns as it was going into last season with Hodgson.

I'd say use the bulk of the existing cap space to go after Doan.

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Posted 02 July 2012 - 12:23 AM

Definitely pros and cons to Dominic Moore coming here. Other than the obvious Bertuzzi connection. Awesome in TB's last playoff run. Meh in SJ's. Personal issues.

I think his wife was diagnosed with a rare form of cancer...
Anyway, I can't see him coming to Vancouver given the connection to the Bertuzzi incident.
Then again... Brad May ended up in Colorado
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Posted 02 July 2012 - 12:26 AM

Trading Raymond for a 3rd line center may be an option. We already have enough wingers in the bottom 6, and we clearly need to upgrade a top 6 winger spot.

Might be an option, but I'm not sure who's available.


Ya, Cause so many teams want Raymond
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Posted 02 July 2012 - 12:47 AM

Nick Bjugstad :bigblush:


Am I the only one totally confused as to how to pronounce this kids last name? BE-JUG-STAD? Am I close? lol
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Posted 02 July 2012 - 12:48 AM

Arnott. Langkow. Hudler. Jokinen. Moore. Morrison. Halpern. Wellwood.

I wonder if JA has enough left in the tank. Maybe him and JL would come as a package deal again. Or has Arnott re-signed already?


TOML

Definitely pros and cons to Dominic Moore coming here. Other than the obvious Bertuzzi connection. Awesome in TB's last playoff run. Meh in SJ's. Personal issues.


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