swedishdomination Posted July 3, 2012 Share Posted July 3, 2012 Also should factor in Garrison had a career year playing along side Brian Campbell who set Garrison up for a lot of goals, who will set up Garrison in Vancouver? Sedins and Edler Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WHL rocks Posted July 3, 2012 Share Posted July 3, 2012 They are both overpaid but Wideman's contract is safer by a country mile. He has a proven history and track record. You know what you are getting with Wideman. Garrison had a career year and hit the jack pot. The 6 year term on Garrison's contract is risky but he will be tradeable after 4 years of his front loaded contract. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChuckNORRIS4Cup Posted July 3, 2012 Share Posted July 3, 2012 Sedins and Edler Sedins ya maybe, but who says he plays with the Sedins on the top line or let a lone on the PP? Edler likes to shoot though, so that probably won't work out to well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
falcon45ca Posted July 3, 2012 Share Posted July 3, 2012 Wideman is a career -39. I thought the Flames already had an offensive D-man who cost them goals-against & got rid of him a few years ago...Phaneuf ring a bell? I do not see any value in a D-man who is a defensive liability. Bad signing by the Flames, Kipper is going to be busy enough as it is playing 70-75 games. He's going to get peppered next season, I'll wager he has well over 2K shots-against. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Kassassin Train Posted July 3, 2012 Share Posted July 3, 2012 I'm really surprised Garrison doesn't have a NMC or a NTC. This is a huge plus on his contract. MG got it again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keslerian one Posted July 3, 2012 Share Posted July 3, 2012 Sedins ya maybe, but who says he plays with the Sedins on the top line or let a lone on the PP? Edler likes to shoot though, so that probably won't work out to well. Edler had to play Ehrhoff's role last season - his shot total (granted he played more games) almost doubled last year. And why not, Edler has a great shot. So does Garrison. Now teams will have to respect both points. More plus for our PP. Not to mention, all we need from Garrison on the PP is to have that shot handy. He does not need to quarterback it or we don't have to rely on him. I think what he's trying to get at is that our PP improves with this guy's shot. He won't replicate his 16 goal season. But as long as our PP gets better than the 2nd half of last season, I'll be happy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keslerian one Posted July 3, 2012 Share Posted July 3, 2012 They are both overpaid but Wideman's contract is safer by a country mile. He has a proven history and track record. You know what you are getting with Wideman. Garrison had a career year and hit the jack pot. The 6 year term on Garrison's contract is risky but he will be tradeable after 4 years of his front loaded contract. So you would rather sign a guy with a proven record of defensive liability over a guy who's played well given his tough minutes against other team's top guys, because he's only been in the league for two seasons. You and Feaster think alike. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phamda Posted July 3, 2012 Share Posted July 3, 2012 Sedins ya maybe, but who says he plays with the Sedins on the top line or let a lone on the PP? Edler likes to shoot though, so that probably won't work out to well. Edler was more of a passer than a shooter or a inbetween guy until this year IMO. Since entering the league Edler has had 10, 124, 145, 161 and 121 shot seasons until his 228 shots last year. And his career high came because the Canucks forced him to shoot more because they had lost Ehrhoff's 209 shots from the previous season. Shoot-first defenders usually range around the 190+ shots a season ( P.K Subban) the inbetween guys(passers and shooters) are usually 131-189 shots a season (Ryan Suter) and pass first (Brian Campbell/Tomas Kaberle) are 130 and less a season. Edler inspite of his wild incosistencies is a pretty adaptable in every aspect Of his game. He can be the shutdown/stay athome guy on a pairing or the offensive guy, he just isnt able to do both at the same time. He can have great stick position or land big body checks. He can set-up or he can shoot. He just can't do both of anything at the same time hahaha. Hopefully with Garrison Edler can settle into a set-up guy to set the G52 bombs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D.Doughty Posted July 3, 2012 Share Posted July 3, 2012 Garrison is a bad signing. Unproven. Should not be worth 4.6 All he does is shoot pucks t'd up by mccabe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CCCP Posted July 3, 2012 Share Posted July 3, 2012 At least we have some hopes with Garrison. You never know. Could be anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Aerosex Posted July 3, 2012 Share Posted July 3, 2012 Garrison's a big defenceman who can shut people down and has some prized offensive qualities for a blue-liner (big shot and the ability to move the puck up ice). Lower cap hit. Wideman's a great offensive d-man, but with suspect, inconsistent defence and a lack of physical ability. So...YOU SHUT YOUR MOUTH, MR. WIDEMAN! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-AJ- Posted July 3, 2012 Share Posted July 3, 2012 Wideman still seems underrated to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Vintage Canuck- Posted July 3, 2012 Share Posted July 3, 2012 Garrison is a bad signing. Unproven. Should not be worth 4.6 All he does is shoot pucks t'd up by mccabe What's wrong with that? He was asking something like $6M, well I would consider that a bit too much, but getting him for like $4.6M is not bad. He is just entering into his prime. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DownUndaCanuck Posted July 3, 2012 Share Posted July 3, 2012 Depends what the team wants. We needed a physical shutdown defenceman and that's exactly what Garrison is, Calgary needs a puck-moving offensive defenceman and that's what they got in Wideman. 4.6 million is still a lot for a guy who scored 33 points, but the price for defencemen is skyrocketting these days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
surtur Posted July 3, 2012 Share Posted July 3, 2012 Sedins and Edler but obviously they don't compare to any of the Panthers.... .. oh wait . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danthecanucksfan Posted July 3, 2012 Share Posted July 3, 2012 this poll is definitely biased Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newsflash Posted July 3, 2012 Share Posted July 3, 2012 Garrison is better defensively. Wideman is more proven offensively. I'd rather have Garrison as a partner for Edler. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bossram Posted July 3, 2012 Share Posted July 3, 2012 Depends who you like better. Both contracts are ugly. Wideman is way more proven as an offensive defenseman and will get you 40 points guaranteed. Calgary knows that. He gets the big contract. However he can't play a lick of defense. Garrison is much less proven. The cap hit is a little lower but the term is scary all the same. According to Florida fans he is a solid, two-way defenseman with potenital offensive upside. He's more of what the Canucks need. Both contracts are scary. Just depends who you prefer and if the players live up to expectations: Wideman push the offense, and Garrison be a steady presence in both ends. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5minutesinthebox Posted July 3, 2012 Share Posted July 3, 2012 They are both overpaid but Wideman's contract is safer by a country mile. He has a proven history and track record. You know what you are getting with Wideman. Garrison had a career year and hit the jack pot. The 6 year term on Garrison's contract is risky but he will be tradeable after 4 years of his front loaded contract. His salary is only front loaded, his cap hit remains exactly the same through his whole contract. So he will only be attractive to teams looking to hit the cap floor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grail2011 Posted July 3, 2012 Share Posted July 3, 2012 I'm just happy we have a good Canadian boy on the team , a few more and we are going to dominate the NHL again GO CANUCKS GO!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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