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Players leaving if Canucks don't win the Cup soon

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How many teams have more underpaid players than the Canucks?

I know money isn't everything but when you're looking at Burrows making $2M in today's NHL, that's really bad.

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I think our team is consistent enough to retain it's players..only negative thing is how the media portays our team

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I doubt the Sedins are going anywhere. They've made a lot of money playing here, they have raised their kids here and they have said they would like to leave the NHL as members of the Canucks and play in Sweden before they retire.

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Samuelsson was traded and didn't have a choice and Luongo has yet to be traded (though he doesn't have much choice, either, with the fans and media constantly bashing him). Salo is a good example, though, of a player leaving to get the money and ice time he deserves over the chance to win a Stanley Cup.

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What's important is that management has established quite the competitive winning culture in Vancouver, so much so that the core won't leave unless MG admits it's time for a rebuild, and that won't be for a long time... even if they falter, they could just trade some overpriced peripheral contracts, sign good young players and keep restocking the core, or if that doesn't work, if Gaunce, Jensen, Rodin, Kassian, Schroeder, Connauton, Corrado, etc. make the team in the near future they can replenish the squad easily. Even if it IS time to blow up the core I'd think that in the near future the team could still pull out a Philly replenishing.

We have our starter (Cory OR Lu), the Top 4 on D is set for at least the next 3 seasons (excluding Edler at the moment, Hammer, Bieksa and Garrison, plus Ballard are signed); the Twins'll be here for at least two more seasons, Kes and Booth for several more as well; if Burr, Higgins, Lapierre and Edler get three-year extensions they can keep rolling and just add more skilled size alongside them.

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I wouldn't mind if the Canucks gave the Sedins a nice raise. They deserve it. Same with Burrows.

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Given Kesler's competitive nature and desire to win a cup, I wouldn't be surprised if he leaves to Detroit or some American team to win a cup.. obviously not for a couple of years though.

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o yea because there is such a different lifestyle in making 4mil a year and making 6mil a year.

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What's important is that management has established quite the competitive winning culture in Vancouver, so much so that the core won't leave unless MG admits it's time for a rebuild, and that won't be for a long time... even if they falter, they could just trade some overpriced peripheral contracts, sign good young players and keep restocking the core, or if that doesn't work, if Gaunce, Jensen, Rodin, Kassian, Schroeder, Connauton, Corrado, etc. make the team in the near future they can replenish the squad easily. Even if it IS time to blow up the core I'd think that in the near future the team could still pull out a Philly replenishing.

We have our starter (Cory OR Lu), the Top 4 on D is set for at least the next 3 seasons (excluding Edler at the moment, Hammer, Bieksa and Garrison, plus Ballard are signed); the Twins'll be here for at least two more seasons, Kes and Booth for several more as well; if Burr, Higgins, Lapierre and Edler get three-year extensions they can keep rolling and just add more skilled size alongside them.

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Wow, so many negative threads even after we score a high profile UFA. First you call Sami Salo glass man then your upset he left. Whatever....

29 teams every year have this potential problem every year, yet a lot of them manage to retain their players.

As long as the team remains ultra-competitive, then what's the issue?

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Some players might leave and pursue a Stanley Cup ring elsewhere. That's part of the business and all teams suffer/succeed and deal with these things every year. Nothing strange happening in that department.

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We give the players all they need to make a run at the cup. That's enough. Winning is up to them.

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makes me wonder why some players request a trade or leave to sign else where?

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Regardless of whether or not you guys agree with all the crazy salaries out there (Wideman, Suter, Price, Parise), I can't help but think many of the Canucks players may be starting to feel like they're leaving a lot of money on the table to stay with the organization in hopes of winning a cup.

Gillis mentions multiple times that players are taking a lower salary so that the club can have enough money to add talented pieces in order to win the Cup.

But there are no guarantees in sports and they don't win the Cup in the next year or two, players will start thinking it's better to go free agency and make crazy money.

It's probably safe to say Sedins can get more than $7M each on the open market.

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And uproot their whole families, and go to a team that doesn't have as much success in the last 5 years as the Canucks?

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How many teams have more underpaid players than the Canucks?

I know money isn't everything but when you're looking at Burrows making $2M in today's NHL, that's really bad.

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Samuelsson was traded and didn't have a choice and Luongo has yet to be traded (though he doesn't have much choice, either, with the fans and media constantly bashing him). Salo is a good example, though, of a player leaving to get the money and ice time he deserves over the chance to win a Stanley Cup.

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Lucky we're in Vancouver when you think about it?

Minny had to pay $98 mill to get Suter because it's, well, Minnesota!

But seriously, think about it. Once you get a $35 million dollar contract, its already enough to live your whole life. After that, play where you want. Sure some will go home, some will pick New York but Van and a good team is a pretty good option!

Cudo's to Parise for getting $98 mill and going home.

edit (read that as Parise and Suter are both expensive, but Parise is a at least closer to worth it).

Regardless of whether or not you guys agree with all the crazy salaries out there (Wideman, Suter, Price, Parise), I can't help but think many of the Canucks players may be starting to feel like they're leaving a lot of money on the table to stay with the organization in hopes of winning a cup.

Gillis mentions multiple times that players are taking a lower salary so that the club can have enough money to add talented pieces in order to win the Cup.

But there are no guarantees in sports and they don't win the Cup in the next year or two, players will start thinking it's better to go free agency and make crazy money.

It's probably safe to say Sedins can get more than $7M each on the open market.

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